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Craig

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Jun 29, 2008, 8:02:42 PM6/29/08
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Greetings,

I just donated pint #84 today. In addition to getting a free ticket to the
top of the Flagstaff AZ's San Francisco Peaks on the ski lift this summer
and being entered into a contest to win a car (plus the usual check to make
sure I'm not anemic, I don't have HIV or any STD, etc.), I see that my blood
bank also now measures donated blood for total cholesterol and will let me
check my results online in a few days.

Do we have any blood bank people around? I wonder if the total cholesterol
measurement serves some purpose to the blood banking folks or if it's just a
service being offered to the donor. Anyone know? From what I read, they'll
send donors a notice by mail if their total cholesterol is 300+ while
anything under 300 requires the donor to take the initiative to check the
BB's web site to check--with a suggestion that donors check with their
family doc if their test results are over 200.

Craig


hchi...@hotmail.com

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Jun 29, 2008, 9:25:48 PM6/29/08
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The cholesterol count doesn't mean squat unless you arrive fasting.
IMO, cholesterol counts don't mean much anyway until they get 300+.

Statins as a preventative measure for first heart attacks are NOT what
the drug companies would like you to believe. I believe the stats are
that statins MIGHT eliminate the first event in one in one hundred
twenty-eight users. Other studies have concluded that statins act as
an ersatz vitamin D, and that using vitamin D instead of statins is
not only cheaper but more effective over a wider range of diseases..

Check this month's Discover mag for some plain talk about the statins.
Among other things, lowering your cholesterol too much can make you
stupid.- LITERALLY. It is used by the brain.

My take is that the skin cancer folks got the media attention and got
everyone to slather on sunscreen (at expense) and, if smart, take cod
liver oil (at expense), which drove up cholesterol levels, which
provided a double play for drug companies promoting statins (at
expense). The frugal alternative, get a reasonable amount of sun in
slowly increasing doses, take cod liver oil in the winter, and screw
the drug companies.

Btw, Thanks for the reminder, I'm past due for my pint of donation.


h

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Jun 30, 2008, 9:37:17 AM6/30/08
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"Craig" <wp...@invalid.us> wrote in message
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Worrying about cholesterol is a total croc. When I was a vegan my
cholesterol was over 350. At the time, I ate nothing on the list my doc gave
me to "cut out" of my diet. Once I went back to a sane diet of almost no
carbs and mostly protein and fat (virtually everything on the "cut out "
list), my cholesterol dropped to 165, with no other changes in lifestyle.
Frankly, I couldn't care less what my cholesterol level is and I have no
idea since I haven't seen a doctor since my 20s, some 30 years ago. Doctors
don't know anything.


clams_casino

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Jun 30, 2008, 10:58:47 AM6/30/08
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h wrote:

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>Worrying about cholesterol is a total croc. When I was a vegan my
>cholesterol was over 350. At the time, I ate nothing on the list my doc gave
>me to "cut out" of my diet. Once I went back to a sane diet of almost no
>carbs and mostly protein and fat (virtually everything on the "cut out "
>list), my cholesterol dropped to 165, with no other changes in lifestyle.
>Frankly, I couldn't care less what my cholesterol level is and I have no
>idea since I haven't seen a doctor since my 20s, some 30 years ago. Doctors
>don't know anything.
>
>
>
>

Aren't you the same poster who claims he can't tell the difference
between frozen vs. fresh meat, seafood, etc?

Lou

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Jun 30, 2008, 8:36:15 PM6/30/08
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"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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Well, I don't know if you're right or not, but I basically had your attitude
for 30-odd years, until I had chest pains walking to work one day and woke
up two days later with a triple bypass. In your case, we won't know if it's
a croc or not until we see what you die of.


val189

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Jul 2, 2008, 1:31:07 PM7/2/08
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On Jun 30, 9:37 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Craig" <w...@invalid.us> wrote in message
> idea since I haven't seen adoctorsince my 20s, some30yearsago. Doctors
> don't know anything.

Ever thought about your psa score?

Let me remind you of a friend who also boasted that he hadn't been to
a doctor in 25 years - and died in bed one night - coronary - widow
still angry that he might have prevented his untimely death.

h

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Jul 2, 2008, 8:01:54 PM7/2/08
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"val189" <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Umm, since I'm female, psa score not exactly high on my list of worries.


Don Klipstein

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Jul 3, 2008, 11:32:51 PM7/3/08
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In article <g4an2l$j09$1...@aioe.org>, h wrote in part:

>
>Worrying about cholesterol is a total croc. When I was a vegan my
>cholesterol was over 350. At the time, I ate nothing on the list my doc gave
>me to "cut out" of my diet. Once I went back to a sane diet of almost no
>carbs and mostly protein and fat (virtually everything on the "cut out "
>list), my cholesterol dropped to 165, with no other changes in lifestyle.

I give that hardly more credibility than I would give your claim
(in article <48133cb9$0$9551$4c368...@roadrunner.com> on April 28
2008) that most people will gain weight on a 1,000 calorie per day diet if
the calories are mostly carbs.

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

hchi...@hotmail.com

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Jul 6, 2008, 12:27:39 AM7/6/08
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:31:07 -0700 (PDT), val189
<gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Ever thought about your psa score?
>
>Let me remind you of a friend who also boasted that he hadn't been to
>a doctor in 25 years - and died in bed one night - coronary - widow
>still angry that he might have prevented his untimely death.

Last time I checked, those weren't related...

People die. I once had the wife of a janitor accuse me of killing her
husband by asking him to do his job. He happened to die of a coronary
within a month of my supervising him.

The Real Bev

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:09:49 PM7/11/08
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hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> People die. I once had the wife of a janitor accuse me of killing her
> husband by asking him to do his job. He happened to die of a coronary
> within a month of my supervising him.

Is "supervising" like "counseling heavily about the head and shoulders"?

--
Cheers, Bev
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Seerialmom

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:28:45 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 5, 9:27 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:31:07 -0700 (PDT), val189
>

Not that I agree with the wife of a janitor, but there are "some"
people who assign their stress issues to those around them (rather
than taking responsibility for their own reactions...of which stress
is one). Sometimes you can't prevent the reaction, it just
happens..like when a blood vessel in my eye burst because I was trying
to listen to a conference call and coworkers were making snide remarks
about the speaker (with their mute button on, of course). I could
feel my frustration rising but didn't know that happened until I
walked into the restroom later.

val189

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Jul 11, 2008, 6:25:38 PM7/11/08
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On Jul 6, 12:27 am, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Last time I checked, those weren't related...

I didn't mean to imply that they were. Next time, I'll type in
'Subject change'. I thought a new paragraph was enough. Oh, the
pitfalls of the written word....

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