I can recall when an NFL game averaged 2 hrs. and 15 minutes, and you
would see most of the halftime show. Hey, I'd defend capitalism with
my life, but the way pro sports has given in to greed, I'd be
deliriously happy to see pro sports collapse.
The first time I went to an NFL game, I couldn't figure out why the
players were constantly just standing around. It finally took a
friend to explain the commercial time out thing to me.
Their business philosophy is to give us just enough program so that we'll
watch the commercials.
A similar thing happens during post-season baseball. There are extra
commercials between innings and the tv people tell the crew chief (the
top umpire) when to start each half inning.
What annoys me about the NFL is the half time shows. Invariably they
start with highlights of the game we are watching before showing other
games.
Bing bing we have a winner.
A vicarious life is a life unlived.
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aem sends...
Do you relaize soccer players in Europe make much much more money than
NFL players? And that there are no commercials during the two halves?
> They would be smarter to have product placements during the show-just
> think the amount of candy sold that was Miley Cyrus's favorite
> candy/gum-just because they see her consume it? Hell, you could
> develop whole plotlines based on a product or service...
ESPN was panned this week by the NPR business show Marketplace, because
they synergized a spot from their Wipeout show onto the week's top 10
sports moments. The reviewer pointed out that their journalistic
credibility evaporates when they pass off crap as a "great moment."
>You do realize that NFL players are paid on average between $2-4 million do
>you? Ticket prices alone will not pay those salaries, and there is no
>pay-per-view.
>
Of course not. They need government tax subsidies to pay those salaries.
Yeah, and tickets only cost a nickel back then!
>On Sep 21, 2:06=A0pm, here@home (A Liberal's Worst Nightmare) wrote:
>> Wall-to-wall commercials. =A0Guy kicks extra point. =A0Multiple
>> commercials. =A0Team then kicks off. =A0Multiple commercials. =A0Then on =
>1st
>> down, QB completes pass for a 6-yard gain. =A0Oops, another commercial
>> break. =A0What the fuck!? =A0Nobody on the field called a time-out!
>>
>> I can recall when an NFL game averaged 2 hrs. and 15 minutes, and you
>> would see most of the halftime show. =A0Hey, I'd defend capitalism with
>> my life, but the way pro sports has given in to greed, I'd be
>> deliriously happy to see pro sports collapse.
>
>Yeah, and tickets only cost a nickel back then!
Actually, ticket prices in the 1950s ranged between $5.50 and $7.50.
The best player on the team got $7,500.
Your grandfather may have mentioned him: John Unitas.
But even in the 60s, the average time was 2 hrs. 15 minutes.
True, and what makes the situation more disgusting is there is so much hype,
replays, and commercials, that the game resumes before they start televising
it.
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So, you neo-conservatives cannot afford a DVR or TIVO box?
Even us liberals know know how to push the button and skip
the commercials. I can watch a football game in about 45
minutes. So, if your game starts at noon and ends at 3:15,
start watching it at 2:20, see the game, and if it goes long,
watch the last little bit live. Or go do something constructive,
and come back to the game in the evening.
-john-
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That's right.
They could always go to a lecture by Jeremiah Wright and come back to
And therefore, what?
It's a TV timeout. seriously. And the worst part is that if you GO
to a game, they don't actually tell you what's going on. So there's a
play and then suddenly everythign just stops, waterboys walk out and 2
1/2 min later, the game starts up again.
> I can recall when an NFL game averaged 2 hrs. and 15 minutes, and you
> would see most of the halftime show. Hey, I'd defend capitalism with
> my life, but the way pro sports has given in to greed, I'd be
> deliriously happy to see pro sports collapse.
You also fail to mention the in game ads, where they superimpose some
ad on the field or behind the goalposts prior to a game being
played. At one time (i think this was college football), where they
were promoting the new $20 bill and they displayed it whenever a team
got inside the 20yd line.
-goro-
NFL Sunday Ticket is basically NFL ppv.
-goro-
Since when HAS ESPN had any journalistic credibility? Those talking
heads just say random stuff and make rumors up ("from a source"). So
many times they just say things that turn out to be not-even-remotely-
true. I gave up on them a long time ago.
-goro-
True,but it is still a better deal than the baseball package. I
know each week that I will get every Sunday game unless the Raiders are
blacked out at home.
The baseball package has many exception. You do not get:
Games where both teams are telecasting on over the air tv instead
of a regional cable network.
Saturday afternoon games.
Any games involving a local team. True,most of those games are
available locally but there are exceptions. A few times a month the A's
will not be televising a game but the opposing team is. That game will
not be shown but I can sometimes still watch it on ch.720 which shows up
t 8 games at a time albeit with a much smaller picture.
Another favorite is saying "ESPN has learned...." when the story
was already reported in a newspaper. I can not recall the last time I
watched Sports Center.
> Goro wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 2:51 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>>> "ricok987" <ricok...@optonline.net> wrote
>>> innews:48d6b357$0$5670$607e...@cv.net:
>>>
>>>> They would be smarter to have product placements during the
>>>> show-just think the amount of candy sold that was Miley Cyrus's
>>>> favorite candy/gum-just because they see her consume it? Hell, you
>>>> could develop whole plotlines based on a product or service...
>>> ESPN was panned this week by the NPR business show Marketplace,
>>> because they synergized a spot from their Wipeout show onto the
>>> week's top 10 sports moments. The reviewer pointed out that their
>>> journalistic credibility evaporates when they pass off crap as a
>>> "great moment."
>>
>> Since when HAS ESPN had any journalistic credibility? Those talking
>> heads just say random stuff and make rumors up ("from a source"). So
>> many times they just say things that turn out to be
>> not-even-remotely- true. I gave up on them a long time ago.
>
> Another favorite is saying "ESPN has learned...." when the story
> was already reported in a newspaper. I can not recall the last time I
> watched Sports Center.
I liked that old tv show, Sports Night. ... Of course, that wasn't
ESPN. :(
How many games per year, times how many teams? ;-)
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Keith
I get about 135 of 162 Mets games.
>
> <snip>
>
>
> � � � I get about 135 of 162 Mets games.
>
Sorry to hear that.
:O)
On the other hand I will miss,at most, a handful of blacked out Raider
games out of the entire NFL schedule.
P.S. The Saturday afternoon game is becoming a relic as Fox owns that
slot. Teams want local telecasts so the move the games to Saturday night
so instead of a warm afternoon game ending around 4 we get chilly games
ending at 9 or later.
In addition on short notice ESPN can move a Sunday game to the
evening. Last year I went back east and purchased tickets for a 1 p.m.
Mets game.Because of the double parking whammy of the new stadium and
the adjacent US Open we decided to take NJ Transit the Long Island Rail
Road. On Monday the game was moved to 8 p.m. and with the Jersey trains
only running once an hour we had to leave in the 6th.
>>
It's worth it just to see Oucho Stinko let a touchdown pass go right
throuh his hands and then get a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.
They sure don't have clowns like that at the rodeo.
So how do the Packers win?
> If you want to watch some REAL football, go watch a local highschool
> team play. That's where there is really some skill and muscle work.
> Watching the so called "PRO" Football is just watching acting.
> the same is true for all "pro" sports.
>
Not to mention the NFL gear all the players are required to wear on the
sidelines. You don't think all those guys only wear NFL gear when they
aren't on the sidelines of a game; And also we have the 'Prudential
halftime report coming up in 15 minutes' type ad. And when a ball is
kicked through a goal post you have the Allstate good hands net there to
catch it. And probably a lot more that I missed.
Actually, ticket prices in the 1950s ranged between $5.50 and $7.50.
The best player on the team got $7,500.
Your grandfather may have mentioned him: John Unitas.
But even in the 60s, the average time was 2 hrs. 15 minutes.
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The fans who were fortunate enough to have seen the likes of Lombardi
and Unitas witnessed the best of pro ball. That was before it was so
vastly exploited. Back then you could spear a guy in the head with your
helmet and it was a good hit. Now it's like basketball was back then.
You can't horse collar, you can't rough the quarterback ...what's the
point. I'm surprised they still play in the rain. Wont they get wet?