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Lowell

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Jan 4, 2006, 7:58:39 PM1/4/06
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Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
Thoughts?

Lowell

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Jan 4, 2006, 7:58:40 PM1/4/06
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bear...@cruller.invalid

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Jan 4, 2006, 8:09:11 PM1/4/06
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In article <1136422720....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:

> Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
> Thoughts?

Um, they post the same article twice?

No, just kidding. People hate lawyers because they feel victimized by
them and helpless before them.

OTOH, they LOVE lawyers when they have a good one doing a bang-up job on
their case.

To various, usually lesser, degrees, they feel the same way about
cabdrivers, mailmen, bureaucrats, plumbers, locksmiths, contractors, tow
truck drivers, and so on.

Lee K

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Jan 4, 2006, 9:08:45 PM1/4/06
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"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
> Thoughts?
>

Because of the old saw: If you have one lawyer in town, he goes hungry. If
you get two lawyers in town, they both get rich.

Steve

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Jan 4, 2006, 9:17:49 PM1/4/06
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"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:
>Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
>Thoughts?

Nope, no thoughts.


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Jan 4, 2006, 9:31:05 PM1/4/06
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In article <vJidneP00LYy4iHe...@usadatanet.net>,
"Lee K" <lee_k...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Traveling opposite directions on a lonely country road, a lawyer and a
redneck naturally collide head on. Thanks to mandatory airbags, neither
is seriously injured, just severely shaken up. They both get out and sit
together on the side of the road. The lawyer pulls out a hip flask and
hands it to the redneck, who takes a long swig. He hands it back to the
lawyer who puts it back in his pocket.

"Aren't you having any?" asks the redneck.

"Sure, as soon as the cops leave," replies the lawyer.

Ward Abbott

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Jan 4, 2006, 9:32:22 PM1/4/06
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On 4 Jan 2006 16:58:39 -0800, "Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:

>Thoughts?

Shyster.

larry

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Jan 4, 2006, 9:44:03 PM1/4/06
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Lowell wrote:
> Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
> Thoughts?
>

the only profession that if you didn't have it,
you wouldn't need it?

same as politician?

-larry / dallas

LoLo

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Jan 5, 2006, 9:45:49 AM1/5/06
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"Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
> Thoughts?
>
you have obviously never used one


Dennis

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:18:24 AM1/5/06
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On 4 Jan 2006 16:58:39 -0800, "Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:

>Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
>Thoughts?

It's just the 95% of the lawyers that are ruthless assholes that make
the rest look bad.

Dennis (evil)
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davegb

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:51:23 AM1/5/06
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I like lawyer jokes as much as the next guy, and tell them all the
time. But in truth, I've only had a few direct dealings with lawyers,
and they were mostly pleasant and reasonable. My late father-in-law was
a retired lawyer, and one of the nicest guys I ever met. And could have
written a book of lawyer jokes!
One good example. When I got my divorce, my wife and I both chose to go
with compentant but not vicious type lawyers. After many dealings back
and forth over a few months, the issue of joint custody of our 3 kids
came up. I asked for joint custody, which at that time, was very rare.
If the mother agreed to it, it happened. If not, no way! One of the
people who influenced my wife to agree was her lawyer, who told her he
didn't think I was the type to make her life miserable through the
kids. She agreed to joint custody and it worked out well.
I've had other good experiences with lawyers over the years. Like
everyone else, some are scum, but it's a minority, in my opinion.
Probably more scumbag lawyers than, say, engineers, because the law
profession would naturally attract a certain element who wanted the
power some lawyers use to intimidate others. But overall, I'd say
they're just like the rest of us.
But I'll still tell lawyer jokes!

jes

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Jan 5, 2006, 2:26:33 PM1/5/06
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Well, I'm a retired lawyer. I spent years studying and tons of $$ to
get that education, and passed a BIG exam at the end.

I guess Shakespear immortalized it in "first, let's kill all the
lawyers." We've been fair game ever since.

Sometimes a party doesn't like the message, so hate the messenger.
"Whad ya mean I gotta support my kid?"

Look at the positive the lawyers have put into society such as: when I
started working minimum wage for all women, regardless of age or work
experience, was the same as all men under the age of 18. It didn't
change until the law suit.

Dennis

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Jan 5, 2006, 3:26:55 PM1/5/06
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On 5 Jan 2006 11:26:33 -0800, "jes" <jesmi...@msn.com> wrote:

>Well, I'm a retired lawyer.
>I spent years studying

an overly complex system devised by lawyers.

>and tons of $$ to get that education,

taught by lawyers (and former lawyers).

>and passed a BIG exam at the end.

Created and administered by (you guessed it!) lawyers.

It's a self-perpetuating guild.

Kathleen

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Jan 5, 2006, 4:46:55 PM1/5/06
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> Sometimes a party doesn't like the message, so hate the messenger.
> "Whad ya mean I gotta support my kid?"
>
> Look at the positive the lawyers have put into society such as: when I
> started working minimum wage for all women, regardless of age or work
> experience, was the same as all men under the age of 18. It didn't
> change until the law suit.

I love my lawyer, because she's honest.
I always tell people who are lawyer-shopping to talk to at least 3 lawyers
and *don't* hire the one that tells you exactly what you want to hear.
With hope and heart,
Kathleen


Ward Abbott

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Jan 5, 2006, 6:12:49 PM1/5/06
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:46:55 -0600, "Kathleen"
<lovebi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I love my lawyer, because she's honest.

When she looses your case you though you were going to win will change
your love to loathing. That kind of relationship can go just as sour
and a bad marriage and impending divorce.


Logan Shaw

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:05:05 PM1/5/06
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Lowell wrote:
> Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."

Well, this being a group about frugality, how about because it's
expensive to hire one and they take a big cut if they work on
contingency?

- Logan

jtno...@yahoo.com

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:05:01 PM1/5/06
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Because they have the largely unaccountable power to ruin, and I mean
devastate permanently, people's lives. And they do so often to promote
their own selfish ends, and even to their own client's hurt. Sometimes
they do it with a pure Stalinist's heart-just for the enjoyment of
doing evil. Nobody in a democracy should have that kind of power, but
they do, and it doesn't matter that some are nice about it, power
corrupts over time, if not immediately.-Jitney

JackBenny

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Jan 6, 2006, 4:56:38 PM1/6/06
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On 4 Jan 2006 16:58:39 -0800, "Lowell" <lawd...@aol.com> wrote:

>Just curious what is behind the knee-jerk reaction "I hate lawyers."
>Thoughts?

Because they look for and find ways of screwing people out of money,
whether it's "right" or "wrong", they don't give a crap, they just do
their job which is to screw people out of money.
Also, they often have no moral compass, they just do what pays the
most, or "do their jobs", in Nazi-like fashion.
Lawywers often hate their jobs and themselves, as well. Many get out
of it after awhile.
Lawyers who file "frivolous" lawsuits are responsible for so many
stupid regulations, like putting "Not for human consumption" on some
stupid toy or such. Usually this costs a lot of money and just adds to
the cost of things.
Lawyers are responsible for making things more and more regulated and
bureaucratized in this country. All the sexual harrassment suits which
started out as a good idea but now are to the point of ridiculousness,
for example. All the people suing each other, just trying to get a bit
of money out of someone for anything they can dream up that might be
actionable.
We have become a Nation of people who do not want to take personal
responsibility but instead sue other people for "doing it to us".

I am not against a legitimate lawsuit, but the thing is, it has gotten
way out of hand in this country (U.S.).

So I hate lawyers.

Oh, and judges are former lawyers, and judges are often gigantic
jerks, passing judgement on others without being truly fair. Anyone
who's been to court on some minor infraction has undoubtedly run into
a judge who is a complete a-hole.

Our entire legal system is now based on "he who has enough money will
be found innocent". I'm generalizing of course, but you wanted to
know.

I hate lawyers.

A Man

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Jan 10, 2006, 2:41:45 PM1/10/06
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On 5 Jan 2006 20:05:01 -0800 in article <1136520301.648185.85560
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, jtno...@yahoo.com spoke thusly...
I have to say that my divorce lawyer (found via American Divorce Assoc for
Men- ADAM) was quite good and realistic. He was patient to answer all my
questions (and I had lots), and would tell me if I would be able to get
something, like:
Yes, you are likely to get this, so ask for it.
No, you are not likely to get that, don't waste your money.
No, don't ask for that, the judge will laugh at you and you'll look bad.

He also told me the definition of battery so SHE would not end up in jail!
(She was the violent one.) That was the best advice. OTOH, you have to prove
battery either with witnesses, a video, or physical marks. BTW, battery, in
Michigan, is:
1) unwanted touching, 2) taking something from your hand, like a phone, 3)
hitting or physical force upon your body (this may be assault).

Also, it is not a crime for your spouse to break down a door while you try to
call the police. It is not a crime for them to block a doorway either,
preventing your escape, so learn to get out windows. It is not a crime for
them to destroy or hide your property while you are legally married.

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