Frugal hi speed internet?
nons...@mynonsense.net
is raising the price to $60/ month but it includes basic cable which I
dont care for. I notice AT&T has a $20/ month plan. Does one need to
have a landline for that? If not, how much does the final bill end up
being after taxes and everything?
Goomba
Is there any reason you haven't asked AT&T that question?
nons...@mynonsense.net
I asked and didn't understand their cryptic answer. I then read their
T&C's and it seemed to say you need ATT phone service.
Jeff
AT&T is perfectly opaque.
Depending on where you are, they may offer a discounted plan. They do
where I am as part of the terms of taking over Bell South.
Part of their agreement here was to offer such a landlineless
service, what is referred to as naked DSL. They make it hard to find
this option as they really don't want you to have it and in fact fought
it in court for a long time.
These discounts are for new customers only. So, you have to get this
right on signup, for if you sign up without finding the correct option,
you are no longer a new customer.
My girlfriend did a similar deal with them and they switched her to a
"better" plan and the deal went away. It took me 3 months and more than
one call to a supervisor before I got this "fixed".
I hate them, I really truly hate them.
Jeff
catalpa
<nons...@mynonsense.net> wrote in message
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You want DSL dry loop. You probably have to fight with AT&T to get it.
Here is year old information:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/How-to-Get-2399-ATT-Dry-Loop-DSL-87863
catalpa
"catalpa" <cat...@entertab.org> wrote in message
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After I posted that I noticed that AT&T calls it "AT&T Direct DSL" and sells
it at www.connecttoatt.com .
Gordon
98733f...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
Usually DSL is piggy backed onto the Landline (POTS) service.
The best pricing for DSL is available if there is also POTS
service on the line. Without POTS, the price of DSL goes up.
I don't know about AT&T, but with Verizon, the price of
DSL w/o POTS is only a buck cheaper than DSL + POTS.
Other options for frugal internet are to share your neighbors
Wi-fi. But don't steal it. Make an arrangement and agree to
pay part of their internet service.
I think I remamber that someone in this group was (still is?)
getting wi-fi access from AT&T through his local McD's.
Check the web sites of the various cell phone providers. Many
of them will have internet over cell service. The most common
service is via an Air Card. But that is also the most expensive.
There are also Phone as Modem plans that can be less expensive.
All you need is the proper phone, but you can get one pretty
cheap off of e-bay.
George Grapman
When I switched to DSL the savings on dropping the extra land line
was something like $2 a month so I decided to keep in case there was
ever a problem with my main phone. The modem number is not listed and I
never give it out so when it rings it is a wrong number or,more often a
telemarketer. I usually ignore it but every so often I say"Federal Trade
Commission,phone fraud unit,may I help you?" and hear a click.
Shawn Hirn
<ae1ef6e7-7a2f-41e7...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
nons...@mynonsense.net wrote:
One option to consider is to keep your current Internet service, but buy
a wi-fi router and let some neighbors use it in return for helping to
pay your monthly Internet service bills.
Lou
"Shawn Hirn" <sr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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For whatever it's worth, such an arrangement probably conflicts with the
terms of service. If your neighbor brings his/her laptop over to your house
is OK, but to set yourself up as a mini-ISP is not.
The Real Bev
> I am looking for cheap hi-speed internet. My current provider, Comcast
> is raising the price to $60/ month but it includes basic cable which I
> dont care for.
Try haggling. I pay $30/month for 5Mb cablemodem service. No TV, no
phone, just internet. You have to be willing to quit and you have to
make sure that they know it. If the first-level droid won't play, ask
to speak to its supervisor. "Your service just isn't worth that much"
and "Will you elevate this to the next tier?" seem to have some magical
meaning...
> I notice AT&T has a $20/ month plan. Does one need to
> have a landline for that? If not, how much does the final bill end up
> being after taxes and everything?
DSL. 756kb service. You get both. And at the end of 6 months you'll
have to haggle with them too.
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nons...@mynonsense.net
> "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote in message
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> news:urGqk.302$UX.76@trnddc03...
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> > <nonse...@mynonsense.net> wrote in message
> >news:ae1ef6e7-7a2f-41e7...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >>I am looking for cheap hi-speed internet. My current provider, Comcast
> >> is raising the price to $60/ month but it includes basic cable which I
> >> dont care for. I notice AT&T has a $20/ month plan. Does one need to
> >> have a landline for that? If not, how much does the final bill end up
> >> being after taxes and everything?
>
> > You want DSL dry loop. You probably have to fight with AT&T to get it.
>
> > Here is year old information:
>
> After I posted that I noticed that AT&T calls it "AT&T Direct DSL" and sells
> it atwww.connecttoatt.com.
Thanks, that's exactly what I am looking for! Anyone know if this 768
kpbs is good enough for VOIP with webcam?
Rod Speed
Yes it is.
JR Weiss
>
> Thanks, that's exactly what I am looking for! Anyone know if this 768
> kpbs is good enough for VOIP with webcam?
VOIP (e.g., Skype) is usable even at dial-up speeds, so the voice part will not
be a problem. You'll likely get very low frame rates on a web cam, especially
if it is a high-resolution camera.
For a quick analysis, a QVGA camera (320x240 pixels) uses 75 KiloBytes (KB) or
600 Kilobits (Kb) per frame for 8-bit color. Compression could easily reduce
that by 2/3, for 200 Kb per frame. That would allow about 3 frames per second.
Monochrome could give a significantly higher frame rate.
Gordon
@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com:
> The modem number is not listed and I
> never give it out so when it rings it is a wrong number or,more often a
> telemarketer. I usually ignore it but every so often I say"Federal Trade
> Commission,phone fraud unit,may I help you?" and hear a click.
>
ROTFLMAO!!
Gordon
news:7ca521ac-8172-4a6a...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 19, 3:58 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
>> "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote in message
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>> news:urGqk.302$UX.76@trnddc03...
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>>
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>> > <nonse...@mynonsense.net> wrote in message
>> >news:ae1ef6e7-7a2f-41e7-ac3f-
98733f...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
>> >...
>> >>I am looking for cheap hi-speed internet. My current provider,
>> >>Comcast
>> >> is raising the price to $60/ month but it includes basic cable
>> >> which I dont care for. I notice AT&T has a $20/ month plan. Does
>> >> one need to have a landline for that? If not, how much does the
>> >> final bill end up being after taxes and everything?
>>
>> > You want DSL dry loop. You probably have to fight with AT&T to get
>> > it.
>>
>> > Here is year old information:
>> >http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/How-to-Get-2399-ATT-Dry-Loop-DSL-
8
>> >...
>>
>> After I posted that I noticed that AT&T calls it "AT&T Direct DSL"
>> and sells it atwww.connecttoatt.com.
>
> Thanks, that's exactly what I am looking for! Anyone know if this 768
> kpbs is good enough for VOIP with webcam?
768 is the downstream (to you) speed. It's plenty fast for most any
use. I watch TV on my computer with a 768 DSL connection. But, double
check to see what the upstream speed is. It's usualy less. Like
128Kbps. Voip may be OK, but web cam video may be iffy. It would depend
on frame rate and picture size.
Gordon
news:L6adnR7NC91H_DHV...@comcast.com:
Except that that is for the 768K downstream speed. Uptream speeds
will be more like 128K.
JR Weiss
>
> Except that that is for the 768K downstream speed. Uptream speeds
> will be more like 128K.
Depends on whether it's a symmetric or asymmetric system...
Gordon
_CdnUkByaIsITHVn...@comcast.com:
Most consumer grade DSL is ADSL. In any case, read the
service discription carefully. It will tell you what it
really is. FWIW Cable Broadband is also asymetric, usually
768K/3M