Re: Illegal Aliens ( breeders) come to US for free births-and anchor babies
Ted
> (CBS) It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is
> with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a south
> Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure
> that won't cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid.
>
> She gave birth to a healthy, 8 1/2 pound baby boy - born in America.
> His Mexican mother gave him an American name: Eliot.
>
> Eliot is one of an estimated 300,000 children of illegal immigrants
> born in the United States every year, according to the Pew Hispanic
> Center. They're given instant citizenship because they are born on
> U.S. soil, which makes it easier for their parents to become U.S.
> citizens.
>
> That's because those babies can eventually sponsor their parents -
> when they turn 21 years old.
>
> As for Eliot's mother, no longer as fearful of deportation, she told
> CBS News her name, Fabiola, and her story.
>
> "So your son is an American citizen. What does that mean to you?"
> Pitts asked.
>
> "I am very glad that he was born. That's why I came here - so my
> children, my husband and I could have a better life," she said through
> a translator.
>
> Back in December, when she was six months pregnant, Fabiola, her
> husband and their two daughters - ages 4 and 11 - crossed the Rio
> Grande from Mexico into the U.S.
>
> Once on the other side of the river they walked for two hours in
> search of a better life and free medical care for their unborn child.
>
> "Do many women in Mexico make the choice to have their children in the
> United States?" Pitts asked.
>
> "Yes," she said through a translator. "I know people who have done
> that. Things are much better here in the U.S. because they help
> children so much more."
>
> It's a "better" life ... that American taxpayers help pay for.
>
> Take healthcare for example -- an estimated $1.1 billion per year for
> undocumented men, women and children, according to the Rand
> Corporation.
>
> Joe Riley is the CEO of the McAllen Texas Medical Center near the
> Texas-Mexico border. Forty percent of the children born there, nearly
> 2,400 last year, were the babies of illegal immigrants.
>
> Riley has seen and heard it all.
>
> "Mothers about to give birth that walk up to the hospital still wet
> from swimming across the river in actual labor … dirty, wet, cold," he
> said.
>
> But here to have a child?
>
> "Here to have a child in the U.S.," he said.
>
> McAllen is part of a large hospital system. Like all hospitals, it is
> mandated by law to treat all emergency-room patients, not verify
> citizenship.
>
> "We have uncompensated care of over $200 million a year," Riley said.
>
> "Of money that you'll never see again?" Pitts asked.
>
> "Yes," he said.
>
> Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said: "It is not fair to the taxpayers who
> have to foot the bill."
>
> Congress has all but given up on comprehensive immigration reform. But
> lawmakers like Smith want to solve birth citizenship to illegal
> immigrants, in part by challenging the 14th Amendment, which
> guarantees U.S. citizenship to any child born in America.
>
> "It seems fundamentally wrong that we ought to give the greatest honor
> of their citizenship," Smith said. "His or her mother came across the
> border illegally."
>
> Many Americans who struggle to take care of their own families think
> it is unfair that they should take care of a family and they are not
> U.S. citizens.
>
> "I don't understand the resentment," said. "I know that God will help
> them, too."
>
> That's what Fabiola's doing for young Eliot. Relying on her faith, her
> family … and the U.S. government.
>
> MMVIII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights R
Run these breeders across the border. If they return illegally put
them in
primative forced labor camps for 10 years.
ted
http://www.numbersusa.com/ NumbersUSA
Rod Speed
Makes a lot more sense to summarily execute KKK goons like you and your ilk.
HarryNadds
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So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites? Are
they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have they
built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to keep ALL
illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then why are we
americans called racists for trying to maintain the sovereignty of our
country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail and explain this to the
uninformed.
Rod Speed
> So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,
Nope, not when its summary execution of you KKK goons and your ilk.
> walking across the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks?
Even dogs and rats cant do that.
> Can I walk into mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born
> in mexico it becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids?
Nope, Mexico aint that stupid.
> Will Mexico let me do that
Nope.
> and if not,why not?
Mexico aint that stupid.
> Are they racist against whites?
Nope, just you KKK gringoes.
> Are they xenophobes?
Nope.
> Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK?
Nope.
> Have they built fences along their southern border?
Nope, they arent that stupid either.
> Do they attempt to keep ALL illegal immigrants out of their country??
Nope.
> If they do
They dont.
> then why are we americans called racists for trying to
> maintain the sovereignty of our country and Mexico not??
Because they have noticed what you KKK goons are about.
> Please go into detail and explain this to the uninformed.
Pointless, it would be more useful to explain it to a stone.
Patriot Games
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> Makes a lot more sense to summarily execute KKK goons like you and your
> ilk.
But lacking anything remotely like courage ALL it does is make sense to
you....
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!
Pussies...
Burto...@gmail.com
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Chupa berga culero !!
Cheapo Groovo
8655c4...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, tedo...@hotmail.com says...
working conditions, low wages, and who are they going to complain to?
Seth Hammond
Logan 5
mumbled:
>People like Rod Speed don't see the exploitation illegals face. Poor
>working conditions, low wages, and who are they going to complain to?
Hospitals face the bills they incur - anchor babies, emergency
procedures, and no remuneration from their home nation...
Logan 5
<use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> mumbled:
>Waiving the right to remain silent, Cheapo Groovo <cc...@nospam.com> said:
>
>> People like Rod Speed don't see the exploitation illegals face. Poor
>> working conditions, low wages, and who are they going to complain to?
>
>Mexico's President.
>
>HTH.
Who supervises the printing of comic books teaching them how to
successfully sneak across the border...
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000613.html
In December the Mexican government officially released a comic book
that sanctions illegal aliens crossing our southern border. They claim
it is to help migrant worker with the title The Guide for the Mexican
Migrant, but upon viewing the comic book it shows illegal aliens
crossing the Rio Grande, trapsing through Arizona,avoiding border
patrol agents and instructs them on how to hide in American society so
they aren't caught.
Here's a quick excerpt from the Free Republic translation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316169/posts
DANGERS OF CROSSING IN HIGH-RISK ZONES
Crossing the river can be very risky, especially if you cross alone
and at night..
Thick clothing increases your weight when wet and makes it hard to
swim or float.
If you cross in the desert, try to travel when the heat is not so
intense.
Highways and towns are very far apart, so that it could take you
several days to find roads and you will not be able to carry food or
water for that long; you could even get lost.
Salted water helps you retain body fluids. Although you get more
thirsty, if you drink salted water the risk of dehydration is
lessened.
...
Avoid calling attention to yourself, at least while you are arranging
your residence papers to live in the United States
The slap in the face is the last page which says:
This consular protection guide is not promoting the crossing [of the
border] of Mexicans without legal documentation required by the
government of the United States; its objective is to make known the
risks implied and to inform about the rights of migrants regardless of
their legal residence.
So after instructing on how to cross without getting caught and/or
injured illegally they then state that the comic book is all about
legally migrating. There's not much in the comic about legally
migrating other than a sentence or two at the beginning which then
quickly disolves into the ins and outs of getting across illegally.
Rod Speed
Corse I do, but they chose to be exploited and clearly
prefer that to their circumstances where they came from.
> Poor working conditions, low wages,
Much better than where they came from, or they wouldnt have come.
> and who are they going to complain to?
In spades where they came from.
Rod Speed
> Cheapo Groovo <cc...@nospam.com> wrote
>> People like Rod Speed don't see the exploitation illegals face. Poor
>> working conditions, low wages, and who are they going to complain to?
> Hospitals face the bills they incur - anchor babies,
Trivially fixable if america would get off its lard arse on that, just
like virtually every other modern first world country has on that now.
> emergency procedures,
You dont get that much of that with that age group
apart from the consequences of their criminal activitys.
> and no remuneration from their home nation...
You dont get that with the legal immigrants either.
Burto...@gmail.com
> In article <aeb78f64-855d-48f3-9116-
> 8655c45e3...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, tedor...@hotmail.com says...
>
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Obama???
Capt. Strong
openly copulate with those peons.
Capt. Strong
medical care, and education.
Leslie, you smoke so much dope, your brain suffers oxygen deprivation
Capt. Strong
Fucking Jr. Bush probably wrote a forward.
Seth Hammond
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Jerry Okamura
It may be "exploitation" but put yourself in the shoes of that illegal. If
he stays in the native country, he may not be "exploited" but he won't be
able to make a whole lot of money. "If" he comes into this country, some
employer "may" exploit the fact that he is an illegal, but he will make more
than enough money in most cases that he can afford to feed himself, most
likely his family (if they came with him), AND may have some money to send
home to help someone else in his family that is still in Mexico.
Day Brown
> It may be "exploitation" but put yourself in the shoes of that illegal.
> If he stays in the native country, he may not be "exploited" but he
> won't be able to make a whole lot of money. "If" he comes into this
> country, some employer "may" exploit the fact that he is an illegal, but
> he will make more than enough money in most cases that he can afford to
> feed himself, most likely his family (if they came with him), AND may
> have some money to send home to help someone else in his family that is
> still in Mexico.
They come here without proper immunizations, and we've seen disease
outbreaks result.
By jamming lotsa workers in the same house they reduce the cost to save
the money to send home. But they also create a nursery for pathogens
like TB and rhinoviruses. The proverbial schitt will really hit the fan
if the malnourished masses- with impaired immune systems have a serious
disease outbreak; which the WHO is already seriously worried about.
Studies already reveal that exposure to viruses in childhood can
interfere with proper mental development- eg trigger autism. So, they
come, put their kids in our schools, and put yours at risk.
Rod Speed
> Cheapo Groovo <cc...@nospam.com> wrote tedo...@hotmail.com wrote
>> tashabu...@gmail.com wrote
Wrong. I realise that they choose to be exploited and even when they are
exploited, their circumstances are better than where they came from, or
they wouldnt be illegals in the first place and would return home etc.
> Poor working conditions, low wages, and who are they going to complain to?
They're welcome to stay back where they came from if they dont like the detail.
> It may be "exploitation" but put yourself in the shoes of that illegal. If he stays in the native country, he may not
> be "exploited" but he won't be able to make a whole lot of money. "If" he comes into this country, some employer
> "may" exploit the fact that he is an illegal, but he will make more than enough money in most cases that he can afford
> to feed himself, most likely his family (if they came with him), AND may have some money to send home to help someone
> else in his family that is still in Mexico.
So they have clearly decided that even when they are exploited, the
result they get is better than where they came from or they would return.
And when they are illegal, they get to wear the downsides of choosing to flout the law.
Rod Speed
> Jerry Okamura wrote
>> It may be "exploitation" but put yourself in the shoes of that
>> illegal. If he stays in the native country, he may not be "exploited" but he won't be able to make a whole lot of
>> money. "If" he comes into this country, some employer "may" exploit the fact that he is an illegal, but he will make
>> more than enough money in most cases that he can afford to feed himself, most likely his family (if they came with
>> him), AND may have some money to send home to help someone else in his family that is still in Mexico.
> Without regard to the morality, we have a national security problem.
Nope, just a few problems in other areas.
> They come here without proper immunizations, and we've seen disease outbreaks result.
Fuck all of those, its a very minor problem compared with their criminal activitys particularly.
> By jamming lotsa workers in the same house they reduce the cost to save the money to send home. But they also create a
> nursery for pathogens like TB and rhinoviruses.
Plenty of natives do that with their drug taking activitys.
> The proverbial schitt will really hit the fan if the malnourished masses-
There arent any of those in america, they eat very well compared with where they come from.
> with impaired immune systems
FAR more of those from drug taking activitys.
> have a serious disease outbreak;
Taint gunna happen, you watch.
> which the WHO is already seriously worried about.
Lie. Things are MUCH worse where they come from and even the WHO realises that.
> Studies already reveal that exposure to viruses in childhood can
> interfere with proper mental development- eg trigger autism.
You cant cite even a single peer reviewed scientific journal article that claims that.
> So, they come, put their kids in our schools, and put yours at risk.
Another lie. There's fuck all risk of infectious disease in schools and
what there is of that is trivially avoidable by proper immunisation.
jtno...@yahoo.com
The national security problem comes from the fact that anybody from
anywhere can cross the border, not just Mexicans. Currently, 11% of
apprehended illegal aliens are OTMs (other than Mexican). While most
of them are other Latin Americans, aliens from every region of the
world have been seen, including Chinese, Arabs from every Arab
country, Pakistanis, Russians, etc. Mexico will not take non-Mexicans
back, and since there is not enough jailspace for them, Homeland
Insecurity has the sign a promise to appear in six months (which they
never do, and then lets them walk and dissolve into our society. One
can only imagine the number of sleeper agents and cells being built in
this way. Keep in mind, too that less than half of the people
attempting to get in are caught in the first place. For this, we have
the Clintbush open borders gang to thank.-Jitney
Not afraid of the trailer park god of Robertson
-
>
> So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
> the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
> mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
> becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
> let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites? Are
> they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have they
> built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to keep ALL
> illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then why are we
> americans called racists for trying to maintain the sovereignty of our
> country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail and explain this to the
> uninformed.
Every 6 weeks? What species are you that can have babies every 6
weeks?
Want to end this "problem?" Then end our trade policies with Mexico.
Free trade is hurting Mexican farmers.
Rod Speed
> HarryNadds <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
>> the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
>> mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
>> becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
>> let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites?
>> Are they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have
>> they built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to
>> keep ALL illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then
>> why are we americans called racists for trying to maintain the
>> sovereignty of our country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail
>> and explain this to the uninformed.
> Want to end this "problem?" Then end our trade policies with Mexico.
Taint gunna happen.
> Free trade is hurting Mexican farmers.
But helping Mexican non farmers.
Rod Speed
The world's moved on. No one bothers with that crap anymore.
> Keep in mind, too that less than half of the people
> attempting to get in are caught in the first place. For
> this, we have the Clintbush open borders gang to thank.
Even if the land borders were completely sealed, those would
still show up using scheduled commercial aircraft flights anyway.
William Souden
elude immigration at an airport than along a land border. Also you need
money to board a plane. One can choose to cross on foot without paying
anyone.
William Souden
official to check immigration status.
Rod Speed
You in spades.
> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
> Also you need money to board a plane.
Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed by goons with
guns, there would still be hordes that have enough money to board a plane.
> One can choose to cross on foot without paying anyone.
Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed, those that currently
show up using scheduled commercial aircraft flights would still do that. Those
are the absolute vast bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
William Souden
The point that eluded is you is that everyone going through an
airport at least undergoes a cursory screening. Those sneaking in on
foot do not.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>
>Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...think maybe
their passport info. isn't flagged and logged?
Klete Kasper
mumbled:
Phew...took along trip to get to the kernel on that one!
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
Plenty of them still show up that way.
> think maybe their passport info. isn't flagged and logged?
Completely trivial to get a false passport.
Rod Speed
>> You in spades.
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland.
> is that everyone going through an airport at least undergoes a cursory screening.
Irrelevant, they get thru anyway by claiming to be tourists, stupid.
> Those sneaking in on foot do not.
Irrelevant to whether even if the land borders were sealed by goons
with guns, those arriving using scheduled commercial aircraft flights
would still constitute more than half of those that show up illegally.
Jerry Okamura
"Day Brown" <dayb...@hughes.net> wrote in message
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Let me suggest complaining about the problem, does not solve the problem.
Having a solution to the problem that could work may solve the problem. But
I would also say, that not being able to address the cause of the problem,
or doing what is necessary to at least reduce the size of the problem, also
does not solve the problem.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed,
>> those that currently show up using scheduled commercial
>> aircraft flights would still do that. Those are the absolute
>> vast bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
> Cites for that claim..?
The hordes of illegal overstayers on tourist visas.
Seth Hammond
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And work visas, and student visas....
William Souden
> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
> said:
>
>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed, those that
>> currently show up using scheduled commercial aircraft flights would
>> still do that. Those are the absolute vast bulk of the more than half
>> that dont currently get caught.
>
>
You expect a cite from welfare boy?
Rod Speed
>>> Cites for that claim..?
> So you claim.
Anyone with a clue can see the number of those and other illegal visa overstayers
that get caught, usually as a result of their criminal activitys, and compare the number
who have illegally overstayed their visa with those who never had any legal entry at all.
> A cite is a reference supporting a claim, not another unsupported claim.
I wont be bothering to provide a cite for the claim that W was elected twice either, fuckwit.
You dont get to demand a cite for something as common as that.
> See how that works..?
Yep, fools like you demand cites for stuff everyone knows happens.
> (I tire of teaching these kids...)
I'm older than you thanks, fuckwit.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>
>>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
>
>> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
>
>Plenty of them still show up that way.
Cite?
>> think maybe their passport info. isn't flagged and logged?
>
>Completely trivial to get a false passport.
And those don't get recgnized?
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>> is that everyone going through an airport at least undergoes a cursory screening.
>
>Irrelevant, they get thru anyway by claiming to be tourists, stupid.
Prove it.
Cite.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
Use a factual url, or SHADDUP!
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>I wont be bothering to provide a cite
This comes as no surprise at all.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> is that everyone going through an airport at least undergoes a cursory screening.
>> Irrelevant, they get thru anyway by claiming to be tourists, stupid.
> Prove it.
Go and fuck yourself.
> Cite.
See above.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>>>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
>>> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
>> Plenty of them still show up that way.
> Cite?
Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find the numbers who show up on tourist
visas, if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.
The other visas in spades.
>>> think maybe their passport info. isn't flagged and logged?
>> Completely trivial to get a false passport.
> And those don't get recgnized?
Not even possible with the best of them.
Rod Speed
>>>>> Cites for that claim..?
>>> So you claim.
>>> See how that works..?
> You made a specific claim about numbers.
You're lying, as always.
> Prove it, asshat.
Go and fuck yourself, fuckwit.
>>> (I tire of teaching these kids...)
>> I'm older than you thanks, fuckwit.
> And you know that how, dipshit..?
Stands out like dogs balls, child.
> Is this as out-of-your-ass as your other claims..?
Nope, fact, fuckwit.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed,
>>>> those that currently show up using scheduled commercial
>>>> aircraft flights would still do that. Those are the absolute
>>>> vast bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
>>> Cites for that claim..?
>> The hordes of illegal overstayers on tourist visas.
> Use a factual url, or SHADDUP!
Go and fuck yourself, again.
William Souden
operates. He makes a claim and when asked for proof either ignore it or
posts auto bots about paper bags or toilets.
If you post a link refuting his claims he will reply by saying
"bullshit" or irrelevant"
William Souden
claims and he just admitted I am correct.
William Souden
>
> Nope, fact, fuckwit.
>
>
In the fantasy works of welfare Rod making a claim constitutes a cite.
William Souden
William Souden
Rod is unable to do either. Keep in mind he is a career welfare leech
with no marketable job skills.
William Souden
When Rod takes his meds he sometimes makes sense but obviously he ran
out of them recently.
Seth Hammond
"Klete Kasper" <co...@wa.zu> wrote in message
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The 9-11 terrorists all came here legally.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
MBWHAHHHAHAAA!!!!!
You LOSE!
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>
>>>>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
>
>>>> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
>
>>> Plenty of them still show up that way.
>
>> Cite?
>
>Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find
CIte????
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
BYTE ME!
Klete Kasper
mumbled:
Ah yes, a familar pathology, thank you for the timely analysis :-)
Klete Kasper
mumbled:
>Rod Speed wrote:
He's a real Pavlov's dog, that one is...
Klete Kasper
Seth Hammond
"Klete Kasper" <co...@wa.zu> wrote in message
You tell me how many terrorists are here and planning right now.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> is that everyone going through an airport at least undergoes a cursory screening.
>>>> Irrelevant, they get thru anyway by claiming to be tourists, stupid.
>>> Prove it.
>> Go and fuck yourself.
>>> Cite.
>> See above.
> MBWHAHHHAHAAA!!!!!
Village eejut imitations cut no mustard around here, child.
> You LOSE!
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>>>>>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
>>>>> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
>>>> Plenty of them still show up that way.
>>> Cite?
>> Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find the numbers who show up on tourist
>> visas, if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.
>> The other visas in spades.
> CIte????
Record's stuck, child.
Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find cites on how many muslims
get visas of various kinds, and even legal immigration status too, if smoeone was
Rod Speed
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
No thanks, drop dead.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>> but it is a lot harder to elude immigration at an airport than along a land border.
>
>>>>>>> Nope, you just say you are a tourist and dont bother going home.
>
>>>>>> How ya figger that's working for the muzzies these days...
>
>>>>> Plenty of them still show up that way.
>
>>>> Cite?
>
>>> Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find the numbers who show up on tourist
>>> visas, if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.
>
>>> The other visas in spades.
>
>> CIte????
>
>Record's stuck,
Yup, you refuse to produce.
Klete Kasper
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> is that everyone going through an airport at least undergoes a cursory screening.
>
>>>>> Irrelevant, they get thru anyway by claiming to be tourists, stupid.
>
>>>> Prove it.
>
>>> Go and fuck yourself.
>
>>>> Cite.
>
>>> See above.
>
>> MBWHAHHHAHAAA!!!!!
>
>Village eejut
Yes, that you are, toodles...
Klete Kasper
<lesliese...@yahoo.com> mumbled:
>
>"Klete Kasper" <co...@wa.zu> wrote in message
>news:g1rc14177ofat14an...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:25:45 -0700, "Seth Hammond"
>> <lesliese...@yahoo.com> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Klete Kasper" <co...@wa.zu> wrote in message
>>>news:vblc14t4dhj3jgcq6...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:54:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> mumbled:
>>>>
>>>>>Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed,
>>>>>>> those that currently show up using scheduled commercial
>>>>>>> aircraft flights would still do that. Those are the absolute
>>>>>>> vast bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cites for that claim..?
>>>>>
>>>>>The hordes of illegal overstayers on tourist visas.
>>>>>
>>>> Use a factual url, or SHADDUP!
>>>
>>>The 9-11 terrorists all came here legally.
>>
>> Since then?
>
>You tell me
Seen any attacks?
Klete Kasper
<use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> mumbled:
>Waiving the right to remain silent, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
>said:
>You're not very good at this, are you..?
Shocklingly bad...
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed,
>>>>>> those that currently show up using scheduled commercial
>>>>>> aircraft flights would still do that. Those are the absolute vast
>>>>>> bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
>>>>> Cites for that claim..?
>>>> The hordes of illegal overstayers on tourist visas.
>>> Use a factual url, or SHADDUP!
>> Go and fuck yourself, again.
> You're not very good at this, are you..?
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
William Souden
> Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Klete Kasper <co...@wa.zu> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Larry in AZ <use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> Sure, but even if the land borders were completely sealed,
>>>>>>> those that currently show up using scheduled commercial
>>>>>>> aircraft flights would still do that. Those are the absolute vast
>>>>>>> bulk of the more than half that dont currently get caught.
>
>>>>>> Cites for that claim..?
>
>>>>> The hordes of illegal overstayers on tourist visas.
>
>>>> Use a factual url, or SHADDUP!
>
>>> Go and fuck yourself, again.
>
>> You're not very good at this, are you..?
>
As I noted to the newbie here that paper bag bot is admission that
welfare boy has no facts. You will know that you really upset him when
he posts the flushing bot.
For more details do a google groups search for "Rod Speed FAQ" or
"Rod Speed Work History".
Eat the rich
> Not afraid of the trailer park god of Robertson <goofin...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > HarryNadds <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
> >> the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
> >> mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
> >> becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
> >> let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites?
> >> Are they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have
> >> they built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to
> >> keep ALL illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then
> >> why are we americans called racists for trying to maintain the
> >> sovereignty of our country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail
> >> and explain this to the uninformed.
> > Want to end this "problem?" Then end our trade policies with Mexico.
>
> Taint gunna happen.
>
> > Free trade is hurting Mexican farmers.
>
> But helping Mexican non farmers.
It's not helping anyone in Mexico except the twenty families that
control the bulk of the wealth in Mexico. The 40 richest people in
Mexico control 30% of the wealth!! Not 40 percent. 40 People. If we
were to change our trade policies with Mexico, this state of unfair
wealth distribution could be mitigated. But our leaders, who take
their cues from the businesses that trade with and in Mexico, have no
interest in fixing this injustice.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Not afraid of the trailer park god of Robertson <goofin...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> HarryNadds <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,walking across
>>>> the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks? Can I walk into
>>>> mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born in mexico it
>>>> becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids? Will Mexico
>>>> let me do that and if not,why not? Are they racist against whites?
>>>> Are they xenophobes? Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK? Have
>>>> they built fences along their southern border? Do they attempt to
>>>> keep ALL illegal immigrants out of their country?? If they do then
>>>> why are we americans called racists for trying to maintain the
>>>> sovereignty of our country and Mexico not?? Please go into detail
>>>> and explain this to the uninformed.
>>> Want to end this "problem?" Then end our trade policies with Mexico.
>> Taint gunna happen.
>>> Free trade is hurting Mexican farmers.
>> But helping Mexican non farmers.
> It's not helping anyone in Mexico except the twenty
> families that control the bulk of the wealth in Mexico.
Wrong. It also helps those who need to work in the industrys that are viable due to the trade policys.
> The 40 richest people in Mexico control 30% of the wealth!! Not 40 percent. 40 People.
Irrelevant to the large number of mexicans they employ.
> If we were to change our trade policies with Mexico,
> this state of unfair wealth distribution could be mitigated.
Nope, that happened before NAFTA too.
> But our leaders, who take their cues from the businesses that
> trade with and in Mexico, have no interest in fixing this injustice.
Nothing the US does will have any effect no that.
Seth Hammond
"Klete Kasper" <co...@wa.zu> wrote in message
Several have been interrupted. Then there's all those forest fires....
Klete Kasper
<use...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> mumbled:
>Waiving the right to remain silent, William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> said:
>
>> As I noted to the newbie here that paper bag bot is admission that
>> welfare boy has no facts. You will know that you really upset him when
>> he posts the flushing bot.
>> For more details do a google groups search for "Rod Speed FAQ" or
>> "Rod Speed Work History".
>
>"Rod is believed to be from Australia."
>
>Ah-ha... That explains it. The Crocodile Dundee Complex...
Shrimp on the barbie...they're out like gnats, Rod, Billy...it's
pathetic really...
Klete Kasper
<lesliese...@yahoo.com> mumbled:
Not IN the US.
>Then there's all those forest fires....
Plausible, but also in the wrong state, seen any follow-up on this
yet?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-11-alqaeda-fire_x.htm
PHOENIX (AP) — The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies last month
that an al-Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of
masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires
around the western United States.
Rose Davis, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in
Boise, told The Associated Press that officials there took note of the
warning but didn't see a need to act further on it.
The contents of the June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver office were
reported Friday by The Arizona Republic. Davis declined to share a
copy of the memo and an FBI spokeswoman in Denver didn't immediately
return a telephone call.
The Republic reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said
the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed
devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in
forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.
The memo noted that investigators couldn't determine whether the
detainee was telling the truth.
The newspaper said many forest law enforcement officers it contacted
had no idea the warning had been issued.