Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks
ComandanteBanana
on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had
there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I
was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't
have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped,
insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It
just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across
its bridges! No more biking on that road, or any other road shared
with traffic. Predators like this will always be encouraged to
mistreat cyclists due to the lack of respect given to us. No more than
blacks that were forced to ride in the back of buses...
NOTE: For the reasons given above, I do NOT recommend that you give
the finger to anyone. Not because they don't deserve it, but because
the lion is waiting for any excuse to eat the monkey. Instead, I do
recommend you give them the finger in a nice civilized way. Something
like "You can eat my banana" on the back of the T-shirt will still
give them the finger, but with vaseline, so to speak.
That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me
into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys,
gutters and sidewalks.
WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION? ;)
http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
BIKE FOR PEACE
http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace
h
"ComandanteBanana" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e09cfb36-654a-4f72...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing
> on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had
> there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I
> was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't
> have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped,
> insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It
> just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across
> its bridges!
Ummm, if the rules say no riding on the bridge, then the lanes are probably
too narrow for cars to pass you safely. Are you seriously saying that you're
being treated like a second class citizen because you're expected to follow
the rules? Do you really think that you should be allowed to ride in the
road when cars cannot safely pass? If so, then you're begging to be hit, or
you think you should be allowed to inconvenience all the people in cars who
will be unable to pass you while on the bridge. I only ride on the bike
path, since all the roads here are FAR too busy. What's wrong with you?
donquijote1954
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Sorry, but you should have asked how many lanes there were and how
much traffic there was before you sided with Goliath...
There were two lanes each way, with only light traffic. Saturday
morning, remember? It's bicycle day out there, kind of.
But, YES, I'm stating cyclists in America are second class citizens.
Worse, it's not only their dignity, but their own survival that is
threaten.
I was first TAKING THE LANE (sitting wherever I want in the bus) and
the police waved me to move over. Other cyclists were either walking
their bikes or riding them on the sidewalk, meaning they were OK in
the eyes of the police. ("Do what you want, just don't bother cars.")
Second I was blasted by another vehicle while still taking the lane.
And then the third incident came when I moved to the right, but the
guy thought I didn't have the right to be there either.
Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
AllEmailDeletedImmediately
"ComandanteBanana" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e09cfb36-654a-4f72...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
so, what do the laws in your state/county/city say? here, a cylcist has to
be as far to the rt as is safe. most places prohibit riding bikes on the
sidewalks; they're for pedestrians.
Gunner Asch
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me
>into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys,
>gutters and sidewalks.
Based on the poor manners and arrogance of many bike riders here in
California..ignoring right of way, red lights, etc etc...Id be tickled
shitless if yall ride in the alleys. That way I dont have to worry
about some spandexed shitfor brains on a $5000 hitech geewhiz bicycle
running a red light and me adding him to the collection of dead birds,
road kill, bugs and so forth already stuck in the grill of my truck.
Btw...because yall ride a bike, makes you no more and no less special
than any other form of transporation and hardly makes you immune to
the laws of physics. Not to mention the Vehicle Code.....
Gunner
"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
Gunner Asch
<nolionn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
>more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
>strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
PeteSig
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message :
> That way I dont have to worry
> about some spandexed shitfor brains on a $5000 hitech geewhiz bicycle
> running a red light and me adding him to the collection of dead birds,
> road kill, bugs and so forth already stuck in the grill of my truck.
>
> Btw...because yall ride a bike, makes you no more and no less special
> than any other form of transporation and hardly makes you immune to
> the laws of physics. Not to mention the Vehicle Code.....
Yes, the vehicle code.....
Maybe the code is different in the USA, but we have that bit about
"overtaking vehicles to keep clear"
--
Cheers
Peter
~~~ ~ _@
~~ ~ _- \,
~~ (*)/ (*)
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Can bicyclists run red lights as well in your neck of the woods, and
are immune to all rights of way and so forth?
I swear to Crom that its considered a mortal sin by bike riders to
ever come to a stop and actually put their foot to the ground.
Gunner Asch
<newsthree...@woa.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Gunner
>
>Any chance of doing the intelligent thing and plinking this guy?
If he is a bigger arsehole in his next post..Ill kill file his ass
just for you.
Hands across the water and all that eh wot?
PeteSig
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:40:23 GMT, "PeteSig" <pet...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message :
>>
>>> That way I dont have to worry
>>> about some spandexed shitfor brains on a $5000 hitech geewhiz bicycle
>>> running a red light and me adding him to the collection of dead birds,
>>> road kill, bugs and so forth already stuck in the grill of my truck.
>>>
>>> Btw...because yall ride a bike, makes you no more and no less special
>>> than any other form of transporation and hardly makes you immune to
>>> the laws of physics. Not to mention the Vehicle Code.....
>>
>>Yes, the vehicle code.....
>>
>>Maybe the code is different in the USA, but we have that bit about
>>"overtaking vehicles to keep clear"
>
> Can bicyclists run red lights as well in your neck of the woods, and
> are immune to all rights of way and so forth?
Not at all. However I was referring to the problems drivers seemed to have
with the OP in overtaking him on a bridge with 2 lanes to choose from. Over
here, overtaking vehicles are required to keep clear.
Are they not in the USA?
Fulliautomatix
> Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing
> on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had
> there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I
> was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't
> have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped,
> insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off.
Yeah I know...this happened to me when I beeped at an idiot cyclist
jamming across the road in front of me
He yelled and carried on and I had to just drive off cos I thought he
going to hit me
Myal
ya need more guns , and the stones to use them
ComandanteBanana
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
>
> >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
> >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
> >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>
> Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>
> Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle. The world seems
to know it now too. It's evident in her foreign policies that she's
getting hungrier. And it's even more clear when you live inside and
you notice that the top predators want to have an SUV to show their
power and wealth --if not to impose their might...
However dinosaurs are not forever. Actually, the hungrier they get,
the quicker they exhaust the resources, and the quicker they
disappear. But they were not known for having big brains either.
Someone may ponder about that too.
ComandanteBanana
> All three of you need to learn a lot about the real data. The fatality
> rate from bicycling is infinitesmal. There are roughly fifteen
> million miles ridden between bike fatalities. People who cycle
> regularly have been shown to live longer than typical motorists. Many
> researchers have found that the risk of cycling is less, per hour,
> than the risk of motoring, or less than the risk of walking near
> traffic.
Man, you need to go in the jungle more often... "Riding a bicycle in
peak-hour traffic is at best harrowing, and at worst downright
treacherous." The predators are everywhere... "Driving really seems to
bring out the animal in us; put an otherwise considerate and socially
adapted person in a metal cage and stick them into peak hour traffic
and you'll see them shout, swear and punish other road users in ways
they'd never dream of in a social situation." You are the bottom of
the food chain... "Size is everything; trucks intimidate 4WDs, who
muscle out compact cars. Commuting motorcyclists learn quickly to be
hyper-vigilant around anything with 4 wheels - but even their lot
can't compare to the vulnerability of bicycle riders, who travel much
slower than the speed limit, are able to own very little road space,
and typically wear only the bare minimum of protective gear." Hey, but
you may learn to use some camouflage and pretend to be from the
opposite gender... "Furthermore, Dr. Walker wore a long wig on some
trials to see if perceived gender had any effect on overtaking
distances. It certainly did - drivers gave him an average 14cm more
room." It's fascinating to know how the power games are played in the
jungle... "Perhaps, as the vehicle size data suggests, drivers simply
see overtaking a cyclist as an opportunity to stamp their road
authority on a weaker, more vulnerable competitor for tarmac space."
COMPETITION IS NOT ALLOWED, says the lion.
I'm NOT saying though that we should avoid the predators and become
couch potatoes. What I'm saying is that WE MUST GET ORGANIZED if we
want to come out from the back alleys, gutters and sidewalks.
And it's all science...
Bicycle helmets - a road safety hazard?
May 14, 2007 A British scientist has proved that wearing a bicycle
helmet actually exposes cyclists to further risk. Overtaking traffic
passed helmeted cyclists with significantly less room than unhelmeted
cyclists - and the bigger the vehicle, the closer the average passing
distance was. As civilised as we pretend to be elsewhere, we
consistently act like might is right on our roads.
Road psychology is fascinating. Driving really seems to bring out the
animal in us; put an otherwise considerate and socially adapted person
in a metal cage and stick them into peak hour traffic and you'll see
them shout, swear and punish other road users in ways they'd never
dream of in a social situation. It's mankind at its prmitive worst;
the thinnest point in our fragile veneer of civilisation, where the
law of the jungle underpins our actions and social conventions go out
the window.
Size is everything; trucks intimidate 4WDs, who muscle out compact
cars. Commuting motorcyclists learn quickly to be hyper-vigilant
around anything with 4 wheels - but even their lot can't compare to
the vulnerability of bicycle riders, who travel much slower than the
speed limit, are able to own very little road space, and typically
wear only the bare minimum of protective gear.
Riding a bicycle in peak-hour traffic is at best harrowing, and at
worst downright treacherous. While cyclists are able to feel in some
control over what's happening in front of them, car drivers in the
outermost lane tend to see them as an annoying chicane and overtake
leaving a fraction of the space they'd give another car. And research
from the University of Bath shows that where a cyclist is wearing
protective clothing, drivers are likely to cut in even closer.
Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath,
used a bicycle fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance
sensor to record data from over 2,500 overtaking motorists in
Salisbury and Bristol last September.
Dr Walker, who was struck by both a bus and a truck in the course of
the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half
the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was
struck. He found that drivers were as much as twice as likely to get
particularly close to the bicycle when he was wearing the helmet.
Across the board, drivers passed an average of 8.5 cm (3 1/3 inches)
closer with the helmet than without. The research has been accepted
for publication in the journal Accident Analysis & Prevention.
Size of vehicle also played a role: the average car passed 1.33 metres
away from the bicycle, the average white van was 10cm closer. The
average truck was a further 9cm closer, and the average bus 4cm closer
again - 23cm closer on average than a car.
Furthermore, Dr. Walker wore a long wig on some trials to see if
perceived gender had any effect on overtaking distances. It certainly
did - drivers gave him an average 14cm more room.
What are the implications? Perhaps when drivers see male riders suited
up with all the correct gear they assume they'll be more predictable
and able to get themselves out of trouble. Maybe there's some sort of
chivalrous courtesy going on when female riders are left wider gaps.
Perhaps, as the vehicle size data suggests, drivers simply see
overtaking a cyclist as an opportunity to stamp their road authority
on a weaker, more vulnerable competitor for tarmac space.
Either way, the research throws a very interesting slant on the
mandatory bicycle helmet laws found in many areas. While helmets are
clearly an advantage in a fall, there's little to suggest they do much
when the rider is hit by a car or truck. And if a helmeted cyclist
experiences around 20% more close overtaking moves than his unhelmeted
contemporary, does wearing a helmet actually make bicycle commuting
more dangerous?
A fascinating psychological study. Want to see a person's true
character? Study them alone, in a car, in traffic. And prepare to be
shocked.
Cheapo Groovo
277ae5...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, nolionn...@yahoo.com
says...
You won't be picking on bike riders much longer. When gas hits $4.50 a
gallon and the roads you drive are all foreign operated tollways!
The skyway is $3 one way, and the IN toll road costs 13 cents a mile w/o
the transponder.
ComandanteBanana
> In article <e09cfb36-654a-4f72-96fd-
> 277ae5ce6...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm not sure that's gonna squeeze the lions though. Just the wannabes
will feel the pinch.
I'll explain, the filthy rich won't care about the prices, but the
ones that today buy SUVs to look the part, will go down the drain.
Still it would be a welcome relief if 80% of the SUVs went the way of
the dinosuars...
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:p6f804hplgbt1ncfp...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:40:23 GMT, "PeteSig" <pet...@bigpond.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message :
>>>
>>>> That way I dont have to worry
>>>> about some spandexed shitfor brains on a $5000 hitech geewhiz bicycle
>>>> running a red light and me adding him to the collection of dead birds,
>>>> road kill, bugs and so forth already stuck in the grill of my truck.
>>>>
>>>> Btw...because yall ride a bike, makes you no more and no less special
>>>> than any other form of transporation and hardly makes you immune to
>>>> the laws of physics. Not to mention the Vehicle Code.....
>>>
>>>Yes, the vehicle code.....
>>>
>>>Maybe the code is different in the USA, but we have that bit about
>>>"overtaking vehicles to keep clear"
>>
>> Can bicyclists run red lights as well in your neck of the woods, and
>> are immune to all rights of way and so forth?
>
>Not at all. However I was referring to the problems drivers seemed to have
>with the OP in overtaking him on a bridge with 2 lanes to choose from. Over
>here, overtaking vehicles are required to keep clear.
>
>Are they not in the USA?
Of course.
Now about the sins of the bicyclists?
ComandanteBanana
> >> Remind me again why BRITONS should care?
> > Man, we are like brothers! Our headaches are tied up to
> > OIL, but bikes could at least be aspirine!
>
> =v= It seems you are missing the point, which has something
> to do with off-topic cross-posting. A thread about cyclists
> in America is OFF-TOPIC for uk.rec.cycling. Britons who are
> interested in this sort of thing are fully capable of choosing
> to subscribe to rec.bicycles.soc. Those who are not interested
> shouldn't be having to wade through tons of off-topic chatter.
>
> =v= The whole point of having separate newsgroups is so that
> people can stick to what they're interested in. Kindly honor
> this. None of this stuff belongs in rec.bicycles.rides, for
> example, and rec.bicycles.misc doesn't mean "crosspost anything
> and everything to this list." The purpose of *.misc newsgroups
> is for things not covered by other newsgroups.
>
> =v= Massive cross-posting is annoying and people respond by
> tuning out. It's kind of exactly the opposite of getting the
> message out to more people.
> <_Jym_>
Well, my arithmetic knowledge lets me know that if you publish in 5
groups, you have 5 times more chance to reach to out people.
Particularly when THE TOPIC IS TRULY UNIVERSAL. On the other hand,
when I turn on the radio I hear news I don't care about, like when
Bush says we are making progress in Iraq or that we need more research
into alternative transportation, as if bikes didn't exist.
Let those who don't want to listen to turn out. We will ALL be victims
of this jungle sooner or later.
donquijote1954
Suzy, regrettably I don't live anywhere close to those places where
bicycles are OK, so I must be happy to do turn to my stationary bike,
and get my workout indoors...
But have you heard of Global Warming or the War in Iraq being
connected to what we drive? Should I also shot off the news from the
outside world?
Hey, I may as well go to church and pray that Armageddon is coming
soon... ;)
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
drive.
On the other hand..its bad kharma to leave a bike rider a red smear on
the roadway because the spandex clad dipshit decided that he is above
all traffic laws and the laws of physics dont apply to the big assed
trucks he cuts in front of. Much like the rainbow stickered idjits in
tiny cars who do the same.
You can be right..you may have that 5 second edge in right of
way...but all too often they are dead...and right when they swing out
in front of an overtaking vehicle from behind a row of parked cars and
get launched into the ditch.
my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
roadway, and some yutz on a bike deciding he is immune to becoming a
street pizza.
Fred Clydesdale
ComandanteBanana <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Furthermore, Dr. Walker wore a long wig on some trials to see if
> perceived gender had any effect on overtaking distances. It certainly
> did - drivers gave him an average 14cm more room.
although we must recognize the possibility that this only proves
that people will go out of their way to avoid a transvestite in an
ill-fitting wig.
Gunner Asch
And this has what to do with assholes on bikes thinking they can
survive an encounter with a motor vehicle?
Gunner Asch
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>A fascinating psychological study. Want to see a person's true
>character? Study them alone, in a car, in traffic. And prepare to be
>shocked.
>
>http://www.gizmag.com/go/7255/
Ayup..booger picking goes way way up.
Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:54 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
>
> > <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
> > >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
> > >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>
> > Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>
> > Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
>
> Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
>
> I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
> Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle.
You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
bicycling. I'd
be happy to look it up in my own copy if you could provide book,
chapter
and verse.
Cindy Hamilton
ComandanteBanana
> In article <fe2ee7f2-e37c-43a5-9511-9be8fc683...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Furthermore, Dr. Walker wore a long wig on some trials to see if
> > perceived gender had any effect on overtaking distances. It certainly
> > did - drivers gave him an average 14cm more room.
>
> although we must recognize the possibility that this only proves
> that people will go out of their way to avoid a transvestite in an
> ill-fitting wig.
Is that because people avoid transvestites?
If it was sexy ladies I bet they would to get closer to pinch their
ass.
ComandanteBanana
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:21:31 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>
>
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 14, 9:54 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
>
> >> <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
> >> >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
> >> >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>
> >> Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>
> >> Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
>
> >Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
>
> >I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
> >Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle. The world seems
> >to know it now too. It's evident in her foreign policies that she's
> >getting hungrier. And it's even more clear when you live inside and
> >you notice that the top predators want to have an SUV to show their
> >power and wealth --if not to impose their might...
>
> >However dinosaurs are not forever. Actually, the hungrier they get,
> >the quicker they exhaust the resources, and the quicker they
> >disappear. But they were not known for having big brains either.
>
> >Someone may ponder about that too.
>
> And this has what to do with assholes on bikes thinking they can
> survive an encounter with a motor vehicle?
This is a METAPHOR. You know, like all this carnage on our roads is
related to another metaphor, the original sin... Yep, if Eve hadn't
eaten the forbidden fruit, we would all be friendly and be vegetarian.
Well, I still prefer my own metaphors...
THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE
Once upon a time, in the deep jungle, lived a Lion and a Monkey... One
day the Monkey, tired of the Lion always taking the LION'S SHARE, and
seeing that such injustice represented a danger to all, demanded
JUSTICE... The Lion, yawning and stretching, said, "You would have to
have paws and sharp teeth..." Then the Monkey, who was very clever,
devised a plan: He would go to the costume store, and look like a
lion...
When the HUNGRY LION saw him, noticing that the new lion wasn't a
match for him, and fearing COMPETITION, killed him on the spot --
before the indifferent look of the little animals of the jungle... And
that's how the Law of the Jungle was re-established one more time...
(NOTE: Other monkeys survived him...)
ComandanteBanana
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's evident enough... HE RODE A DONKEY.
You get the point? He chose the most humble mode of transportation
around, saying like a bike today.
You must learn to read into all those metaphors, you know.
ComandanteBanana
> Gunner
>
> "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
> would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
> methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
> power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
> problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
> they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
> wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
> want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
> Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
> rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
> complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
> that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
> correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
> competing factions of Islamic
> fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
> forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Am I suppose to read that diatribe every time? Why don't you say
something shorter like, "I'm all for the Law of the Jungle"? Or
"Forget about civilized behavior and embrace the caveman within"?
That's what you propose, right?
ComandanteBanana
> I've ridden your "jungle" since I was in my 20s, many decades ago.
> Unlike you, I've never needed to whine about how terrible the world
> is. Unlike you, I've had no trouble dealing with traffic. Unlike
> you, I've taken the time to look for actual data on bicycling's level
> of danger. And in doing so, I found that despite the prevalence of
> "Danger! Danger!" worriers, cycling is an _extremely_ safe activity.
>
> I've commuted by bike since 1977. I've cycled in hundreds of cities,
> and in peak rush hour in many of them. I've ridden in at least eight
> countries. I've done many self-supported tours, up to 4000 miles.
> I've ridden for nearly 40 years. In all that time, my only on-road
> injury was one skinned knee. Off road, add one incident where I
> scraped my hands a bit.
>
> You're unreasonably paranoid and obnoxiously noisy about it. If
> you're afraid to ride busy roads, don't do it. Ride where you're
> comfortable, and quit your wimpy whining.
>
> - Frank Krygowski- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
That you may be a veteran of war doesn't prove that wars are safe...
I even bet you that riding a bike on America's roads is more dangerous
than doing service in Iraq.
We have to do the numbers, but I think that that's more true than
Obama's statement that soldiers in Iraq are safer than kids in
Chicago. At least I see more terrorists on our roads. ;)
pyotr filipivich
Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Tue, 15
Apr 2008 10:29:16 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:21:31 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
><nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 14, 9:54�pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
>>>
>>> <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
>>> >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
>>> >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>>>
>>> Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>>>
>>> Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
>>
>>Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
>>
>>I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
>>Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle. The world seems
>>to know it now too. It's evident in her foreign policies that she's
>>getting hungrier. And it's even more clear when you live inside and
>>you notice that the top predators want to have an SUV to show their
>>power and wealth --if not to impose their might...
>>
>>However dinosaurs are not forever. Actually, the hungrier they get,
>>the quicker they exhaust the resources, and the quicker they
>>disappear. But they were not known for having big brains either.
>>
>>Someone may ponder about that too.
>
>And this has what to do with assholes on bikes thinking they can
>survive an encounter with a motor vehicle?
Bikers feel that they too can pick and chose which laws apply to
them. Including the laws of physics.
Unfortunately, there are certain objective realities; just because
you're rather have a diagnosis of athelete's foot, doesn't make the
compound fracture go away.
tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
donquijote1954
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK, here I respond to my own challenge, since there's been no
challengers so far...
Some numbers on nationwide bicycle fatalities from 1975-2002:
"660 bicyclists were killed in crashes with motor vehicles in 2002."
So, since the deployment in Iraq accounts to 150,000 or so, we have to
prove that the same number of people riding bikes on heavy traffic
have a greater death toll. Of course, this doesn't apply to well
maintained bike paths where the beautiful people live nor to those
living in the actual Green Zone in Baghdad.
And also you have to take into account that bikers are not wearing
heavy armor... ;)
Fred Clydesdale
Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
> drive.
>
> On the other hand..its bad kharma to leave a bike rider a red smear on
> the roadway because the spandex clad dipshit decided that he is above
> all traffic laws and the laws of physics dont apply to the big assed
> trucks he cuts in front of. Much like the rainbow stickered idjits in
> tiny cars who do the same.
perhaps you have been a Bad Man through several lives already, and
the 900 lbs of tools (i assume that includes at least one 250
lb tool) are the burden you must bear for your past transgressions.
all you need is a begging bowl, sandals and two full outfits by
pearl izumi. 'kharma' will reward you a thousandfold in your next
life.
donquijote1954
wrong all along. Case in point is how Crocodile Hunter was killed by a
manta ray while trying to prove that sea monsters were quite
harmless... No, they are not. I say, "NEVER TRUST THE BEAST!" A basic
concept in the jungle.
Here's another example of people who die because of their wrong
ideas...
Is Cycling Dangerous?
Cyclist Ken Kifer uses statistics from a variety of reliable sources
to show that bicycling is not as dangerous as people often think it
is. I think his number of cyclists is a bit optimisitic, and that
makes the fractional risk a bit too small in some cases, but overall
he makes a good argument that cycling is not that risky. Sadly, Ken
was killed by a drunken driver in September 2003 while he was
bicycling.
donquijote1954
Canada suffers from it. But the solution is the same...
"if the cops do something about how much worse driving has gotten in
the city, even stupid humans will play nice to avoid consequences,
which they won't do just because it is right."
Cyclist Stabs Motorist
Posted November 2nd, 2007 by vic in road rage
The Toronto Star is reporting that a cyclist stabbed a motorist with a
screwdriver after a road rage incident. It happened this morning at
around 9:45am at the corner of College and McCaul.
A few more details on the City News website. They believe the cyclist
was a "courier".
It hurts me to read about incidents like this. I have no idea what
caused this altercation, or why the cyclist felt it was necessary to
stab the motorist. I was honked at and flipped off by a motorist on
Dundas St. this morning, then almost nailed by a left-turning car near
my work. But even when bad things happen to me on the road, I never
even come close to wanting to stab someone.
All this madness on the roads needs to end.
...
cars as weapons
On November 2nd, 2007 tanya says:
Definitely its not acceptable to stab a motorist over a road rage
altercation. Its not acceptable either to threaten them by waving a
knife in their face.
But yet when motorists get "road rage" they have a deadly weapon right
under their right foot. I've encountered motorists who will try to
intimidate me by gunning for me, then swerving at the last minute. Its
sad that this kind of knife waving is all too socially "acceptable".
...
Human nature is s%$#
On November 2nd, 2007 Aidan says:
Who cares what the guy's job, or lack of, was. He went postal. The
fact that every cyclist commenting here has likely fantasized about
doing something similar points to what we put up with. Human nature is
s%$#, but if the cops do something about how much worse driving has
gotten in the city, even stupid humans will play nice to avoid
consequences, which they won't do just because it is right.
Myal
guns fix it , cyclists need guns , guns = get respect , guns make
cyclists equal to truckies
the answer is GUZ GUNZ GUNZ
Tom Sherman
> [...]
> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
Must not be a very interesting or important book if it does not discuss
cycling.
Cycling, beer, cows and Usenet are important; all the rest is rubbish.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
Tom Sherman
> [...]
> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
your truck.
Tom Sherman
> [...]
> guns fix it , cyclists need guns , guns = get respect , guns make
> cyclists equal to truckies
>
> the answer is GUZ GUNZ GUNZ
>
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fu3miq$254$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> [...]
>> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
>> bicycling.[...]
>
> Must not be a very interesting or important book if it does not discuss
> cycling.
>
> Cycling, beer, cows and Usenet are important; all the rest is rubbish.
The posts of Ed Dolan the Great of ARBR should also be added to the above
list.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>> [...]
>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>> drive. [...]
>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>> roadway,[...]
>
> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
> your truck.
Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about children
as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
Tom Sherman
> "Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fu3miq$254$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
>>> bicycling.[...]
>> Must not be a very interesting or important book if it does not discuss
>> cycling.
>>
>> Cycling, beer, cows and Usenet are important; all the rest is rubbish.
>
> The posts of Ed Dolan the Great of ARBR should also be added to the above
> list.
>
Gunner
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
>> bicycling. I'd
>> be happy to look it up in my own copy if you could provide book,
>> chapter
>> and verse.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>It's evident enough... HE RODE A DONKEY.
>
>You get the point? He chose the most humble mode of transportation
>around, saying like a bike today.
Would that be a $20 Huffy..or the latest deep pocket custom made hip
slick and cool hiteck carbonfibre and titanium ultralight ride so
prefered by the "humble bike riders"?
Hummmm???
Or perhaps a "Big Wheel" in Barbie color scheme?
Gunner
Gunner
Most excellently spoken.
Gunner
Gunner
I do take Paypal as well.
Gunner
Gunner
<sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>> [...]
>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>> drive. [...]
>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>> roadway,[...]
>
>Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>your truck.
Bad Kharma and the wailing of the next of kin can be irritating.
Gunner
Gunner
wrote:
>
>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>> drive. [...]
>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>> roadway,[...]
>>
>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>> your truck.
>
>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about children
>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
Your missing your meds, right?
Tom Sherman
ComandanteBanana
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:02:28 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>
No, Huffies are more for the beggars that Jesus helped. He being God
would have need something more stately, like a pedal forward bike that
keeps your back straight and your head high for scanning the horizon.
Two choices are obvious: Electra bikes, or the cheaper brand that I
use, Sun. Well, I don't make any claims to being God either, so I'm
happy with it.
Or he may have used another option I'm considering, a trike. Yeah,
that would have allowed him to carry his Bibles and other gadgets...
ComandanteBanana
> > It hurts me to read about incidents like this. I have no idea what
> > caused this altercation, or why the cyclist felt it was necessary to
> > stab the motorist. I was honked at and flipped off by a motorist on
> > Dundas St. this morning, then almost nailed by a left-turning car near
> > my work. But even when bad things happen to me on the road, I never
> > even come close to wanting to stab someone.
>
> I was in one incident (fortunately no injuries or crashes) in which
> an irate driver passed me in very light traffic on a perfectly straight
> road, and then, when the road went from 4 lanes to 2, he tried to
> close the gap between us and would slam on his breaks, repeating this
> behavior 3 times. I managed to avoid an accident, but it was very
> close.
>
> I got his license number and reported it to the police. With the reaction
> I got from the f___tards in the DA's office, coupled with the lies and
> run-arounds, I can see why someone might react the way this Canadian
> cyclist did. If society wants people to do the "right" thing and let
> the criminal justice system handle it, the criminal justice system has
> to uphold its part of the bargain.
>
> BTW, the driver admitted to the braking. His excuse was that I was
> supposedly going 30 in a 25 zone and he couldn't outrun me, but I
> was blocking traffic anyway. And that was on a knobby-tired mountain
> bike on basically level ground.
>
> --
> My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB
I forgot to get his plate, but for the reasons above, I don't think
there would have been justice --and definitely I'd have gone through a
lot of trouble.
I have another strategy in dealing with the beasts and it's based on a
saying of mine, "My struggle is not against the puppet, but against
the puppeteer"...
Who's the puppeteer who could change things and GIVE RESPECT to the
cyclists? The police, the politicians, the president? Or all of them?
The puppet only takes life in an atmosphere where the cyclists are
equivalent to a stray dog. Even if you screwdrive him, it's not worth
it. Never waste your time with the puppet. Go for the puppeteer. And
that's what I'm doing here.
ComandanteBanana
> > (Hey, this goes to show that I'm not repeating stuff here. What you
> > want me to talk about next?)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Talk about the role of the bicycler in ensuring his/her own safety
> with a brief forray into bicycle edicate. A sidebar and politeness
> and civility would also be nice. Then you could cap this with a
> discussion on respect for other people, the end to ego-centricism,
> recognition that all people are different (and want different things)
> and how the world would be better if we all did our part to get along.
>
> That would be a nice this for discussion.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not until we see the connection between the victims of the law of the
jungle in Haiti and our own roads we will realize we are under attack
by the rich and powerful...
On Apr 13, 8:49 am, Igor The Terrible
<igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote:
> My...imagine that! The repercussions of the maldistribution of wealth
> will soon turn on new avenues and come back to rattle the cages of the
> economically oppressive whose reasoning has been all but squashed by
> insatiable greed. Potable water is a becoming an endangered commodity
> and now food is right behind it. This shit doesn't look good at all.
> A word to the wise; address this emerging crisis promptly as it should
> be...or resign yourselves to a fate of your own making. It's no
> longer a game of money being used as beans to keep score. It is now
> becoming a matter of survival and the law of the jungle will rapidly
> eclipse the laws of intellectuals for the promotion of an orderly
> society. Riots are already breaking out in our hemisphere. (See
> Haiti)
We can't simply get along because a few want to keep their lion's
share of the pie, whether that pie is resources or a piece of road.
And every monkey who does something about it, gets us one step closer
toward fixing the jungle --or making it real wild for all. WELCOME TO
THE JUNGLE!
ComandanteBanana
I challenge the lady who had these incidents to tell me if she thinks
that could have happened to her in Sweden. While I was in Norway, I
generally saw good behavior. I'm writing from the jungle
(Miami)... ;)
"Actually, I know this first hand. I grew up on the key and there is
a toll you have to pay to get on there. The residents always
complained about how their tolls were being raised because of people
running the tolls. At one town meeting, they all decided that if they
ever saw someone trying to run the toll, they would alert a toll booth
collector (the emblem lane was a clear lane without an attendant) and
so they did; stopping in the lane to call over attendants to charge
the scammers trying to sneak in behind them. You heard stories of
arguments and road rage farther down the causeway but one day a
busybody troublemaker my mom was driving through there with me in the
car. She saw through her rear view mirror that the guy behind us did
not have an emblem so she stopped and started honking until the
attendant came over to collect his measly dollar and off she drove.
Right before the bridge, the man pulls up next to us, on my side, and
pulls out a gun- A GUN. I was still in elementary school. I remember
how scared my mom looked and how TERRIFIED I was when she physically
started taking my seatbelt off and pushing me towards the floor of the
car. She flew to the first gas station she could find and she NEVER
tried that hall monitor shit again.
I, on the other hand, did not learn my lesson that day. When I was
16, a few days shy of leaving for college, I was driving through the
Gables with my best pal Laura and there was this car of guys that kept
pulling up next to us. We ignored them- actually, we screwed with
them by turning up the radio at the light by the Coral Gables
library. We played this game the whole way through the Gables. At
the light of Coral Way/Miracle Mile and Le Jeune, they pulled up next
to us again. With that they make some dumb ass comments and we
laugh. One of them yells 'what you laughing at white cracker bitch?'
To which my smart ass responds 'F U.' The guy got out of the car and
grabbed my friends hair. Not thinking that there are lunatics out
there and because I can't leave well enough alone empowered by the
whole teen/live forever bit, I get out of the car to get the guy's tag
number. There was a quick verbal exchange but it ended in the guy
punching me. 3 am and 12 stitches later, I decided life pays you back
for your crimes that and I finally understood Newton's Law of Motion."
HAVE YOU BEEN THE VICTIM OF HORROR STORIES LIKE THESE?
ComandanteBanana
wonderful?) as to whether they too turn to the law of the jungle in
traffic. But in the meantime, see what I've found...
"I have already mentioned about driving in right, in Sweden. One
another thing I observed is, the way pedestrians are given the
priority. Maybe it’s the same all over Europe and somewhere else. But
whenever a pedestrian is about to cross the road, all vehicles come to
a stop and allow the pedestrian to cross. And I have seen Swedish
people nod at the driver and smile, everytime someone stops their
vehicle. Being a good mannered person(Ahem), I tried to follow suit.
But then old habits die hard. I look at the driver, and invariably end
up looking at the co-passenger since the driver sits here on the left
side of the car. And most of the times, it happens to be a girl. So it
is like this. Driver stops the vehicle, I cross the road and then
smile at the girl sitting next to the driver. Poor driver. What he
must be thinking of me? ‘Saala! I stopped the vehicle for you and you
smile at the girl next to me. Hmph!’"
They seem to be pretty civilized. Here the guy will come out of the
car with a bat for looking at his girlfriend. But in India is pretty
bad too...
"good one. in india the drivers have their fun trying to run down the
people and well mannered people too"
And yet their politicians are addressing the issue...
Where are your manners, PM asks motorists
June 24, 2006 15:57 IST
Appalled by the chaos on Indian roads, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh
on Saturday said that wind swept roads and fancy cars alone did not
reflect progress, it had to be accompanied by good road manners and
discipline.
“Building modern roads and driving modern cars are not the end all and
be all of progress. Good road manners and adherence to road discipline
are equally important,” he said at a national highway project
inauguration function in Bangalore.
“I think we must ask ourselves, why can’t we be more polite to each
other, more caring of each other, more respectful of each other,” Dr
Singh asked.
The prime minister said people must learn road manners, how to give
way to pedestrians, how to observe normal rules while overtaking, how
to park and when not to blow a horn.
“These are simple rules, but their observance makes a lot of
difference to our daily lives,” he said, adding: “We Indians behave
with great courtesy at home and with our family and friends. But
sometimes, when we go out we leave these good manners at home. On the
road, we lose control of our good senses. Why should this be so.”
ComandanteBanana
> On Apr 13, 8:49 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > Maldistribution of wealth?
>
> > I wasn't aware that there was a pile of wealth somewhere that was being
> > distributed around the world by someone.
>
> Because you aren't one of the elite, nor can you see it well enough to
> understand that the wealth does exist, but only for the very very few.
>
> Mike
The lions control the wealth and the destiny of the jungle...
"what you get is a world where the only law is the law of the jungle,
where the strong prey on the weak and where might makes right. That is
the world we live in today, effectively run as a dictatorship"
(Gee, it almost sounds like our roads!)
The Law of the Jungle
by Jamie Stern-Weiner
In principle, international law serves the same purpose for the world
as traditional common law does for states. As with domestic societies,
without a system of law that is both applied universally and enforced
effectively, what you get is a world where the only law is the law of
the jungle, where the strong prey on the weak and where might makes
right. That is the world we live in today, effectively run as a
dictatorship, where the powerful mold the world around them according
to their interests using force and coercion where necessary.
Unsurprisingly, then, the current international climate exhibits many
of the features of a dictatorship. The strong are exempt from the rule
of law and decide unilaterally whom the law should and should not
apply to. The powerful are free to use violence and intimidation to
coerce the weak into submission. The status quo is, unsurprisingly,
extremely unpopular with the majority of the world – a popular
dictatorship is a rare thing. Dictatorship usually goes hand in hand
with war because a dictator is primarily concerned with consolidating
and expanding his power and, for the powerful, war is an extremely
effective tool for furthering one's own interests.
A strong and apolitical international justice system is, then,
critical in the struggle for peace. Without such a system of
international law, we are all leaving our collective fate in the hands
of the powerful, hands that we can be sure are far from benign.
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jsweiner.php?articleid=10431
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:fu3miq$254$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
>>>> bicycling.[...]
>>> Must not be a very interesting or important book if it does not discuss
>>> cycling.
>>>
>>> Cycling, beer, cows and Usenet are important; all the rest is rubbish.
>>
>> The posts of Ed Dolan the Great of ARBR should also be added to the above
>> list.
>>
> Are not those part of Usenet?
Other posters to Usenet are all worthless. Only Ed Dolan the Great matters.
Jeez, I thought you knew at least that much by now. Try to be more humble
like ME! Arrogance is an unattractive vice.
Edward Dolan
"Gunner" <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:iteb04psg7i00pde3...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>> drive. [...]
>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>
>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>> your truck.
>>
>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>children
>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>
> Your missing your meds, right?
I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like you
are!
Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
you better.
ComandanteBanana
> On Apr 16, 12:05 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > Biking in traffic ain't safe because:
>
> > 1- The drivers are poorly trained, and pass on every lane, including
> > the right
>
> > 2- They are often on the phone or don't give a damn
>
> > 3- Some are real criminals
>
> > 4- Cyclists are not given respect, both from drivers and authorities
>
> > 5- Our fat SUVs make it harder to stay clear
>
> Those are reasons _you_ imagine cycling is not safe. Data prove you
> wrong.
>
> > As for the stats, "There are lies, and statistics"...
>
> Whenever I see someone attempt to quote that, I know the person is
> mathematically incompetent.
>
> And you didn't even get the quote right.
>
> - Frank Krygowski- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK, here's this jungle where you are the guide, and in it there are
many wild beasts, and you are telling to the first time explorer that
because you've survived for so long, they'll be fine. Hmmm...
You know, all kinds of predators in there: snakes, elephants, lions...
Well, you need some kind of shotgun or at least mosquito repellent. It
sounds very scary according to the stories of those who have been
bitten.
WHAT DO OUR FRIENDS WHO ARE EXPERTS AT SURVIVAL SAY? ;)
Tom Sherman
> [...]
> I am not driving a god damn fucking truck [...]
Ho's on wheels?
pyotr filipivich
15 Apr 2008 13:02:28 -0700 (PDT) in misc.survivalism :
>On Apr 15, 1:32 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> > > >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
>> > > >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
>> > > >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>>
>> > > Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>>
>> > > Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
>>
>> > Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
>>
>> > I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
>> > Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle.
>>
>> chapter and verse.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton-
>
>
>You get the point? He chose the most humble mode of transportation
>around, saying like a bike today.
Second most humble.
The Humble Walked.
The really humbled crawled.
But it is worth noting that you can't provide a carpenter and
verse.
--
pyotr filipivich
Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms:
1) There is a God.
2) It's not you.
pyotr filipivich
2008 01:41:24 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>> drive. [...]
>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>
>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>> your truck.
>>
>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about children
>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>
>Your missing your meds, right?
I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
at all.
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
ComandanteBanana
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> 15 Apr 2008 13:02:28 -0700 (PDT) in misc.survivalism :
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 15, 1:32 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> > > >Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the
> >> > > >more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the
> >> > > >strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.
>
> >> > > Evidently you have never heard the phrase "Right or Dead Right"
>
> >> > > Might want to ponder on that one for a bit.
>
> >> > Yep, and I have changed my survival strategy accordingly.
>
> >> > I have realized that America, despite her claims to democracy and
> >> > Christianity, is now ruled by the Law of the Jungle.
>
> >> You know, I can't quite recall which Bible verse talks about
> >> bicycling. I'd be happy to look it up in my own copy if you could provide book,
> >> chapter and verse.
>
> >> Cindy Hamilton-
>
> >It's evident enough... HE RODE A DONKEY.
>
> >You get the point? He chose the most humble mode of transportation
> >around, saying like a bike today.
>
> Second most humble.
>
> The Humble Walked.
>
> The really humbled crawled.
>
> But it is worth noting that you can't provide a carpenter and
> verse.
A carpenter? Jesus was a carpenter, no?
He gave walking sticks to the very humble...
ComandanteBanana
> On Apr 16, 6:58 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > OK, here's this jungle where you are the guide, and in it there are
> > many wild beasts, and you are telling to the first time explorer that
> > because you've survived for so long, they'll be fine. Hmmm...
>
> > You know, all kinds of predators in there: snakes, elephants, lions...
> > Well, you need some kind of shotgun or at least mosquito repellent. It
> > sounds very scary according to the stories of those who have been
> > bitten.
>
> > WHAT DO OUR FRIENDS WHO ARE EXPERTS AT SURVIVAL SAY? ;)
>
>
> - Frank Krygowski
Well, I see plenty of predators out there. But you missed out on the
perfect model to analyze our roads...
1- You can't take a shotgun into a bike ride
2- The predator is coming at you from the back
3- You can't identify the predator; it may just be an innocent-looking
soccer mom in her SUV
For all those reasons our roads remain "MOST DANGEROUS JUNGLE!"
Edward Dolan
"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:me8d049gofjetg88a...@4ax.com...
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr
> 2008 01:41:24 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>
>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage
>>>> to
>>>> your truck.
>>>
>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>children
>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>
>
> I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
> at all.
>
> pyotr
>
Get an American name you dipshit!
> The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
> better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
Those who have lived for more than a few decades know that the former is
only too true. Only the young ever think that the latter is true.
Tom Sherman
> "pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:me8d049gofjetg88a...@4ax.com...
>> pyotr filipivich
>
> Get an American name you dipshit!
>
American names would be from the indigenous languages spoken by the
American Indians.
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:me8d049gofjetg88a...@4ax.com...
>>> [...]
>>> pyotr filipivich
>>
>> Get an American name you dipshit!
>>
> Says the man with an Irish last name.
The least the moron could do is change his first name to Peter. Slavic names
are ridiculous in America. Let the dunce return to the land of his ancestors
if he wants to keep his Pyotr.
> American names would be from the indigenous languages spoken by the
> American Indians.
Nonsense, the Indians were conquered and largely displaced by Europeans
mainly from the British Isles. They continue to live on this continent by
the grace of their conquerors. After all, we could have exterminated the lot
of them if we had wanted to. That is pretty much what the ancient Israelites
did when they conquered the land of Canaan (Palestine) following the Exodus.
Tom Sherman
> [...] After all, we could have exterminated the lot
> of them if we had wanted to. That is pretty much what the ancient Israelites
> did when they conquered the land of Canaan (Palestine) following the Exodus.
>
Gunner
wrote:
>
>"Gunner" <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:iteb04psg7i00pde3...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>
>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>> your truck.
>>>
>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>children
>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>
>> Your missing your meds, right?
>
>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like you
>are!
What song is that? Got the lyrics?
>
>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
>you better.
When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
Greeter wages?
>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>aka
>>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
Gunner
Gunner
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr
>2008 01:41:24 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>
>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>> your truck.
>>>
>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about children
>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>
>>Your missing your meds, right?
>
> I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
>at all.
>
that endorphin junky thing eh?
Gunner
>pyotr
pyotr filipivich
Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr
The Cosmic Damage is often worse than the Cosmetic.
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
pyotr filipivich
2008 03:21:53 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
Or the "my head doesn't feel full of cotton balls" thingy.
tschus
ComandanteBanana
"El Commandante...why don’t you tell us how you really feel.
And on a side note...where do you get your mushrooms?"
Well, I feel great now that I’m able to fight back against the jungle
responsible for the anonymous predator. The best way is to avoid the
jungles where they are common sight.
But now I’ve got a challenge for those who can change the jungle (the
police, politicians and voters at large): WHY ON EARTH THE POLICE,
INSTEAD OF RUNNING UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS AS A HOOKER, DON’T PUT AN
UNDERCOVER POLICEMAN ON A BIKE AND SEND HIM TO THE BRIDGE?
Oh, no. The police won’t do it because they don’t have orders; the
politicians won’t do it because they don’t care; and the voters --who
drive SUVs-- just want to live in a hypocritical world, where moral
rectitude, and not cyclists rights, is the priority.
That’s why with the revolution, we will bring this package…
“Sexual democracy becomes central even more than religious freedom
when discussing the Dutch vision of democracy.”
http://www.bidoun.com/issues/issue_10/05a_all.html
Actually, I propose a “Dutch Package,” where issues normal to the
Dutch --gay rights, bike facilities, prostitution and marihuana-- are
discussed in less open societies.
PS: Banana peels are better than mushroom. And then you eat the
banana. ;)
Gunner
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr
>2008 01:41:28 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:02:27 -0500, Tom Sherman
>><sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>> drive. [...]
>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>
>>>Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>your truck.
>>
>>Bad Kharma and the wailing of the next of kin can be irritating.
>
> The Cosmic Damage is often worse than the Cosmetic.
>
>pyotr
Indeed.
Gunner
Bob Brock
Because you need the extra money to pay your hospital bills.
Edward Dolan
Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health. What
good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
like you.
Edward Dolan
Just a couple of assholes who are into poking one another. How the hell did
these two numskulls ever end up on ARBR? I attribute it all to that idiot
cyclist from Florida who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground. He
is all blather and nonsense - and is crazy as a loon besides. Fuck him and
all his shit I say!
Bob Brock
wrote:
Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.
Edward Dolan
"Bob Brock" <bbr...@i-americia.net> wrote in message
news:2kbf04dl7pd612neu...@4ax.com...[...]
>>>>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like
>>>>you
>>>>are!
Gunner wrote:
>>> What song is that? Got the lyrics?
>>>>
>>>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to
>>>>suit
>>>>you better.
>>>
>>> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>>> Greeter wages?
>>
>>Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health.
>>What
>>good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
>>But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
>>truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
>>getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
>>like you.
>>
>
> Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
> telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.
Even so he has the trucker mentality. He needs to ride a bicycle instead.
Maybe then he would get his head screwed on straight.
pyotr filipivich
00:07:35 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>
>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fu6daq$s34$3...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:me8d049gofjetg88a...@4ax.com...
>>>> [...]
>>>> pyotr filipivich
>>>
>>> Get an American name you dipshit!
>>>
>> Says the man with an Irish last name.
>
>The least the moron could do is change his first name to Peter. Slavic names
>are ridiculous in America. Let the dunce return to the land of his ancestors
>if he wants to keep his Pyotr.
Eddy here needs to learn a little more about the Internet, and
realty. Pyotr is one of several cognates for my birth name, and I've
used most of them as I traveled or studied foreign languages. (I
can't spell in four languages and two alphabets.)
>
>> American names would be from the indigenous languages spoken by the
>> American Indians.
>
>Nonsense, the Indians were conquered and largely displaced by Europeans
>mainly from the British Isles.
And you may go back. My Ancestors were not immigrants but
colonists, founding cities in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. So head
on back to the old sod, Eddy the late comer.
tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
pyotr filipivich
21:30:26 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>
>"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote
>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>children
>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>
>>>Your [You're] missing your meds, right?
>>
>> I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
>> at all.
>>
>> pyotr
>>
>> pyotr filipivich
>
>Get an American name you dipshit!
Get one yourself! - and stop using that British one, now.
--
pyotr filipivich
Edward Dolan
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Thu, 17 Apr 2008
> 00:07:35 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>
>>"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:fu6daq$s34$3...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> "pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:me8d049gofjetg88a...@4ax.com...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> pyotr filipivich
>>>>
>>>> Get an American name you dipshit!
>>>>
>>> Says the man with an Irish last name.
>>
>>The least the moron could do is change his first name to Peter. Slavic
>>names
>>are ridiculous in America. Let the dunce return to the land of his
>>ancestors
>>if he wants to keep his Pyotr.
>
>
> Eddy here needs to learn a little more about the Internet, and
> realty. Pyotr is one of several cognates for my birth name, and I've
> used most of them as I traveled or studied foreign languages. (I
> can't spell in four languages and two alphabets.)
I think you mean that you CAN spell in four languages and two alphabets. But
this does not mean you have any common sense. For heaven's sakes, settle on
one name with one spelling!
>>> American names would be from the indigenous languages spoken by the
>>> American Indians.
>>
>>Nonsense, the Indians were conquered and largely displaced by Europeans
>>mainly from the British Isles.
>
> And you may go back. My Ancestors were not immigrants but
> colonists, founding cities in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. So head
> on back to the old sod, Eddy the late comer.
This nation does not need any more immigrants, whether legal or illegal. If
we were sane, we would stop all immigration to this country except for a few
highly educated types which we can't produce ourselves. The very last thing
this country needs is more uneducated peasants from Mexico.
Edward Dolan
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr 2008
> 21:30:26 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>
>>"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote
>>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>>children
>>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>>
>>>>Your [You're] missing your meds, right?
>>>
>>> I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> pyotr
>>>
>>> pyotr filipivich
>>
>>Get an American name you dipshit!
>
> Get one yourself! - and stop using that British one, now.
Your name is gibberish, although it might pass in Slavic lands. I have a
noble and pure name as befits my status in life. We can't all be peasants
like you. Now go crawl back under your rock, oh ye miserable Slav!
Gunner
wrote:
>>>>>Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>>>your truck.
>>>>
>>>>Bad Kharma and the wailing of the next of kin can be irritating.
>>>
>>> The Cosmic Damage is often worse than the Cosmetic.
>>>
>>>pyotr
>>
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> Gunner
>
>Just a couple of assholes who are into poking one another. How the hell did
>these two numskulls ever end up on ARBR? I attribute it all to that idiot
>cyclist from Florida who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground. He
>is all blather and nonsense - and is crazy as a loon besides. Fuck him and
>all his shit I say!
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
So you admit to being a "fudge packer"
I was wondering..you sounded a bit militant.
Gunner
wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
>>>you better.
>>
>> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>> Greeter wages?
>
>Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health.
Whats the difference between my E350 extended length, and your Yugo
fagmobile? I can carry a bunch of parts and tools, while you have a
hard time carrying your lunch.
What
>good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
Steal? Is that Marxist Speech for an honest days work, for an honest
days pay?
>But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
>truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
>getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
>like you.
If the little tyke is running away from your sexual advances , darts
into traffic and into the path of my vehicle, be it my truck, or my
BMW motorcycle, its hardly murder on my part, though a good case can
be made it is, on yours.
After which you will be tried, convicted and sent to prison, where
they will put you into general population, and being a child molesting
fagboi, you will be gang raped repeatedly, until you will either slit
your own wrists, or some con will stuff a frozen hotdog down your
throat and choke you to death.
Either way, Im sure your parents and what few friends you may have
had, will beath a sign of relief. I on the other hand will piss on
your grave for making that child run out in front of me.
Shrug
Gunner
Gunner
wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
>> telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.
>
>Even so he has the trucker mentality. He needs to ride a bicycle instead.
>Maybe then he would get his head screwed on straight.
I did a quick google, and am unable to find any definition of what a
"trucker mentality" actually is.
Would you care to define it for all of the readers?
Im sure your career as a gay male lot lizard at truck and rest stops
has given you some insight.
Ill be waiting
Gunner
Gunner
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>"Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr 2008
>21:30:26 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>
>>"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote
>>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>>children
>>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>>
>>>>Your [You're] missing your meds, right?
>>>
>>> I doubt it. He probably feels really great and doesn't miss them
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> pyotr
>>>
>>> pyotr filipivich
>>
>>Get an American name you dipshit!
>
> Get one yourself! - and stop using that British one, now.
>
>
Fucking pretentious Brits anyways.
Gunner Asch
Gunner
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>Nonsense, the Indians were conquered and largely displaced by Europeans
>>mainly from the British Isles.
>
> And you may go back. My Ancestors were not immigrants but
>colonists, founding cities in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. So head
>on back to the old sod, Eddy the late comer.
>
>
>tschus
>pyotr
Eddy is carpet bagging white trash, running one step ahead of a
hangmans noose in the old country.
Gunner, Native American, Ojibwa
Edward Dolan
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:29:34 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
>>> telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.
>>
>>Even so he has the trucker mentality. He needs to ride a bicycle instead.
>>Maybe then he would get his head screwed on straight.
>
>
> I did a quick google, and am unable to find any definition of what a
> "trucker mentality" actually is.
Not everything under the sun is susceptible to a Google search, ygdfm!
> Would you care to define it for all of the readers?
Nope. Figure it out for yourself, ygdfm!
> Im sure your career as a gay male lot lizard at truck and rest stops
> has given you some insight.
Jeez, a homo truck driver! Before you know it we will be having homo
priests!
> Ill be waiting
Where is the apostrophe and the period - ygdfm!
Fucking Regards,
Edward Dolan
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:03:04 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to
>>>>suit
>>>>you better.
>>>
>>> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>>> Greeter wages?
>>
>>Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health.
>
> Whats the difference between my E350 extended length, and your Yugo
> fagmobile? I can carry a bunch of parts and tools, while you have a
> hard time carrying your lunch.
Fuck your parts and tools - ygdfm!
> What
>>good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
>
> Steal? Is that Marxist Speech for an honest days work, for an honest
> days pay?
Nope. If you are getting $75. an hour for whatever the hell you do, you are
stealing pure and simple. You ought to be in jail for theft - ygdfm!
>>But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
>>truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
>>getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
>>like you.
>
> If the little tyke is running away from your sexual advances , darts
> into traffic and into the path of my vehicle, be it my truck, or my
> BMW motorcycle, its hardly murder on my part, though a good case can
> be made it is, on yours.
Jeez, a homo truck driver who wants to murder children. Now I have heard it
all!
> After which you will be tried, convicted and sent to prison, where
> they will put you into general population, and being a child molesting
> fagboi, you will be gang raped repeatedly, until you will either slit
> your own wrists, or some con will stuff a frozen hotdog down your
> throat and choke you to death.
Yup, he has been there and knows all about what goes on there. Which prison
was
it by the way?
> Either way, Im sure your parents and what few friends you may have
> had, will beath a sign of relief. I on the other hand will piss on
> your grave for making that child run out in front of me.
I am the champion pisser on Usenet. I mean it is like every 2 fucking hours!
> Shrug
Fuck you too!
Fucking Regards,
Edward Dolan
Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>Nonsense, the Indians were conquered and largely displaced by Europeans
>>>mainly from the British Isles.
>>
>> And you may go back. My Ancestors were not immigrants but
>>colonists, founding cities in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. So head
>>on back to the old sod, Eddy the late comer.
>>
>>
>>tschus
>>pyotr
>
>
> Eddy is carpet bagging white trash, running one step ahead of a
> hangmans noose in the old country.
Gunner is a homo truck driver who wants nothing better than to run over
children with his god damn fucking truck and kill them.
Fucking Regards,
Edward Dolan
I hate the Brits even more than you do. I am of Irish ancestry for Christ's
sakes!
Edward Dolan
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:11:48 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>your truck.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bad Kharma and the wailing of the next of kin can be irritating.
>>>>
>>>> The Cosmic Damage is often worse than the Cosmetic.
>>>>
>>>>pyotr
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>>Just a couple of assholes who are into poking one another. How the hell
>>did
>>these two numskulls ever end up on ARBR? I attribute it all to that idiot
>>cyclist from Florida who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground.
>>He
>>is all blather and nonsense - and is crazy as a loon besides. Fuck him and
>>all his shit I say!
>
>
> I was wondering..you sounded a bit militant.
I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
Fucking Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
pyotr filipivich
20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>
>I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>
>Fucking Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
and the traffic laws.
toodles
Tom Sherman
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 18 Apr 2008
> 20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>> I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>> their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>>
>> Fucking Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
> that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
> and the traffic laws.
>
called a liberal.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
pyotr filipivich
"Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Thu, 17 Apr 2008
I did.
Deal with it.
John R. Carroll
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting
LOL
When was the last time you were invited to attend????
The world wonders, but not much.
Enjoy your vacation. Sincerely.
--
John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com
Edward Dolan
[...]
Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>>>>>> Get an American name you dipshit!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Says the man with an Irish last name.
>>>>
>>>>The least the moron could do is change his first name to Peter. Slavic
>>>>names
>>>>are ridiculous in America. Let the dunce return to the land of his
>>>>ancestors
>>>>if he wants to keep his Pyotr.
>>>
>>>
>>> Eddy here needs to learn a little more about the Internet, and
>>> realty. Pyotr is one of several cognates for my birth name, and I've
>>> used most of them as I traveled or studied foreign languages. (I
>>> can't spell in four languages and two alphabets.)
>>
>>I think you mean that you CAN spell in four languages and two alphabets.
>>But
>>this does not mean you have any common sense. For heaven's sakes, settle
>>on
>>one name with one spelling!
>
> I did.
>
> Deal with it.
I will NOT deal with it! We are never going to get anywhere until you change
your despicable name. I am assuming it is only a user name, but why not pick
something like Peter Flipper? Pyotr belongs in the old Soviet Union, not in
the land of the free and the home of the brave.
I am fed up with stupid names. Slavic names are the worst in the world
because no one can ever pronounce them let alone spell them. It is an insult
to my intelligence to have to put up with folks with stupid Slavic names.
Edward Dolan
> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 18 Apr 2008
> 20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>
>>I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>>their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>>
>>Fucking Regards,
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
> that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
> and the traffic laws.
>
> toodles
> pyotr
I am to the right of Attila the Hun. I have spent the past several years on
Usenet ripping into liberals without mercy. But I do not like drivers of
vehicles who think it is smart to bully cyclists on the road.
I just learned this past week of a RAM cyclist roughly my age who lives
nearby being killed on the road in NW Iowa by a motorist (hit from behind).
Cycling is dangerous enough without truck drivers like Gunner wanting to run
over us because we are slowing him down.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman" <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 18 Apr 2008
>> 20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>> I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>>> their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>>>
>>> Fucking Regards,
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>> Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
>> that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
>> and the traffic laws.
>>
> I am sure that Mr. Ed the Grate (aka Edward Dolan) will love being called
> a liberal.
Peter Flipper assumed that most cyclists who post to Usenet are liberals and
he is is quite correct in that assumption. However, most real world cyclists
are not liberals but conservatives. But you would never know that if you go
by what is posted on Usenet. The Great Ed Dolan is here to readdress the
balance.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Gunner Asch
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>"Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 18 Apr 2008
>20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>
>>I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>>their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>>
>>Fucking Regards,
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
>that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
>and the traffic laws.
>
>toodles
>pyotr
Ill bet he was one of those Leftards that wanted to mandate that Pi
equal 3.0
Gunner
"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
Gunner Asch
<sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> [Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 18 Apr 2008
>> 20:04:13 -0500 in misc.survivalism :
>>> I admit to hating homo truck drivers who want to run over children with
>>> their trucks. Now get the fuck off of ARBR, ygdfm!
>>>
>>> Fucking Regards,
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>> Tisk tisk, Eddy boyo here must be one of those Liberals who feel
>> that the law applies to other people, including the laws of physics,
>> and the traffic laws.
>>
>I am sure that Mr. Ed the Grate (aka Edward Dolan) will love being
>called a liberal.
Imbecile, liberal..the same thing
im·be·cile (mb-sl, -sl)
n.
1. A stupid or silly person; a dolt.
2. A person whose mental acumen is well below par.
3. A person of moderate to severe mental retardation having a mental
age of from three to seven years and generally being capable of some
degree of communication and performance of simple tasks under
supervision.
adj. also im·be·cil·ic (mb-slk)
1. Stupid; silly.
2. Well below par in mental acumen.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
Oddly enough Eddy Noload is lying utterly about my view and my
comments.
But thats the typical arrogance of many bike riders. They simply
cannot stand critism for their elitist outlook or their arrogance and
utter stupidity.
No wonder many die as the result of their actions. Darwin events
actually.
Pity
Gunner, who rides Cannondale, Trek, Paramount, but doesnt try to bully
vehicles outweighing him by many tons.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>