Ugly Dish Antennas Nauseate Me
user1...@aol.com
dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
them.
Jeez............
George Grapman
I used to sell them when they were 12 feet in diameter.
Gary Heston
They have to be facing a certain direction; if that's the direction
the house faces, that's where the dish has to go. I suspect the
installation kit has a fairly short cable, which further limits the
subscribers' options.
Doing something fancy like a backyard pole-mounted installation can
be expensive, and is usually beyond the capability of the average
subscriber.
Gary
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Architectural beauty has been achieved through the ages using simple
geometric shapes such as the Golden Rectangle, circle, parabola, etc.
A hundred fifty years ago it was the fad to clutter things up with
gingerbread, which is probably the architectural equivalent of
planting flamingo statues on the front lawn.
At least the dish is based on a parabolic shape and is elegant
in its functional beauty and simplicity.
Don
ChairMan
unree...@aol.com <user1...@aol.com>spewed forth:
Well, shit then, we outta make a law against that so you don't get
nauseated.
Your life must be awfully good if that's all you got to worry about
Jeez...................
George
nothing so they usually take the simplest route. Although sometimes
siting leaves the front as the only usable.
George
> In article <1192301578....@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> unree...@aol.com <user1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>
>> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
>> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
>> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
>> them.
>
> They have to be facing a certain direction; if that's the direction
> the house faces, that's where the dish has to go. I suspect the
> installation kit has a fairly short cable, which further limits the
> subscribers' options.
>
> Doing something fancy like a backyard pole-mounted installation can
> be expensive, and is usually beyond the capability of the average
> subscriber.
>
>
> Gary
>
All of the dishes are company installed now. The installers only get a
small standardized fee to do an install. The installer has spools of
cable and just makes what is necessary up to 100'. If you want better
you pretty much have to have the site ready when the installer shows up.
I just helped a family member do that. We set a pipe in the side yard by
some shrubs and buried plastic conduit to the house.
clams casino
Isn't it the WV state flower?
George Grapman
> In article <1192301578....@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> unree...@aol.com <user1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>
>> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
>> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
>> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
>> them.
>
> They have to be facing a certain direction; if that's the direction
> the house faces, that's where the dish has to go. I suspect the
> installation kit has a fairly short cable, which further limits the
> subscribers' options.
They have to aimed at a point 22,300 miles above the equator with no
obstructions.
Anthony Matonak
> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
match the style of the house.
> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
> them.
A row of stepford homes, all alike, strikes me as one of the ugliest
things in the world. Gingerbread homes are especially ugly, only to
be surpassed by the McMansion cubes that are sprouting up like weeds
these days.
On a frugal note, as long as it doesn't contain metal, you can paint
these dishes any color or pattern you like. Perhaps a gingerbread
pattern would help it blend in. I know in some communities they force
the homeowners to build fancy 'bird houses' for these things.
Anthony
George Grapman
We had a few customers who got 12 foot mesh dishes rather than ten
foot solid for the sake of appearance. Local governments actually have
very little power to regulate dishes.
Rod Speed
> unree...@aol.com wrote:
>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>
> As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
> installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
> appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
> match the style of the house.
>
>> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
>> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
>> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
>> them.
>
> A row of stepford homes, all alike, strikes me as one of the ugliest
> things in the world. Gingerbread homes are especially ugly, only to
> be surpassed by the McMansion cubes that are sprouting up like weeds
> these days.
>
> On a frugal note, as long as it doesn't contain metal, you can paint
> these dishes any color or pattern you like.
Doesnt matter if it does contain metal. The dish itself is metal.
Siskuwihane
> Anthony Matonak <anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> > unreelis...@aol.com wrote:
> >> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
> >> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>
> > As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
> > installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
> > appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
> > match the style of the house.
>
> >> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
> >> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
> >> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
> >> them.
>
> > A row of stepford homes, all alike, strikes me as one of the ugliest
> > things in the world. Gingerbread homes are especially ugly, only to
> > be surpassed by the McMansion cubes that are sprouting up like weeds
> > these days.
>
> > On a frugal note, as long as it doesn't contain metal, you can paint
> > these dishes any color or pattern you like.
>
> Doesnt matter if it does contain metal. The dish itself is metal.
No they're not.
Siskuwihane
> No they're not
Should be, not all of them, mine is ABS.
Rod Speed
Yes they are.
Rod Speed
Which has a metallised surface. Wont work if it doesnt.
Lou
"unree...@aol.com" <user1...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Right. If you for whatever reason live in an older house, you have to claim
to the amenities and benefits of the present day. Those people should have
the heat from wood burning fireplaces, no indoor plumbing, and probably
should be reading in the evening by the light of whale oil lamps. Of
course, whale oil is a little hard to come by these days, so instead they
should just go to bed early.
Siskuwihane
Nope, they can have a mesh embedded in them. Stick to something you
know like sucking off the public teat.
Rod Speed
> Nope, they can have a mesh embedded in them.
Pity that a paint with metal in it wont be a problem with those.
Dennis
<antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>match the style of the house.
Does your house look like a trashcan?
Dennis (evil)
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Chloe
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> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:42:25 -0700, Anthony Matonak
> <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>>installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>>appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>>match the style of the house.
>
> Does your house look like a trashcan?
Or, a better question might be, where can I order an authentic Craftsman
Bungalow trashcan? How about the Queen Anne Victorian? I bet those are
pricy, what with all the fancy woodwork, turrets and all.
George Grapman
evening when I put them on the sidewalk until Monday morning.
The company here requires you to use receptacles that they provide
with the dandles that fit on their trucks.
Siskuwihane
Oh yes, what a pity. The owners of those will be offing themselves in
droves.
Tracey
"Anthony Matonak" <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> unree...@aol.com wrote:
. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
> match the style of the house.
My trash can is supposed to match the style of the house?
Rod Speed
>> This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever match the style of the house.
> My trash can is supposed to match the style of the house?
Corse it is, and we will have you publicly flogged if yours doesnt,
except for the fact that you so obviously enjoyed that the last time.
Jon v Leipzig
I agree...they Do look tacky. Maybe in the future they'll be down to 12
inches or so, in diameter.
The only dish I have is a tiny (smaller than a CD) one for my free
wireless internet from the corner flower shop. It sits on my a/c, facing
the backyard. Think I'll look for a Queen Anne style birdhouse to
enclose it. Hate to offend the squirrels in the backyard. They might
already be nauseated by this white, tacky-looking dish dish.
George Grapman
They are already down to 18-30 inches compared to 10-12 feet 20 years
ago. Back then the transmitters in the satellites were under 20 watts.
Now they are well over 100 watts.
Rod Speed
The main reason for the big drop in the size of the dishes is the band used, not the power.
joe brown
> Anthony Matonak <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> said in
> misc.consumers.frugal-living:
>
>> unree...@aol.com wrote:
>>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>>
>> As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>> installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>> appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>> match the style of the house.
>
> it. :)
>
> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
> placement.
Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot do.
George
George
> Anthony Matonak <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> said in
> misc.consumers.frugal-living:
>
>>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>> As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>> installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>> appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>> match the style of the house.
>
> it. :)
>
> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
> placement.
Similar in a lot of areas. The sad part is that it happened because of
lack of coordination. As the landlord of an apartment complex for
example you can have them put in just one dish (so you would then have a
max of two) and the tenant is connected to the shared dish for the
particular provider they choose.
joe brown
Only fools let goons like that tell them what their surroundings must look like.
George
>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at
>>>> how many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite
>>>> dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with
>>>> absolutely no consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in
>>>> SoCal no homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of
>>>> fugly dish placement.
>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot do.
>>>
>>>
>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>
> Only fools let goons like that tell them what their surroundings must look like.
>
>
Did I strike a nerve or something? How many refrigerators do you have on
your porch?
Don K
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> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
> placement.
Here in the USA, the FCC has pre-empted the authority of any
homeowners' association to impose restrictions on this type of antenna.
Don
Don K
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> joe brown wrote:
>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
>>> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
>>> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
>>> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
>>> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
>>> placement.
>>
>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot do.
> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with square wheels?
Don
hal...@aol.com
> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>
> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
> wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with square wheels?
>
> Don
dishes probably look better than the old style tv antennas commonly
seen on chimneys.
homes around here have cable interface boxes, telephone interface
boxes, gas meter, electric meter, water meter, plus the cabling to
make this all go.
newer neighborhoods have less junk attached to homes but have boxes in
yard
joe brown
Nope.
> How many refrigerators do you have on your porch?
Dont even have a porch.
George
"anti-dish" but more "stupid installations of dishes" such as where the
OP had observed the all too common scenario where there is a house with
nice architecture and the dish is just slapped onto the easiest
available surface in front of the house.
joe brown
It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of the satellite.
That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the street, the other
side of the street should mostly have the dishes on the back side of the house
if the street runs EW or close.
Siskuwihane
>
> - Show quoted text -
"Should go" doesn't mean a thing to the "tech" who comes to install
it. Whatever is easiest is where it will go.
joe brown
Pity that if its put on the side of the house with no view
of the satellite, it wont work, so he wont get paid, stupid.
Siskuwihane
No shit, who has a porch on a cardboard box?
Siskuwihane
No shit dumbass, instead of putting it on the roof near the back of
the house and out of view, he'll put it on the front porch or front of
the house and cause an eyesore. He does what is easiest for him
because he's like you, lazy and doesn't use his head.
joe brown
Pity that wont work if the house is between the dish and the satellite, fuckwit.
> He does what is easiest for him because he's like you, lazy and doesn't use his head.
Never ever did have a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Siskuwihane
No one is talking about locations that won't work, that has nothing
to do with what's being discussed, wanker.
Try and keep up when the adults are having a discussion, Rod.
. > He does what is easiest for him because he's like you, lazy and
doesn't use his head.
> Never ever did have a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.- Hide quoted text -
-
Rod changed his name because the public library kicked him off their
computer.
Rod Speed
Corse that location for the dish wont work, fuckwit.
Seerialmom
> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>
> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of
> them.
>
That's the exact reason I still have cable....those dishes are ugly.
I remember in the late 80's how excited people here were to finally be
rid of rooftop antennas once they got cable. Why satellite companies
haven't figured out a more visually pleasing way to grab signals is
beyond me.
George Grapman
as a clear view of the location in the sky where the satellite is.
I used to call the speaker phone button on the phone the cable button
as I always used it when I called them knowing that I would be on a long
hold.
In 5 years I have called my dish provider two times. Both times I got
a live person in under a minute who quickly resolved the problem.
hc23hc
What's beyond me is why people are actually paying serious money to
receive countless channels of total shite, already-subsidized by
commercials; also why the urban neighbors don't get together and split
the bill if there has to be one to begin with. The way it is not only
looks bad, it is bad.
.
.
.
George Grapman
>
> What's beyond me is why people are actually paying serious money to
> receive countless channels of total shite, already-subsidized by
> commercials; also why the urban neighbors don't get together and split
> the bill if there has to be one to begin with. The way it is not only
> looks bad, it is bad.
>
>
A small dish can only serve a limited number of televisions. You also
have legal issue if the cable crosses public streets
Rod Speed
> unreelis...@aol.com <user132...@aol.com> wrote
>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful
>> gray dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
>> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
>> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of them.
>> Jeez............
> That's the exact reason I still have cable....those dishes are ugly.
Corse those massive cables down the streets arent ugly at all, eh ?
> I remember in the late 80's how excited people here were
> to finally be rid of rooftop antennas once they got cable.
And plenty with a clue werent that impressed with the cables.
> Why satellite companies haven't figured out a more
> visually pleasing way to grab signals is beyond me.
Fresh out of magic wands to wave.
If you can work out how to do it, you'll get stinking rich. In the mean time...
Rod Speed
> hc23hc wrote:
>>
>> What's beyond me is why people are actually paying serious money to
>> receive countless channels of total shite, already-subsidized by
>> commercials; also why the urban neighbors don't get together and
>> split the bill if there has to be one to begin with. The way it is
>> not only looks bad, it is bad.
> A small dish can only serve a limited number of televisions.
Wrong.
> You also have legal issue if the cable crosses public streets
You dont need to cross public streets with one per block of houses.
Don K
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> On Oct 13, 11:52 am, "unreelis...@aol.com" <user132...@aol.com> wrote:
>> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful gray
>> dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
>>
>
> I remember in the late 80's how excited people here were to finally be
> rid of rooftop antennas once they got cable. Why satellite companies
> haven't figured out a more visually pleasing way to grab signals is
> beyond me.
It's simply a matter of how much extra you are willing to pay for your
aesthetic sensitivities.
You could buy a flat phased-array antenna right now, that could be
built imperceptibly into the siding or roof of your house that would give
the same performance as the little "ugly" dish.
I'll leave it up to you to do the tradeoff to evaluate which is uglier though,
-- the dish, or the price of the phased array.
Don
m...@privacy.net
Curious...do you have satellite TV Rod?
Or just get off air digital stations? If yes, how
many?
Siskuwihane
Are you that much of a dumbass? My dish is on the roof at the rear of
my house facing towards the front. It has an unobstructed view of the
sky. The tech wanted to put it on the very front of the house because
that would be easier for him, I said no.
You sound as dumb and lazy as the tech, both of you don't know your
ass from a dish.
Siskuwihane
> Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > unreelis...@aol.com <user132...@aol.com> wrote
> >> I can't believe how many people are sticking those godawful
> >> gray dishes on the FRONT of their otherwise beautiful homes.
> >> I was driving to work and went past a row of old beautiful well-
> >> maintained gingerbread homes from around, oh, 1890's, and lo and
> >> behold, the disgusting dish was popping out on the porch of one of them.
> >> Jeez............
> > That's the exact reason I still have cable....those dishes are ugly.
>
> Corse those massive cables down the streets arent ugly at all, eh ?
Most new developments have underground utilites, but you can't afford
anything in a place like that.
Rod Speed
> Are you that much of a dumbass?
We'll see...
> My dish is on the roof at the rear of my house facing
> towards the front. It has an unobstructed view of the sky.
Pity about the ones that are on the wall, not the roof, that wont work like that, fuckwit.
> The tech wanted to put it on the very front of the house
> because that would be easier for him, I said no.
And that wont work if its a peaked roof and the roof is between the dish and the satellite, fuckwit.
Rod Speed
>> Corse those massive cables down the streets arent ugly at all, eh ?
> Curious...do you have satellite TV Rod?
Yep.
> Or just get off air digital stations?
I dont use a dish for those, I use a small uhf yagi for those.
> If yes, how many?
4. Should be 5 but we have the bizarre situation that we are
the only town in the state that doesnt get the 5th national channel.
Rod Speed
Pity mine aint a new development, fuckwit.
Siskuwihane
No shit, welfare bluggers like you will never have anything new.
Siskuwihane
>
> - Show quoted text -
Again, slowly, has nothing to do with what I am talking about . Many
dishes can be mounted out of the way AND get as good or BETTER signal
but the techs don't give a damn about what the installation looks
like. Never was talking about putting a dish in a location with no
signal, douchebag.
No go lick your wounds, wanker.
m...@privacy.net
Why not just cancel the satellite and use the off air
HD stations only? Save some money hat way, yes?
George Grapman
First of all if you are in a poor reception area you will get5
nothing. Unlike digital where you have various levels of quality HD is
all or nothing.
Secondly over the air limits me to about 8 stations, 4 of which
specialize in dumbed down shows. I like access to the news channels and
CSPAN. Also, as a baseball fan I would miss at least half the games of
the local teams along with Sun day night baseball and Monday night football.
Of course, if all you want are the local stations that option is fine
Rod Speed
Siskuwihane <Sisku...@gmail.com> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
Rod Speed
>> m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> Yep.
>>> If yes, how many?
Because the satellite has a lot more on it.
> Save some money hat way, yes?
Yep. And that is what I currently do, mainly because I dont have enough
time to watch all the stuff worth watching on the free to air digital channels.
There is some stuff I'd like to watch on the satellite tho,
particularly the history channel and crime channel etc.
Dennis
When I started getting OTA digital channels, I cut the "local
channels" option of my satellite service, saving about US$6 per month.
AFAIC, we could drop the satellite completely, but my wife and kids
like some of the channels. I do occasionally watch a movie on the
second-tier movie channels included in our package (IFC, TMC, Encore,
etc.).
We live about 30 miles from the towers, but on a mountain top with a
pretty clear path. I use a rooftop antenna with a distribution
amplifier. We get ABC, CBS, NBC (main plus weather channel), PBS (2
channels), CW (formerly WB), FOX and a local UPN affiliate from pdx in
OTA HD digital. Another half-dozen independent SD digital
sub-channels are available, but they are things we don't watch, like
home shopping and holy-roller stuff.
The digital picture quality is normally perfect, with the rare brief
drop-out or pixelation (probably interference from a plane or
weather).
Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.
Siskuwihane
> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
> and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
Nice capitulation, wanker. Just what I expected you would do when you
realized you were backed into a corner and looking foolish.
Rod Speed
William Souden
show him to be wrong.
William Souden
Want me to repost your job history?