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Susan

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Jul 16, 2008, 12:10:05 PM7/16/08
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I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.

Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?

What percentage of ammonia would you use?
Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?

Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?

David Remley

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Jul 16, 2008, 12:21:38 PM7/16/08
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:05 -0700, Susan wrote:
> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?

Windex isn't ammonia you idiot. It's alcohol!
http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/windex_glass_cleaner_blue.htm

And alcohol has no effect on the ant species. Use bleach instead.

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The Real Bev

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Jul 16, 2008, 12:55:34 PM7/16/08
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Susan wrote:

> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>
> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>
> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?

It doesn't at my house.

> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?

Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.

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h

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:31:13 PM7/16/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> Forget all of these nonsense quack cures. Go to any hardware store and
> get some TERRO. It will get rid of ALL the ants, not just the ones you
> happen to see.
>

Yup. Terro is it. It used to just come in a bottle and you had to apply it
to cardboard or those plastic ant traps that don't work. Now you can get it
in little plastic containers that you snip a hole in the bottom so the ants
can get in. They go in, sup of the poison, then take it back to kill off the
colony. I put some containers out in April and I've watched at least 5
different colonies get wiped out. Tiny red ones, and 4 sizes of black ones.
One container was completely full of giant black ants one morning. I only
noticed it because the container was actually moving, due to all the ants
inside. They emptied that container in 2 days, which is VERY fast. I never
saw them again.


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Hell Toupee

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:29:15 PM7/16/08
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h wrote:
> <sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
> news:k19s74tdbuj3f9cpe...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:21:38 -0700, David Remley
>> <david...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:05 -0700, Susan wrote:
>>>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage
>>>> that
>>>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>>> Windex isn't ammonia you idiot. It's alcohol!
>>> http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/windex_glass_cleaner_blue.htm
>>>
>>> And alcohol has no effect on the ant species. Use bleach instead.
>>
>> Forget all of these nonsense quack cures. Go to any hardware store and
>> get some TERRO. It will get rid of ALL the ants, not just the ones you
>> happen to see.
>>
>
> Yup. Terro is it. It used to just come in a bottle and you had to apply it
> to cardboard or those plastic ant traps that don't work.

Back then the active ingredient in Terro was arsenic.

Now you can get it
> in little plastic containers that you snip a hole in the bottom so the ants
> can get in.

Nowdays the active ingredient is boric acid. Still kills ants pretty
well, but it's a lot less hazardous to have around the house than
the arsenic was.

HellT

mkir...@rochester.rr.com

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:33:06 PM7/16/08
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On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, Susan <susanwilli...@aol.com> wrote:
> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>
> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?

You're not killing the ants with ammonia. You're drowning them with
liquid. A spray bottle of water will have the same effect.

> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?

Same way ammonia kills you.

> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?

Clean your house. Get rid of any exposed food or put it in sealed
containers. Vacuum up crumbs. Take kitchen scraps and plate scrapings
straight to the trash barrel outside. The ants are there because
there's food. Remove the food, and the ants will not have a reason to
be there, and they will go away.

Kill any stragglers with REAL ant killer. RAID.

Rod Speed

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:44:53 PM7/16/08
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Susan <susanw...@aol.com> wrote:

Yep, use an ant bait.


clams_casino

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Jul 16, 2008, 2:13:18 PM7/16/08
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David Remley wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:05 -0700, Susan wrote:
>
>
>>Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
>>it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>>
>>
>
>Windex isn't ammonia you idiot. It's alcohol!
>http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/windex_glass_cleaner_blue.htm
>
>
>
>

Be careful about calling someone an idiot.

While alcohol is its primary active ingredient, it does contain a small
amount of ammonia (unless you get the vinegar version). Note the
reference to having a slight ammonia odor.
Its label also states "with Ammonia-D" - an SC Johnson trade name for
some type of aqueous ammonia compound..

Wilm...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2008, 3:20:48 PM7/16/08
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Boric Acid is real cheap. Any hardware store will have it.

I had a friend who lived in Hollywood and she had a cochroach problem
that was insane. I was afraid to go in her apartment. I bought some
boric acid and applied it. A couple of days later she called to tell
me the roaches were still there and they seemed to be even bolder. I
went over a day or two later and then she told me they were starting
to die. What she thought was boldness was actually the roaches walking
around dazed and dying. I sat in her apartment and you could hear them
falling from the walls and hitting the floor, tic tic tic tic... She
was having troubles keeping up with the corpses, she was sweeping up
dustpans full.

She was not really a dirty person, she lived in Hollywood.

Steve Pope

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Jul 16, 2008, 6:54:43 PM7/16/08
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David Remley <david...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

There is some ammonia in Windex and similar products, which is
why it kills ants, but it is cheaper/better to just spray
an ammonia solution. It is interesting that ammonia is not
listed in the materials safety datasheet you reference, but
it is definitely there.

Ammonia solution is the best way I have found to kill ants interior
to a residence, since it not only kills them on contact but
neutralizes the formic acid they leave on their trails for
other ants to follow.

For ants external to a residence, I like Grant's ant stakes.

Steve

Harlan Messinger

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Jul 16, 2008, 7:33:09 PM7/16/08
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Yeah, bleach is a GREAT thing to get on the carpets.

willshak

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Jul 16, 2008, 8:09:12 PM7/16/08
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on 7/16/2008 7:33 PM Harlan Messinger said the following:
Maybe the carpets are already white? :-)

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The Real Bev

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Jul 16, 2008, 9:02:26 PM7/16/08
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sa...@dog.com wrote:

> <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Susan wrote:
>>
>>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
>>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
>>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>>>
>>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
>>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>>>
>>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
>>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
>>
>>It doesn't at my house.
>>
>>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
>>
>>Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
>>spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.
>

> Expensive?
>
> http://www.terro.com/products.php?product=liquid_ant_killer
>
> That's enough to keep your house ant free for many, many years.

I've only seen it in little trays that look kind of like
cheez-n-crackers packs for maybe a buck each. I tried mixing borax with
corn syrup, but it didn't work. Little bastards clearly know the
difference.

For instant gratification, you can't beat Home Defense. Well, you can,
but Raid stinks.

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Rod Speed

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Jul 16, 2008, 8:56:31 PM7/16/08
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ye tooted:

> I hate these antidepressants. They give me sexual problems and bad
> dreams.

The Real Bev

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Jul 16, 2008, 9:07:26 PM7/16/08
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mkir...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, Susan <susanwilli...@aol.com> wrote:
>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>>
>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>
> You're not killing the ants with ammonia. You're drowning them with
> liquid. A spray bottle of water will have the same effect.
>
>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
>
> Same way ammonia kills you.
>
>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
>
> Clean your house.

Yeah, right.

> Get rid of any exposed food or put it in sealed
> containers. Vacuum up crumbs. Take kitchen scraps and plate scrapings
> straight to the trash barrel outside. The ants are there because
> there's food. Remove the food, and the ants will not have a reason to
> be there, and they will go away.

They also go after water and some of them, apparently, just like
marching. I can see no other reason they'd come in from behind a
faucet, march around the rim of the bathtub, and then leave.

> Kill any stragglers with REAL ant killer. RAID.

Raid stinks and leaves oily spots. Use Home Defense.

Gene S. Berkowitz

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Jul 16, 2008, 11:17:52 PM7/16/08
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In article <GSwfk.5329$Na....@newsfe07.iad>, bashley101
+use...@gmail.com says...

> sa...@dog.com wrote:
>
> > <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Susan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
> >>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
> >>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
> >>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
> >>>
> >>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
> >>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
> >>
> >>It doesn't at my house.
> >>
> >>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
> >>
> >>Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
> >>spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.
> >
> > Expensive?
> >
> > http://www.terro.com/products.php?product=liquid_ant_killer
> >
> > That's enough to keep your house ant free for many, many years.
>
> I've only seen it in little trays that look kind of like
> cheez-n-crackers packs for maybe a buck each. I tried mixing borax with
> corn syrup, but it didn't work. Little bastards clearly know the
> difference.

Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
solidify.

Too much boric acid is gritty to the ants, and they'll avoid it.

I filled a small container lid with that mixture, and the ants were ten
deep trying to get to it. They worked for 3 days and left it totally
clean. They didn't come back.

--Gene

The Real Bev

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Jul 17, 2008, 12:06:49 AM7/17/08
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Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:

> bashley1...@gmail.com says...

Syrup, grease and boric acid oughta get 'em all, then. All I have is
butter and various vegetable oils. I think the butter would do best.

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David Remley

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Jul 17, 2008, 2:03:14 AM7/17/08
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT), Wilm...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
> Boric Acid is real cheap. Any hardware store will have it.

You're all a bunch of bloomin idiots!

You can't kill the invincible Argentine ant where I come from here in
California with Terro or boric acid or arsenic or anything else.

What brings these ants in and out of your house is the weather.

If you think Terro or boric acid is going to change the weather, then by
all means, have a blast. But you're wasting your time and effort.

Says so right here:
http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/Pesticides-Wont-Stop-em.htm

The Argentine ant has multiple queens and the workers can go to any nest,
so, you can't kill 'em off just by dissolving 1 teaspoon (5 mL) powdered
boric acid and 10 teaspoons (50 mL) sugar into 2 cups (500 mL) of water;
this mixture can then be absorbed into cotton balls which are left near ant
trails.

David Remley

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Jul 17, 2008, 2:24:34 AM7/17/08
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:17:52 GMT, Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:

> Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
> Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
> solidify.

Idiots all!

Whilst some ants aim for protein, like dried semen stains the bedsheets,
others prefer sweet things, like sugar crumbs under the table. Still others
go for live insects, still wriggling, and some go for dead insects, dried
up and crunchy.

However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous - they'll eat
just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.

Hence they wipe out the indigenous ant population.
Says so right here:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2005/1401834.htm

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jme...@columbus.rr.com

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Jul 17, 2008, 7:49:25 AM7/17/08
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On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, Susan <susanwilli...@aol.com> wrote:
> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms

Can anyone spell TROLL?

Nicik Name

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Jul 17, 2008, 11:00:58 PM7/17/08
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"Susan" <susanw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>
> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage
> that
> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>
> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
>
> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
RAID?


Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

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Jul 19, 2008, 3:57:19 AM7/19/08
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If you want something absolutely nontoxic, putting pepper (black, white,
or cayenne) or cinnamon around their trails will leave them confused,
and they will leave. You can then vacuum up the pepper or cinnamon

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"Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply" <sam...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote in
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> If you want something absolutely nontoxic, putting pepper (black, white,
> or cayenne) or cinnamon around their trails will leave them confused, and
> they will leave. You can then vacuum up the pepper or cinnamon

We used the cinnamon idea quite successfully for years of medieval camping
(canvas tent, no floor) and it kept out most critters while making the tent
smell good. You can use the stuff from the dollar store.


Mike Copeland

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Jul 19, 2008, 6:01:37 PM7/19/08
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> However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous -
they'll eat
> just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
> multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.

Multiple queens......only in california!!

Sorry couldn't resist :)

01dyna

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Jul 19, 2008, 7:35:29 PM7/19/08
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ROFLAO!

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