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A Veteran

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Aug 8, 2008, 12:17:12 PM8/8/08
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http://act.truemajorityaction.org/p/7002/tirepressure?petition_KEY=76

do something today!
Your tires may last longer too.
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clams_casino

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Aug 8, 2008, 12:51:36 PM8/8/08
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A Veteran wrote:

>
>do something today!
>Your tires may last longer too.
>
>

Checked them this am. They were 26-29 psi - filled them to 34 psi.

Of course, McBush thinks that's a silly way to save gas.

Goomba

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Aug 8, 2008, 2:12:28 PM8/8/08
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Actually, I thought it more stupid the way Obama assumed everyone's were
improperly filled.
It still is small potatoes to the BIGGER problem of oil, don't you think?

clams_casino

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Aug 8, 2008, 2:35:25 PM8/8/08
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Goomba wrote:


There is no single solution. Drilling for oil will bring on no more
gasoline if the refineries are at capacity. I'm sure that if everyone
properly filled their tires on a regular basis, a significant savings
in gasoline can be realized, amongst other easy-to-do practices. Buying
higher mileage cars, driving less, driving slower, etc can all be
effective practices where no single one will solve all the energy problems.

I'm in agreement with drilling, primarily to determine what reserves are
available. I've always felt filling salt mines in Texas has been a
really dumb idea, except to remove surplus oil from the market (keep
pricing high). Seems to me the same result (building reserves) could be
accomplished by finding new supplies & capping them (or wells in TX)
rather than moving oil from one hole in the ground in Texas to another
hole in the ground....in Texas.

McBush & Hillary's push to omit the federal tax on gas was probably the
second most dumb approach. If anything, as the price drops, taxes
should be increased (and offsetting other taxes, such as the business
obligations to FICA taxes) to push demand down. Another approach could
be to use the increased taxes to pay for military expenses.

Al Bundy

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Aug 8, 2008, 5:06:22 PM8/8/08
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clams_casino wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>
> > clams_casino wrote:
> >
> >> A Veteran wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> do something today!
> >>> Your tires may last longer too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Checked them this am. They were 26-29 psi - filled them to 34 psi.
> >>
> >> Of course, McBush thinks that's a silly way to save gas.
> >
> >
> > Actually, I thought it more stupid the way Obama assumed everyone's
> > were improperly filled.
> > It still is small potatoes to the BIGGER problem of oil, don't you think?
>
>
> There is no single solution. Drilling for oil will bring on no more
> gasoline if the refineries are at capacity. I'm sure that if everyone
> properly filled their tires on a regular basis, a significant savings
> in gasoline can be realized, amongst other easy-to-do practices. Buying
> higher mileage cars, driving less, driving slower, etc can all be
> effective practices where no single one will solve all the energy problems.
>
> I'm in agreement with drilling, primarily to determine what reserves are
> available. I've always felt filling salt mines in Texas has been a
> really dumb idea, except to remove surplus oil from the market (keep
> pricing high). Seems to me the same result (building reserves) could be
> accomplished by finding new supplies & capping them (or wells in TX)
> rather than moving oil from one hole in the ground in Texas to another
> hole in the ground....in Texas.
>

I like the concept of drilling and capping, but there are problems
with that approach as well. I always have an expiration date on my
leases where the rights revert to me. I suppose others do likewise.
The lease can be kept in place if a well is drilled AND PRODUCED.
Admittedly, the production required to keep a lease active is quite
small. That's not efficient for the operator either. When you cap a
well it doesn't just sit there waiting for you to tap it. It
deteriorates in various ways. Also, you can only estimate what
production might be from a well after some production begins. A
producing formation can quickly become "watered in" and the hole lost
to production. So the best way is to drill it and produce at a
conservative rate that will prolong the production on that well. Some
last three months. Others last 30 years.

Rod Speed

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Aug 8, 2008, 7:03:28 PM8/8/08
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clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote

> Goomba wrote
>> clams_casino wrote
>>> A Veteran wrote

>>>> do something today!
>>>> Your tires may last longer too.

Nope, they'll actually wear out quicker.

>>> Checked them this am. They were 26-29 psi - filled them to 34 psi.

>>> Of course, McBush thinks that's a silly way to save gas.

>> Actually, I thought it more stupid the way Obama assumed everyone's were improperly filled. It still is small
>> potatoes to the BIGGER problem of oil, don't you think?

> There is no single solution.

Corse there is. If everyone killed themselves, there would be no need for oil.

> Drilling for oil will bring on no more gasoline if the refineries are at capacity.

You build more or increase the capacity of the current ones, stupid.

> I'm sure that if everyone properly filled their tires on a regular basis, a significant savings in gasoline can be
> realized,

Nope, an insignificant saving, actually.

And doing it irregularly works just as well too.

> amongst other easy-to-do practices.

Bet you cant list even a single one of those.

> Buying higher mileage cars, driving less, driving slower, etc can all be effective practices

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist wankers ?

> where no single one will solve all the energy problems.

Corse there is. If everyone killed themselves, there would be no need for energy and so no energy problem.

> I'm in agreement with drilling, primarily to determine what reserves are available.

Whats the point if you arent going to use what you find ?

> I've always felt filling salt mines in Texas has been a really dumb idea, except to remove surplus oil from the market
> (keep pricing high).

More fool you.

> Seems to me the same result (building reserves) could be accomplished by finding new supplies & capping them (or wells
> in TX) rather than moving oil from one hole in the ground in Texas to another hole in the ground....in Texas.

More fool you.

> McBush & Hillary's push to omit the federal tax on gas was probably
> the second most dumb approach. If anything, as the price drops, taxes should be increased (and offsetting other
> taxes, such as the business obligations to FICA taxes) to push demand down.

Mindlessly silly.

> Another approach could be to use the increased taxes to pay for military expenses.

Dont give up the day 'job'


max

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Aug 8, 2008, 10:18:48 PM8/8/08
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In article <rQ_mk.7857$3l5....@newsfe06.iad>,
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:

i run my tires at about 110 psi. i save a great deal of gas.

.max

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George Grapman

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Aug 8, 2008, 10:32:07 PM8/8/08
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Obama suggested that people have proper inflation.
Limbaugh claimed he said we should over inflate them.
The dittoheads believe Limbaugh.

CurlyQue

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Aug 9, 2008, 9:49:49 AM8/9/08
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I think the whole rational is about multiples. More efficient practices
multiplied by 1 million, 10 million, 350 million, add up to staggering
numbers. There are measures that we can all take that aren't really
going to demand much of a sacrifice in time, and in addition to saving
resources, will likely save us money in the long term as well. Properly
inflated tires is just one of many.


Curly

suds macheath

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Aug 9, 2008, 3:34:04 PM8/9/08
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"Seems like these guys [rightards] take pride in bein' ignorant"
B Obama

Al Bundy

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:16:22 PM8/9/08
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Yea, but my kid bowled more than 37 when she was 4 years old.

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clams_casino

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Aug 10, 2008, 8:55:39 AM8/10/08
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Derald wrote:

>George Grapman <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Limbaugh claimed he said we should over inflate them.
>> The dittoheads believe Limbaugh.
>>
>>

> Good for them; because, according to Michelin ca mid-1970's,
>assbreath is correct. I still have the letter from Michelin advising
>"over" inflation by about 10% (as a starting place) for increased
>performance and lifetime of radial-ply tires. Of course, nowadays,
>corporate liability attorneys would never let such a recommendation be
>posted. Without going into detail, handling, safety and longevity are
>*not* primary considerations when recommendations are determined;
>perceived softness of ride and noise level both take precedence. Only in
>America.
>
>


and who would know better about being over inflated than Rush? It's
certainly increased his wealth.

clams_casino

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Aug 10, 2008, 8:56:28 AM8/10/08
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Derald wrote:

>clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>They were 26-29 psi - filled them to 34 psi
>>
>>

> ...might not be "enough". As a general rule, try ą 10% over what's
>printed on the sidewall; more, if it's a truck or blimpmobile
>
>

32 - so I'm close enough for my comfort level.

suds macheath

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Aug 10, 2008, 4:34:05 PM8/10/08
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Jim Prescott

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Aug 13, 2008, 6:39:14 PM8/13/08
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In article <6g3gkfF...@mid.individual.net>,

Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Actually, I thought it more stupid the way Obama assumed everyone's were
>improperly filled.

When did he assume that? Most estimates say 20-30% of cars have
underinflated tires.

>It still is small potatoes to the BIGGER problem of oil, don't you think?

Perhaps, but then so is expanding offshore drilling. When Politifact
ran the numbers they came up with annual amounts of 1.2 billion gallons
of gas wasted due to underinflated tires and 1.4 billion gallons
additional gas available should all the off-limits offshore areas be
fully drilled.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/608/

So getting people to properly inflate their tires would have roughly
the same effect opening up the rest of the offshore areas. Of course
the tire thing is something that would help immediately while drilling
at that rate is probably > 10 years away.

Doing either or both may just be small potatoes but those are the
only kind we've got so we'll need lots of different ones.
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Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group j...@seas.rochester.edu
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY

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