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bob

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Jul 24, 2007, 2:17:18 PM7/24/07
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Decentralized power such as this, could be a threat to the fear-based
boys who run the show.

http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
"NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels
NEWARK, July 18, 2007
Researchers at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT) have
developed an inexpensive solar cell that can be painted or printed on
flexible plastic sheets. The process is simple, said lead researcher
and author Somenath Mitra, PhD, professor and acting chair of NJIT’s
Department of Chemistry and Environmental Sciences. Someday homeowners
will even be able to print sheets of these solar cells with
inexpensive home-based inkjet printers. Consumers can then slap the
finished product on a wall, roof or billboard to create their own
power stations." ...

Rod Speed

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Jul 24, 2007, 3:42:45 PM7/24/07
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bob <b...@earthlink.net> wrote

> Decentralized power such as this, could be a
> threat to the fear-based boys who run the show.

Not a chance, you watch.

And there are no 'fear-based boys who run the show' either.

> http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
> "NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
> Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels
> NEWARK, July 18, 2007

Just another in a VERY long line of claims like this, not one of which has
EVER turned out to be anything like as important as they claim they are.

> Researchers at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT) have
> developed an inexpensive solar cell that can be painted or printed on
> flexible plastic sheets. The process is simple, said lead researcher
> and author Somenath Mitra, PhD, professor and acting chair of NJIT's
> Department of Chemistry and Environmental Sciences.

Corse that's a stunningly impeccible source, eh ?

> Someday homeowners will even be able to print sheets of
> these solar cells with inexpensive home-based inkjet printers.

Nope.

> Consumers can then slap the finished product on a wall,
> roof or billboard to create their own power stations." ...

Nope. Just another stupid pig ignorant claim.


Don K

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Jul 24, 2007, 4:11:57 PM7/24/07
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"bob" <b...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:46a6395...@news.east.earthlink.net...

> Decentralized power such as this, could be a threat to the fear-based
> boys who run the show.

Nice job of turning a scientific anouncement into a political statement.

> http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
> "NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
> Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels

Ooh, an inexpensive process has been developed to use paint-on solar
panels made from single wall carbon nanotubes. One day homeowners
will be able to use an inexpensive inkjet printer to print their own
solar cells.

Great!
Let's check the price of these inexpensive carbon nanotubes...
Here's some at Cheap Tubes Inc:
Short Single Walled Carbon Nanotubes 90wt% -- $250 per gram
http://www.cheaptubesinc.com/pricelist. htm?gclid=CJnqsKv6wI0CFSQsFQod1yayMA

It's always something. They develop a process using an inexpensive printer,
but they screw you with the cost of the ink!

Don


Boston Blackie

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Jul 24, 2007, 5:14:00 PM7/24/07
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What, exactly, are your technical qualifications, Rod Speed? Are you a
Certified Aircraft Repair Technician?

Rod Speed

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Jul 24, 2007, 5:19:16 PM7/24/07
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Boston Blackie (PA Robert Black, or is it the other way 'round?) <bbla...@mail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> bob <b...@earthlink.net> wrote

>> Nope.

What are yours, gutless ?

> Are you a Certified Aircraft Repair Technician?

Irrelevant.


Message has been deleted

bob

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Jul 25, 2007, 2:04:23 PM7/25/07
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Resentful "Rod Speed"

Something every troll aspires to: his own FAQ:

Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet. ...

bob

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Jul 25, 2007, 2:08:57 PM7/25/07
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"Don K" wrote:

>"bob" wrote:
>> Decentralized power such as this, could be a threat to the fear-based
>> boys who run the show.
>
>Nice job of turning a scientific anouncement into a political statement.

Politics is entwined in economics.
There is no free market.

Then again, as the boy said to Neo in the Matrix,
"there is no spoon".

>> http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
>> "NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
>> Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels
>
>Ooh, an inexpensive process has been developed to use paint-on solar
>panels made from single wall carbon nanotubes. One day homeowners
>will be able to use an inexpensive inkjet printer to print their own
>solar cells.
>
>Great!
>Let's check the price of these inexpensive carbon nanotubes...

The link you gave says very little about solar panels. Your reference
was like pointing at a forest and saying "Look, there's all the toilet
paper you could want!". Sure, you could use a pine cone as toilet
paper, but that's not very efficacious, is it?

How much of a one-time payment would you make to be able to quit
paying your never-ending electric bill? Expensive as they are now, a
solar panel system could be done, if you have the cash and can do the
work. Would you like to see your electric meter run backwards, selling
electricity to the utility at the same price they sell to you? It's
legal and doable. The carbon nanotube application could make it much
easier and cheaper.

Rod Speed

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Jul 25, 2007, 3:01:50 PM7/25/07
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Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
blob <bl...@earthlink.net> wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can
ever manage when its got done like a fucking dinner, as always.


William Souden

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Jul 25, 2007, 3:02:42 PM7/25/07
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Rod could not post for a while today. He had to go to the welfare
offices for his semi-annual recertification for being totally unemployable.

The full Rod Speed FAQ:

Who or What is Rod Speed?


Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.


Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?


You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.


Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?


It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.


But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?


Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.


But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?


Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.


What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?


Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.


But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?


It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"


What is a "RodBot"?


Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.


Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?


You got it!


What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?


KillFile!

Rod Speed

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Jul 25, 2007, 3:05:47 PM7/25/07
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bob <b...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Don K" wrote:
>
>> "bob" wrote:
>>> Decentralized power such as this, could be a threat to the
>>> fear-based boys who run the show.
>>
>> Nice job of turning a scientific anouncement into a political
>> statement.
>
> Politics is entwined in economics.
> There is no free market.
>
> Then again, as the boy said to Neo in the Matrix,
> "there is no spoon".
>
>>> http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
>>> "NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
>>> Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels
>>
>> Ooh, an inexpensive process has been developed to use paint-on solar
>> panels made from single wall carbon nanotubes. One day homeowners
>> will be able to use an inexpensive inkjet printer to print their own
>> solar cells.
>>
>> Great!
>> Let's check the price of these inexpensive carbon nanotubes...

> How much of a one-time payment would you make to


> be able to quit paying your never-ending electric bill?

FAR less than this shit will ever be available for.

> Expensive as they are now, a solar panel system could
> be done, if you have the cash and can do the work.

Corse they can, some fools do it right now.

> Would you like to see your electric meter run backwards, selling
> electricity to the utility at the same price they sell to you?

Sure, BUT it costs FAR too much to get that, fool.

> It's legal and doable.

Must be one of those rocket scientist fools.

> The carbon nanotube application could make it much easier and cheaper.

Nope, it wont, you watch.


William Souden

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Jul 25, 2007, 3:22:35 PM7/25/07
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Translation: Welfare boy stopped taking his meds.

Don K

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Jul 25, 2007, 9:11:19 PM7/25/07
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"bob" <b...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46a98c93...@news.east.earthlink.net...

> "Don K" wrote:
>>"bob" wrote:
>>> Decentralized power such as this, could be a threat to the fear-based
>>> boys who run the show.
>>
>>Nice job of turning a scientific anouncement into a political statement.
>
> Politics is entwined in economics.
> There is no free market.
>
> Then again, as the boy said to Neo in the Matrix,
> "there is no spoon".


You seem to be quoting fantasy dialog as if it had meaning.


>>> http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_1040.php
>>> "NJIT Researchers Develop Inexpensive,
>>> Easy Process To Produce Solar Panels
>>
>>Ooh, an inexpensive process has been developed to use paint-on solar
>>panels made from single wall carbon nanotubes. One day homeowners
>>will be able to use an inexpensive inkjet printer to print their own
>>solar cells.
>>
>>Great!
>>Let's check the price of these inexpensive carbon nanotubes...
>
> The link you gave says very little about solar panels. Your reference
> was like pointing at a forest and saying "Look, there's all the toilet
> paper you could want!". Sure, you could use a pine cone as toilet
> paper, but that's not very efficacious, is it?

It pointed out that plain vanilla carbon nanotube "paint" without
the added buckeyballs costs $250 per gram.

Your press announcement indicated that a paper was written describing
a process that adds carbon buckyballs to carbon nanotubes which
could potentially increase nanotube electrical efficiency when excited
by photons.

Beyond that, the headlined claim that an inexpensive process has been
developed to produce solar panels is just extrapolated hype.

> How much of a one-time payment would you make to be able to quit
> paying your never-ending electric bill? Expensive as they are now, a
> solar panel system could be done, if you have the cash and can do the
> work. Would you like to see your electric meter run backwards, selling
> electricity to the utility at the same price they sell to you? It's
> legal and doable. The carbon nanotube application could make it much
> easier and cheaper.

The magic words here are could, might, maybe, perhaps, promising,
someday, etc.

This paper may turn out to be a significant step along the way, but let's
wait until the engineers actually develop something before claiming
it is developed.

Don


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