White Obama Fans Get a Critical and Dire Warning From South Africa..
toiyu...@googlemail.com
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of
the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa
(but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future
Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar
to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups,
your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved
or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the
world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem
it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to
losing your Western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting
fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences,
writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are
comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for
yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political
accountability.
But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White
Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to
challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result
of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to
cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots,
intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for
proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and
political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power
from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt
cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately
their way of life.
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was
there and I saw it happen.
South Africa used to be one of the most advanced nations on earth.
Then Washington intervened.
Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the
sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National
Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to
achieve "peace."
Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years not because he was an
innocent black man but because he was a Communist terrorist who said
in court that he was planning to kill people with bombs. He could have
been released at any time simply by renouncing terrorism. He refused.
Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are
builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for
our society.
The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts
and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the
psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and
Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in
perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia
- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet
Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to
America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.
The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation
of the Western conscience of compassion.
Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and
its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and
savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western
politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps:
the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside
the realm.
Again, Washington forced Rhodesia into Communist hands. Rhodesia
exported tons of food. Zimbabwe typically starves. Washington did
this.
It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough
people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the
armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the
craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy
them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.
White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of
Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North
America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We
are not so very different from you.
South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?
We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad
(not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and
"racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white
man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his
compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your
neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's
history.
See my recent piece – Before the Election: What You Must Do – about
the deliberate cultivation of white guilt in the Communist government
schools.
The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western
influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's
tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in
Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would
deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing
whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."
Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled
by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After
receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust
against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will
capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They
don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they
were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise
and be nice.
A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting
somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about
falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the
meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their
community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted
and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into
their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't
want to quarrel.
In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws.
But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by
court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority
says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge
"white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled
with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition
187 has already been overturned
What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change
the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer
want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white
"racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying
the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official
language?
Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first
targets were our national symbols.
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now
experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the
decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the
banishment of your history from the education of the young; the
revolutionization of your justice system.
In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail.
Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear.
Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making
escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly
purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.
What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your
neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that
litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of
witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for
"medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?
Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.
Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in
the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome
generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.
In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial
solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites.
When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world,
white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring
him to surrender.
When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents,
ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and
siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his
friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and
declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.
Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In
South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds
such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply
abandoned.
What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either
destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the
goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as
in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy
votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or
devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the
most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa
is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no
getting it back again.
Please note. Once it’s gone, it’s gone. Whatever you do later, however
hard you fight, you cannot get it back.
Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot
fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You
cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot
appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises
you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his
political opponents.
To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to
people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the
test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will
probably fail.
Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake:
They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and
George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your
possessions, your power, and your status.
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights
activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will
fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and
your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your
weaknesses well.
They know what to do.
Do you?
Tom
Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
Tom
clouddreamer
> by Alan Stang
<bullshit snipped>
You can't compare S. Africa to the US. The US population of blacks is
13%. It's 80% in Africa...and there, the whites were the immigrants.
<sheesh> Face it. You guys have run out of straws.
..
--
We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
Thanatos
<8afc0180-003d-437b...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
> > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
> Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
Because in many parts of the world, being politically incorrect can get
you hacked to pieces.
Tom
> In article
> <8afc0180-003d-437b-83fc-0749b063d...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
> > Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
>
> Because in many parts of the world, being politically incorrect can get
> you hacked to pieces.
Doesn't do much for his/her credibility, not to mention standing up
for his/her convictions.
Tom
Ed Stasiak
>
> You can't compare S. Africa to the US. The US population of blacks is
> 13%. It's 80% in Africa...and there, the whites were the immigrants.
The author is making a comparison between Black Africans
in South Africa and Mexicans and other Hispanics in the U.S.
LT
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights
activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will
fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and
your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your
weaknesses well.
They know what to do.
Do you?
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=83332
Wait there just a minute... I'll make you a tin-foil hat... Remember...
shinny side out.
LT
garre...@yahoo.com
> On Nov 6, 8:27 pm, toiyutur...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > by Alan Stang
> > November 6, 2008
> > NewsWithViews.com
>
> > I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
huge snip
> > They know what to do.
>
> > Do you?
>
> >http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=83332
>
> Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
Why would you quote hundreds of lines to tack on a single sentence.
[btw I'm doing you a favor as most people would simply skip over it
and nmev4rer read your comment.]
richard
wrote:
>by Alan Stang
>November 6, 2008
>NewsWithViews.com
>
>I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
>election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
>was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
>here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
>South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
>comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
>whether you recognize any of this.
>
Totally fucking wrong.
S Africa was 100% black before a very small band of whites entered the
scene and began enslaving the stupid illiterate natives. Where in
American history do you see this happening?
Mandela was not imprisoned for his so called terrorism threats. He was
imprisoned because he dared to buck the white controlled government.
It was not just one time, but several times.
This so called warning seems to have been written by someone who has
little experience with American politics and getting the facts right.
Dick Cheney
Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
Most deservedly, too.
Ken Lay
> Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
They don't. A better question is: why would any legitimate journalist
need a third party to spam his or her article to multiple Usenet
newsgroups specially selected to appeal to a favorable audience
demographic?
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.
Thanatos
Dick Cheney <wool-p...@peoples.eye> wrote:
Ah, so this is the new tolerant Left? Say the wrong thing and be
executed?
Fantastic!
Thanatos
<a1e61af7-d920-476b...@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
Don't be silly. Some of the greatest revolutionary citizen journalists
throughout history have done their work under pseudonyms.
Chris
Still doesn't make sense. Besides, I am more worried about ending two
wars, keeping my family healthy, and holding on my job and my house. My
Latino, or my (insert any other ethnic qualifier here) neighbor is not
my enemy.
Keith Lee
I am not that knowledgeable about South African history. I read this due to the fact that it is right on
concerning American whites. We whites are way too complacent and giving. We forget any wrongs or
indignities given to us and constantly feel guilty about our good fortune. Without giving ourselves any
recognition for our hard work and open-minded attitudes, we criticize ourselves way too much. In the long run,
we are digging not only our own graves; but also, those of our kids and their kids.
That is the main message that I got from this article. That if we don't protect ourselves as Americans
first and as whites, blacks, etc later; then, we might as well lay down and die right now.
Keith
HeyBub
> toiyu...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> by Alan Stang
> <bullshit snipped>
>
>
> You can't compare S. Africa to the US. The US population of blacks is
> 13%. It's 80% in Africa...and there, the whites were the immigrants.
>
> <sheesh> Face it. You guys have run out of straws.
Uh, no. Most whites in South Africa can trace their linage back much farther
in South Africa than can virtually all the blacks. The early white settlers,
the Dutch, killed off most of the locals. The blacks now in South Africa are
descendants of immigrants who immigrated to the country to take advantage of
the economic success the Boers created.
Chris
> On Nov 6, 8:27 pm, toiyutur...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> by Alan Stang
>> November 6, 2008
>> NewsWithViews.com
>>
>> I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
>>
>
>
>
> Tom
Shame, perhaps.
Legitimate journalist, now this is an oxymoron.
trotsky
And we can safely assume you're not one of them. Rotfl!
INDY
> In article
> <8afc0180-003d-437b-83fc-0749b063d...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
> > Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
>
> Because in many parts of the world, being politically incorrect can get
> you hacked to pieces.
Yeah, like San Francisco!
INDY
> In article <atropos-03F6F6.22001906112...@news.giganews.com>,
>
> Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <8afc0180-003d-437b-83fc-0749b063d...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > > > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > > > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
>
> > > Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
>
> > Because in many parts of the world, being politically incorrect can get
> > you hacked to pieces.
>
> Most deservedly, too.
Sieg heil!
INDY
> In article <wool-pulling-C88298.04592407112...@news.supernews.com>,
> Dick Cheney <wool-pull...@peoples.eye> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <atropos-03F6F6.22001906112...@news.giganews.com>,
> > Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <8afc0180-003d-437b-83fc-0749b063d...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > > > > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > > > > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
>
> > > > Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
>
> > > Because in many parts of the world, being politically
> > > incorrect can get you hacked to pieces.
>
> > Most deservedly, too.
>
> Ah, so this is the new tolerant Left? Say the wrong thing and be
> executed?
>
> Fantastic!
The hypocrisy is amazing, isn;t it?
clouddreamer
Surely, you're joking. An inability to trace lineage means nothing in a
country where the blacks were treated like slaves for centuries. Where
they were denied basic rights like education.
The operative word that you used is "settlers."
The whites were NEVER native to South Africa.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Benj
> That is the main message that I got from this article. That if we don't protect ourselves as Americans
> first and as whites, blacks, etc later; then, we might as well lay down and die right now.
This is EXACTLY the message that all Americans need to hear. But I'm
not worried. While there are some recent African Immigrants here and
there has been a huge push from the power-elite to convince black
Americans that they are "Africans" first and Americans second, it's an
uphill battle. Life is simply too easy here even for the dirt poor.
American culture too pervasive. As a result the leftist power push has
been to import millions of Hispanics directly from their cultures
while being encouraged not to adopt American ideals through providing
services in Spanish throughout American Society in spite of the dire
Canadian experience with attempts at bilingualism in a country.
But in my experience we really don't have that much to worry about
from black Americans. I recall this time when I was invited to play
African drums at the "grand opening" of a new African artifact store.
So we are all there playing drums and singing African songs and having
a good time. There was also a large crowd of ordinary black citizens
who showed up out of curiosity. We invited them to join in the music,
song and dance (as would happen in an African village). Sorry. Almost
without exception they had no rhythm, and were all acting just like
clueless Americans! And then for the first time it hit me between the
eyes! They ARE clueless Americans! In spite of efforts to convince
them to adopt African names, and say they are "African" first and all
the rest, growing up in America automatically gives you American
culture and makes you American! The black skin is totally misleading
as an indicator of culture. Some major influences such as Bill Cosby
have seen through the "black culture" scams of Jesse Jackson and the
like and have been strong voices for the "Americans first" ideal.
And THAT is the main difference between blacks (even leftist blacks)
in this country and those found in South Africa. Where the analog
REALLY lies is among Hispanic "infiltrators" who did NOT grow up in
the American Culture. Did not go to high school here or learn our
ways, our sports, our music and the rest. They live in isolated
enclaves while here which only re-enforces retention of their former
culture. In America THAT is where the swords are!
Truth...@nospam.net
Like all right wingers, he gets everything ass backwards.
> ..
Rich
"Tom" <drs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tom
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And who knows it could be the work of the jalous devil........>
Rightards.
HeyBub
Nonsense. While the residents of San Francisco can kill a man, it would take
weeks.
Stephan Rothstein
And Simon Jester is about to start writing here in the US. Adam Selene
told me so.
Steve Rothstein
Dick Cheney
Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <wool-pulling-C882...@news.supernews.com>,
> Dick Cheney <wool-p...@peoples.eye> wrote:
>
> > In article <atropos-03F6F6...@news.giganews.com>,
> > Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <8afc0180-003d-437b...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
> > > > > journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
> > > > > parliament, still reside in South Africa.)
> > >
> > > > Why would a legitimate journalist need a pseudonym?
> > >
> > > Because in many parts of the world, being politically
> > > incorrect can get you hacked to pieces.
> >
> > Most deservedly, too.
>
> Ah, so this is the new tolerant Left? Say the wrong thing and be
> executed?
>
> Fantastic!
Calling Dick Cheney left? He knows where you live.
Thanatos
trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
WTF? When did I ever claim to be a journalist? You're not even coherent
anymore.