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"A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien". Cannot be disputed.

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Ted

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Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
citizens from the invasion.
Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by
homicides and drunken illegal
alien drivers.

ted

http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance

trijcomm

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Doesn't that mean that American citizens are a bigger threat since
more citizens are involved than illegals?

NiGHTS

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What's Superman's US Citizenship status?

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I feel asleep!

"If Gods so fuckin' perfect why'd he fuck up on you?"

Patriot Games

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"Ted" <tedo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
> citizens from the invasion.

Here's who voted FOR or AGAINST Criminal Beaner Amnesty:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00235

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session as compiled through
Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of
the Senate.

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on S.1639 )
Vote Number: 235 Vote Date: June 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Measure Number: S. 1639
Measure Title: A bill to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and
for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 46
NAYs 53
Not Voting 1

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Coleman (R-MN), Nay
Collins (R-ME), Nay
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Nay
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
DeMint (R-SC), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Smith (R-OR), Nay
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Sununu (R-NH), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (R-VA), Nay
Webb (D-VA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46
Akaka (D-HI)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---53
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brown (D-OH)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Landrieu (D-LA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)

Not Voting - 1
Johnson (D-SD)

Grouped by Home State
Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Nay
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Nay Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Nay Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Nay McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Nay Tester (D-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay Dole (R-NC), Nay
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Nay Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Yea Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Nay Graham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Corker (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Yea Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Nay Webb (D-VA), Nay
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Nay Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Nay Enzi (R-WY), Nay

Patriot Games

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"NiGHTS" <nightsintodr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ted wrote:
>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
>> citizens from the invasion.
>> Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by
>> homicides and drunken illegal
>> alien drivers.
>> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance
> What's Superman's US Citizenship status?
> NiGHTS/Nightcrawler [mWo]
> I feel asleep!
> "If Gods so fuckin' perfect why'd he fuck up on you?"

Shut the fuck up Limey!


F~A~R~V~A: Cowboy in the Jungle

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Since America was stolen from the Indians, I would have to say anyone
who isn't an Indian is an illegal alien. By the way, most Mexicans
have Indian blood so they qualify to be here.

Rod Speed

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Bush and Cheney cuddle while watching torture tapes <goof...@gmail.com> wrote
> Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
>> citizens from the invasion.

>> Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed
>> last year by homicides and drunken illegal alien drivers.

>> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance

> Since America was stolen from the Indians,

Who 'stole' it from those who were there before them, and exterminated them too.

> I would have to say anyone who isn't an Indian is an illegal alien.

Nope, just an alien.

> By the way, most Mexicans have Indian blood so they qualify to be here.

Nope.


Ace

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"NiGHTS" <nightsintodr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ted wrote:
>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect
>> American
>> citizens from the invasion.
>> Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by
>> homicides and drunken illegal
>> alien drivers.
>>
>> ted
>>
>> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance
>
> What's Superman's US Citizenship status?

The same as jesus?


Hal Womack 3-dan

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JEWS TRY KOSOVO REPLAY ON MEXICAN BORDER

By Hal Womack 3-dan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/halwomack/
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack

Is "Ted" the pen-name for Jared Taylor? Otherwise JT might be well
advised
to declare in a timely fashion his position WRT his felonious fan
here.

The title of this thread constitutes incitement to murder. The
cowardly "Ted" dares
such a crime precisely because we Americans suffer under a tyranny
that has murdered some 9,000,000 souls in Afghanistan and Iraq alone
since
1990. Yet Fake Ted's very namelessness reveals its well-founded dread
that
our rainbow human race will IFOT or "In the Fullness Of Time" turn
upon and
rend Rabbi Yona Metzger, the Bronfmen, Clintons, Bushes and other
bloody gangsters
who now perch in the highest offices of the empire.

==============================================================

On Mar 12, 2:18 am, "Ace" <f...@fake.com> wrote:
> "NiGHTS" <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

================================

My Hot Links:

Abir Aramin, age 9, murdered by the Jews
on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, her picture:
http://tinyurl.com/2l6ogh
An Israeli mother, a Jewess, comments on the story:
http://tinyurl.com/3amvos
http://www.rafahtoday.org/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h3P7POHnJc
...............................................................

Here's the link to what I wrote on the eve of SonnaBush's (fronting
for Aerial Shaboom) invasion of Iraq:
http://tinyurl.com/2xcvdo

(The tag end of the piece was stuck on rather roughly by the HANDSTAND
editor & could profit from a bit of pruning.)

If any reader can find another article from that critical moment which
has better stood the test of time, will she please be so kind as to
tell me about it?
...........................................................................
For Susan Abulhawa's new novel of Palestine, SCAR OF DAVID (2006)
http://www.scarofdavid.com/blog/index.php?page_id=5
OR
http://tinyurl.com/2n77bo
...................................................................

http://www.americanfreepress.net/

FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael Collins Piper, first published in 1994 and
now in its 6th edition, lays out the Jewish background to the JFK hit
in >600 fascinating pages (which badly need editing, evenso --attn:
M&W).

(See the AFP site above also for the moving letter of 29 November 2006
from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, directly addressed to
"Noble Americans" --maybe your local jewspaper forgot to pass it along
to you?)

On the AFP site linked above I just now (Tuesday 071211)
found the following Michael More out-take from Sicko about a certain
northern country:
http://tinyurl.com/23zgxu
.....................................................................

Five Principal Joojingo or "JJ" resources:
1. http://www.aipac.org/
2. The Bronfmen @ http://www.acbp.net/
3. http://www.jinsa.org/home/home.html
4. http://www.adl.org/
5. http://www.hasbara.co.il/

Four Righteous Jewish Antidotes:
1. http://www.ostrovskyfineart.com/index.htm
2. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
3. http://www.israelshamir.net/
4. http://tinyurl.com/3c9jm8 OR
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/18/136217
........................................................

US Alliance Afghan Genocide -
Six Million Excess Deaths?

By Dr Gideon Polya

08 November, 2007 Countercurrents.org

http://tinyurl.com/36ylq2 OR

http://www.countercurrents.org/polya081107.htm

..........................................................................

All rise,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A
http://www.counterpunch.org/dolby04032007.html
This clip was the first time I ever saw Marvin Gaye perform. The word
in my mind = "composure".
..........................................................................
Kidz Today:
A) Iron Maiden The Trooper By Gauchos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4aGXTHo7w&mode=related&search
B) The Impeach Bush Club Parade
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4606006427048738351
...............................................................
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Flag of USrael:
http://www.nogw.com/images/inminds.jpg
http://www.ussliberty.org/
http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm
http://www.jewwatch.com/
http://margaritaville.com/
[cartoon panel]
http://tinyurl.com/2kyyc9 OR
http://www.miqel.com/images_1/random_image/r1/get-your-war-on2.gif
.............................................
http://www.hizbollah.org/
http://tinyurl.com/2r3stp
http://peyote.com/gardening-pictures/peyote.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/3dlhhb
http://www.currentissues.tv/
http://www.waco93.com/
("Nadine Eats Pizza in Ramallah")
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Contributor47.htm
http://tinyurl.com/yqd75d (Akaber Zaid)
http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html
http://vcnv.org/
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=491
http://www.americanempireproject.com/index.asp
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/dbaby4.jpg
http://www.nelsonmandela.org/
http://www.parnasse.com/gaia.jpg
http://www.sf911truth.org/
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.valleyofthewolvesiraq.com/high/main.html
http://www.johnkaminski.com/
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/index.php
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.infowars.com/
http://english.wafa.ps/default.asp
http://www.araboo.com/site/arab-aaug-asq-9777
http://www.al-awda.org/
http://www.imemc.org/
http://www.vcnv.org/
http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/3301/58/
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.cnionline.org/
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
http://prorev.com/indexa.htm
http://www.thankyoult.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
http://www.marwenmedia.com/index.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
http://www.thehandstand.org/
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
http://tinyurl.com/79t3d
http://tinyurl.com/yt4tym ("Let It Be!")

http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150 for "free your mind, the rest will
follow".
............................................................................................
Protocol: Top posting in follow-ups 'cause that way makes most sense
to me
and placing the reply at the bottom of the thread as it appears on my
Google newsreader. BTW does some friendly expert want to recommend a
better newsreader aka Usenet access tool,
especially for posting, then I'm all ear.

Patriot Games

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"Bush and Cheney cuddle while watching torture tapes." <goof...@gmail.com>
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> On Mar 11, 12:53 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
>> citizens from the invasion.
>> Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by
>> homicides and drunken illegal
>> alien drivers.
> Since America was stolen from the Indians

It was a fair fight, they lost, we didn't steal anything.

> By the way, most Mexicans
> have Indian blood so they qualify to be here.

If most Mexicans have Indian blood then we already kicked their ass. That
gives us the right to use them for medical research, slave labor, anything
we want.

The Real Bev

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Bush and Cheney cuddle while watching torture tapes. wrote:

> On Mar 11, 12:53 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American
>> citizens from the invasion.
>> Estimates range from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by
>> homicides and drunken illegal
>> alien drivers.
>>

>> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance
>
> Since America was stolen from the Indians, I would have to say anyone
> who isn't an Indian is an illegal alien. By the way, most Mexicans
> have Indian blood so they qualify to be here.

Aren't the Indians descended from people who traveled east over the land
bridge from Asia to Alaska? And didn't those people supposedly
originate in Africa?

Every chunk of land on earth was owned by different people at one time.
Right now this particular chunk belongs to us and we ought to have the
right to invite in or keep out anybody we (collectively, of course) want to.

--
Cheers, Bev
*****************************************************************
"Why does everybody always forget the eigthth dwarf? Just because
poor old Lumpy died of cancer doesn't mean he should be written
out of history." -- RMassey

Rod Speed

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The Real Bev <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote

> Bush and Cheney cuddle while watching torture tapes. wrote
>> Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> Never forget, never forgive those who have failed to protect American citizens from the invasion. Estimates range
>>> from 3 to 5,000 Americans killed last year by homicides and drunken illegal alien drivers.

>>> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance

>> Since America was stolen from the Indians, I would have to say anyone who isn't an Indian is an illegal alien. By
>> the way, most Mexicans have Indian blood so they qualify to be here.

> Aren't the Indians descended from people who traveled east over the land bridge from Asia to Alaska?

Yep, and there is some evidence that there were others there
before they did that, and that they esssentially exterminated those.

> And didn't those people supposedly originate in Africa?

Yep.

> Every chunk of land on earth was owned by different people at one time.

Yep.

> Right now this particular chunk belongs to us and we ought to have the right to invite in or keep out anybody we
> (collectively, of course) want to.

Yep.


uri

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On Mar 13, 5:27 am, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Every chunk of land on earth was owned by different people at one time.

> Right now this particular chunk belongs to us and we ought to have the
> right to invite in or keep out anybody we (collectively, of course) want to.

Since the earth and its land belongs equally to all humanity, everyone
has a right to be where he wants without asking permission from
anyone.

DCI

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Mar 13, 2008, 10:44:51 AM3/13/08
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"uri" <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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Try setting up camp on land I own and see how well you do with your idea
of "everyone has a right to be where he wants without permission from
anyone."

DCI


Rod Speed

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Mar 13, 2008, 2:22:55 PM3/13/08
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uri <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote

Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.


uri

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Mar 13, 2008, 2:31:45 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 8:22 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

You're the only one evoking pity with your greed and arrogance.
Everyone has an equal right to land. No one has a right to more land
than another.

Rod Speed

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:26:28 PM3/13/08
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uri <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote

>> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

> You're the only one evoking pity with your greed and arrogance.

SURE, comrade.

> Everyone has an equal right to land. No one has a right to more land than another.

Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.


William Souden

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:32:40 PM3/13/08
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We know that Rod has never lost a job to an illegal immigrant.

William Souden
Sales fool/racetrack bum

uri

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:22:15 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 9:26 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

What's your problem with giving everyone equal amouns of land so there
will no inequalities in land?

uri

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:24:45 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 9:26 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

What's your problem with giving everyone equal amouns of land so there
will be no inequalities in land? Why isn't it possible to give
everyone equal amounts of land?

DCI

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:34:50 PM3/13/08
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"uri" <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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This is a middle school social science question, right?

DCI


Rod Speed

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Mar 13, 2008, 5:02:00 PM3/13/08
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uri <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote

>> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

> What's your problem with giving everyone equal
> amouns of land so there will be no inequalities in land?

Because the real world dont work like that.

And when I paid for my land, why should bums like you get land for free ?

> Why isn't it possible to give everyone equal amounts of land?

Its possible, but it works a hell of a lot better the way its currently done, comrade.


William Souden

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Mar 13, 2008, 5:06:28 PM3/13/08
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This from a poster who needs welfare to cover basic expenses.

Patriot Games

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Mar 13, 2008, 5:38:42 PM3/13/08
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"uri" <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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> On Mar 13, 8:22 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Everyone has an equal right to land.

Hahahahahahahahahah!!!

> No one has a right to more land than another.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

When Dogs Run Free

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Mar 14, 2008, 10:12:15 AM3/14/08
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In article <63tdf6F...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed at
rod.sp...@gmail.com says...

I don't see anything "real" about your world. Your fantasy is just
shared by more in the U.S. than his fantasy. But not all of us worship
Mammon and live on greed, arrogance and hatred. Other peoples in other
places and in other times didn't think like you, and were happier.

What's truly pathetic is your lust for material gain at all cost,
Happiness to you is owning stuff.

Now, that's pathetic.

"How can you buy or sell the sky, the warmth of the land? The
idea is strange to us.

If we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the
water, how can you buy them?

Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shining
pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every
clearing and humming insect is holy in the memory and experience of my
people. The sap which courses through the trees carries the memories
of the red man.

The white man=3Fs dead forget the country of their birth when they
go to walk among the stars. Our dead never forget this beautiful
earth, for it is the mother of the red man. We are part of the earth
and it is part of us. The perfumed flowers are our sisters; the deer,
the horse, the great eagle, these are our brothers. The rocky crests,
the juices in the meadows, the body heat of the pony, and man--all
belong to the same family.

So, when the Great Chief in Washington sends words that he wishes
to buy our land, he asks much of us. The Great Chief sends word he
will reserve us a place so that we can live comfortably to ourselves.
He will be our father and we will be his children.

So we will consider your offer to buy our land. But it will not
be easy. For this land is sacred to us. This shining water that moves
in the streams and rivers is not just water but the blood of our
ancestors. If we sell you land, you must remember that it is sacred,
and you must teach your children that it is sacred and that each
ghostly reflection in the clear water of the lakes tells of events and
memories in the life of my people. The water=3Fs murmur is the voice of
my father=3Fs father.

The rivers are our brothers, they quench our thirst. The rivers
carry our canoes, and feed our children. If we sell you our land, you
must remember, and teach your children, that the rivers are our
brothers and yours, and you must henceforth give the rivers the
kindness you would give any brother.

We know that the white man does not understand our ways. One
portion of land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger
who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs. The
earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it,
he moves on. He leaves his father=3Fs grave behind, and he does not
care. He kidnaps the earth from his children, and he does not care.
His father=3Fs grave, and his children=3Fs birthright are forgotten. He
treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be
bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads. His appetite will
devour the earth and leave behind only a desert.

I do not know. Our ways are different from your ways. The sight
of your cities pains the eyes of the red man. There is no quiet place
in the white man=3Fs cities. No place to hear the unfurling of leaves in
spring or the rustle of the insect=3Fs wings. The clatter only seems to
insult the ears. And what is there to life if a man cannot hear the
lonely cry of the whippoorwill or the arguments of the frogs around the
ponds at night? I am a red man and do not understand. The Indian
prefers the soft sound of the wind darting over the face of a pond and
the smell of the wind itself, cleansed by a midday rain, or scented
with pinyon pine.

The air is precious to the red man for all things share the same
breath, the beast, the tree, the man, they all share the same breath.
The white man does not seem to notice the air he breathes. Like a man
dying for many days he is numb to the stench. But if we sell you our
land, you must remember that the air is precious to us, that the air
shares its spirit with all the life it supports.

The wind that gave our grandfather his first breath also receives
his last sigh. And if we sell you our land, you must keep it apart and
sacred as a place where even the white man can go to taste the wind
that is sweetened by the meadow=3Fs flowers.

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet
is the ashes of our grandfathers. So that they will respect the land,
tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children that we have taught our children that the earth is
our mother. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves.

This we know: the earth does not belong to man; man belongs to
the earth. All things are connected. We may be brothers after all.
We shall see. One thing we know which the white man may someday
discover: our god is the same god.

You may think now that you own him as you wish to own our land;
but you cannot. He is the god of man, and his compassion is equal for
the red man and the white. This earth is precious to him, and to harm
the earth is to heap contempt on its creator. The whites too shall
pass; perhaps sooner than all other tribes. Contaminate your bed and
you will one night suffocate in your own waste.

But in your perishing you will shine brightly fired by the
strength of the god who brought you to this land and for some special
purpose gave you dominion over this land and over the red man.

That destiny is a mystery to us, for we do not understand when
the buffalo are all slaughtered, the wild horses are tame, the secret
corners of the forest heavy with the scent of many men and the view of
the ripe hills blotted by talking wires.

Where is the thicket? Gone. Where is the eagle? Gone.

The end of living and the beginning of survival."

Rod Speed

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When Dogs Run Free <wd...@woof.org> wrote
> Rod Speed rod.sp...@gmail.com wrote

>> uri <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

>>> You're the only one evoking pity with your greed and arrogance.

>> SURE, comrade.

>>> Everyone has an equal right to land. No one has a right to more land than another.

>> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.

> I don't see anything "real" about your world.

Then your eyes need testing, BAD.

> Your fantasy

Mine isnt a fantasy, its reality, fool.

> is just shared by more in the U.S. than his fantasy.

By vastly more in fact.

> But not all of us worship Mammon and live on greed, arrogance and hatred.

And plenty have a clue about what works land ownership wise too.

> Other peoples in other places and in other times didn't think like you,

Yep, there are always some fools around.

> and were happier.

How odd that not one society that ever did it his way has ever survived for long.

> What's truly pathetic is your lust for material gain at all cost,

Thats just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

> Happiness to you is owning stuff.

Wrong, as always. And his involves owning 'stuff' too.

> Now, that's pathetic.

Cant even manage its own lines.

<reams of your completely mindless waffle flushed where it belongs>


When Dogs Run Free

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Mar 17, 2008, 11:05:56 AM3/17/08
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In article <63vspuF...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed at
rod.sp...@gmail.com says...

> When Dogs Run Free <wd...@woof.org> wrote
> > Rod Speed rod.sp...@gmail.com wrote
> >> uri <dan...@bezeqint.net> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.
>
> >>> You're the only one evoking pity with your greed and arrogance.
>
> >> SURE, comrade.
>
> >>> Everyone has an equal right to land. No one has a right to more land than another.
>
> >> Then there's the real world outside you pathetic little fantasyland.
>
> > I don't see anything "real" about your world.
>
> Then your eyes need testing, BAD.
>
> > Your fantasy
>
> Mine isnt a fantasy, its reality, fool.
>
> > is just shared by more in the U.S. than his fantasy.
>
> By vastly more in fact.
>
> > But not all of us worship Mammon and live on greed, arrogance and hatred.
>
> And plenty have a clue about what works land ownership wise too.
>
> > Other peoples in other places and in other times didn't think like you,
>
> Yep, there are always some fools around.
>
> > and were happier.
>
> How odd that not one society that ever did it his way has ever survived for long.

5,000 years not long enough for you, turd brain?

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