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February 2, 2009

From: "CLG_News" <clg_...@legitgov.org>
Date: February 2, 2009 11:24:58 AM GMT-05:00
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Subject: Minot base crew commander found dead

News Update from Citizens For Legitimate Government
02 Feb 2009
http://www.legitgov.org/
All items are here:
http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

Minot base crew commander found dead --Cause of death unclear 02 Feb
2009 The body of a missile combat crew commander from the Minot Air
Force Base was found by police, and the cause of his death is under
investigation, the Air Force says. A statement issued by the base
Sunday said the body of Capt. Jonathan Bayless, 28, was found Friday
night. Police did not give details and they are awaiting autopsy
results. Col. Christopher Ayres, the basebs 91st Missile Wing
commander, said Bayless was a training chief with the 91st Operations
Support Squadron. [See: Minot AFB Clandestine Nukes 'Oddities'.]

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Minot AFB Clandestine Nukes 'Oddities' By Lori Price,
www.legitgov.org Updated: 02 February 2009

Minot base crew commander found dead --Cause of death unclear 02 Feb
2009

The following section was compiled by 'The Pundit.'
Since the Minot story broke a week ago about the missing
nukeclandestine operation from Minot, we have the following (for
those who are paying attention):

1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots
3. All are now dead
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents' [Not all of them --LRP]

http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=10465
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070915/
BREAKINGNEWS/70915012
http://www.kxmc.com/News/161562.asp
http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=140988
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/20/news/state/136489.txt
http://www.komotv.com/news/local/9679367.html

Silly me, seeing more than there is to this story. I guess this is
just another coincidence.

But no doubt now that there will be more coincidences in the near
future because as I have stated before, you need about fourteen
signatures to get an armed nuke onto a B-52, and they may have told
their wives and friends.

"The Pundit"
*****

Minot AFB finalist for Global Strike Command 22 Jan 2009 North
Dakota's congressional delegation says Minot Air Force Base is one of
six finalists to be the home of the Air Force's new Global Strike
Command. The military created the command to better manage the
nation's nuclear arsenal. It comes after a series of embarrassing
missteps, including the flight of a B-52 bomber that was mistakenly
armed with six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and flown from Minot
Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana in August 2007.

Team to visit Minot AFB to plan for new B-52 squadron 10 Jan 2009
With Minot Air Force Base as the preferred site for a second squadron
of B-52 bombers, a team will visit the base early next month to help
plan for the new unit. Early last year, officials announced that a
second squadron of B-52s was planned for the Minot base.

Minot launch component device 'remains missing' --Minot AFB officer
to face court-martial 10 Dec 2008 A Minot Air Force Base officer
accused of stealing a missile launch control device will face a court-
martial, the military said. Capt. Paul Borowiecki, who was a missile
combat crew member assigned to the basebs 91st Missile Wing, is
accused of taking the launch control device in July 2005, rather than
destroying it as required when it was no longer in use. The Air Force
also said Borowiecki told officials that another officer had lied in
saying he destroyed a launch component. That device remains missing.
That other officer, whose name has not been released, has not been
charged.

Military brass to visit Minot base 30 Nov 2008 Secretary of Defense
Robert Gates and General Norton Schwartz, the Air Force chief of
staff, are scheduled to visit the Minot Air Force Base on Monday.
Schwartz was appointed by President [sic] Bush this summer during
leadership changes following the mishandling of nuclear weapons and
equipment by the Air Force, including at Minot.

Plans solidify for new B-52 squadron at Minot 21 Nov 2008 The Air
Force confirmed it wants to locate its fifth B-52H Stratofortress
squadron at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., Air Combat Command officials
announced Friday. The target date for standing up the unit is late
2009 or early 2010. North Dakotabs congressional delegation, briefed
on the plan prior to Fridaybs announcement, said the squadron would
have 10 planes, raising the number of combat-ready B-52Hs at Minot to
22.

AF mum on result of no-notice nuke inspection 20 Nov 2008 The 2nd
Bomb Wing at Barksdale Air Force Base, La., completed its first no-
notice nuclear surety inspection Nov. 17, but Air Force officials
would not say if the wing passed. It is the first no-notice
inspection the wing has completed since Strategic Air Command was
disbanded, according to Air Combat Command officials. In August 2007,
Barksdale airmen discovered a B-52 on their runway that had flown
from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., mistakenly [!] loaded with six
nuclear-tipped cruise missiles -- the first of two incidents that led
to a period of heavily scrutiny of the Air Forcebs nuclear enterprise.

Air Force: $5.6M to take rocket booster from ditch 03 Oct 2008 The
Air Force says it spent about $5.6 million in its efforts to recover
an unarmed booster rocket for an intercontinental ballistic missile
from a North Dakota ditch. An Air Force truck carrying the booster
for a Minuteman III overturned July 31 a few miles east of Parshall
in northwest North Dakota. An Air Force statement blames "driver and
safety observer error" for the accident. The truck was traveling from
Minot Air Force Base to a launch facility when it crashed on the
gravel road.

Air Force says officer stole launch control device 29 Sep 2008 A
Minot Air Force Base officer accused of stealing a classified missile
launch control device faces a hearing to determine whether he will
face a court martial. The Air Force said a hearing is scheduled
Tuesday at the base to evaluate evidence against Capt. Paul
Borowiecki, a missile combat crew member assigned to the 91st Missile
Wing.

Changes coming on nuclear training, inspection --Inspectors found
several deficiencies in the nuclear security provided at the 5th Bomb
Wing at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., during a Nuclear Surety
Inspection the base failed last year. 20 Sep 2008 Air Force leaders
announced changes to the organization, training practices and
inspection process of its nuclear enterprise following the servicebs
Nuclear Summit held on Sept. 18 at Bolling Air Force Base in
Washington, D.C. Officials reviewed the recommendations made by the
Task Force on Nuclear Weapons Management on Sept. 12 in a report that
ripped the Air Forcebs current nuclear structure proposing the
service realign all of its nuclear missions under Air Force Space
Command and rename it Air Force Strategic Command.

Advisers: Consolidate Air Force nuke command 12 Sep 2008 The Task
Force on Nuclear Weapons Management recommended the Air Force put all
its nuclear missions under Air Force Space Command and call the whole
thing Air Force Strategic Command. Defense Secretary Robert Gates
organized the task force -- which was headed by former Defense
Secretary James Schlesinger -- after axing the Air Forcebs top two
leaders last June due to its nuclear problems. The recommendations
Schlesinger announced Friday at the Pentagon also would mean that Air
Combat Command would lose its nuclear bomber mission.

Air Force officers sanctioned after sleeping on nuke job 29 Aug 2008
Three ballistic missile crew members have been punished for sleeping
during a sensitive task, the Air Force reported Thursday. Two first
lieutenants and a captain fell asleep on July 12 while in control of
a classified electronic part that contained old launch codes for
intercontinental nuclear missiles. It happened during the changing
out of electronic parts used to communicate with Minot Air Force Base
in North Dakota. Two officers are under investigation for lying about
destroying classified missile components, and another for alleged
sexual misconduct, the military reported.

Air Force Searches For Lost Launch Devices --Three Crew Members
Removed Over Allegations of Sex Abuse and Equipment Tampering 28 Aug
2008 The Air Force says at least three ballistic missile crew members
at bases in North Dakota and Montana have been taken off the job
while the military investigates allegations ranging from sexual abuse
to missing classified components used in underground launch control
centers. The Air Force announced Thursday that an officer who earlier
worked at Minot Air Force Base's 91st Space Wing notified the
military in May that he and another officer had lied about destroying
classified launch components in July 2005. "They were supposed to
destroy them and they signed documents saying they destroyed them,"
said Maj. Laurie A. Arellano, an Air Force spokeswoman. Instead, she
said, "they took them home." In May, one of the officers notified the
Air Force of the incident and "turned his launch components over to
the government." Arellano said the devices are used on equipment
inside the launch control center to detect equipment tampering. One
of the devices remains missing. "We only know of the whereabouts of
one for sure," Arellano said.

Navy relieves commander of air recon squadron 13 Aug 2008 The
commander of a Navy air reconnaissance squadron that provides the
president and the defense secretary the airborne ability to command
the nation's nuclear weapons has been relieved of duty, the Navy said
Tuesday. Cmdr. Shawn Bentley was relieved of duty Monday by the Navy
for loss of confidence in his ability to command, only three months
after taking the job. Capt. Brian Costello, commander of the Navy's
Strategic Communications Wing One, removed Bentley from command, said
Lt. Cmdr. Charlie Brown, a spokesman for the Naval Air Forces. The
primary duty of the squadron, nicknamed the "Ironman," is to provide
communication with ballistic missile submarines, Brown said. It is
also one of three squadrons that provides airborne communications for
the president and defense secretary to command and control the
nation's nuclear submarines, bombers and missile silos, according to
the Wing's official Web site.

U.S. fires captain of Japan-bound nuclear warship 31 Jul 2008 The
U.S. Navy said it had replaced the captain of a nuclear-powered
aircraft carrier scheduled for a controversial berth in Japan after
blaming him for a fire on board on the warship [?]. The United States
has been trying to allay fears over the planned stationing of the
George Washington in Japan, the only country to have suffered nuclear
attacks. Doubts about the ship's safety were renewed when a fire
broke out on board in May... U.S. Naval Air Forces said in a
statement it had fired commanding officer David C. Dykhoff and
another officer over the incident and installed Captain J.R. Haley as
the ship's new commander.

Air Force brigadier general dies of gunshot wound 28 Jul 2008 An Air
Force brigadier general died of a gunshot wound that likely was self-
inflicted, a spokesman said Monday. Brig. Gen. Thomas L. Tinsley, the
commander at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, suffered a
gunshot wound to his chest late Sunday night and was pronounced dead
within a half hour, said Col. Richard Walberg, who assumed command at
Elmendorf after Tinsley's death. "To the best information, it's
possible it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound," Walberg said at a
news conference. The weapon was likely a handgun. His previous 22-
month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of
staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under
pressure in an agency shake-up. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates
ousted both Mosely, the Air Force military chief, and Air Force
Secretary Michael W. Wynne, the agency's civilian head, holding them
accountable for failing to fully correct an erosion of nuclear-
related performance standards. One concern was a cross-country flight
in August 2007 of a B-52 carrying armed nuclear weapons.

US missile alert crew falls asleep on the job 25 Jul 2008 It was 9.30
in the evening. The crew of three air force members decided to rest a
little and within 15 minutes they were fast asleep. They awoke
several hours later. The only problem was that the room in which they
were snoozing was the missile alert facility at Minot air force base
in North Dakota. Directly beneath them was the underground control
centre containing the keys that can launch ballistic missiles, and in
their care were metal boxes containing the secret codes that allow
the nuclear button to be pressed. The incident is the latest in a
series of foul-ups and poor ratings for the Minot air force base.
Last summer a B-52 bomber was loaded with six air-launched nuclear
missiles and flown, unbeknownst to its pilots or crew, across
America. [All three men fell asleep--at 9:30 PM--and slept *for hours?*]

Air Force says officers fell asleep with nuke code --July 12 incident
was at Minot AFB, location of other incidents 24 Jul 2008 Three Air
Force officers fell asleep [!] while in control of an electronic
component that contained old launch codes for nuclear
intercontinental ballistic missiles, a violation of procedure, Air
Force officials said Thursday. It is the fourth incident in the past
year involving problems with secure handling of components of
America's nuclear weapons. The incident occurred July 12, during the
changing out of components used to facilitate secure communications
between an underground missile-control facility and missile silos
near Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, according to Col. Dewey
Ford, a spokesman for the Air Force Space Command in Colorado.

Air Force declares lost B-52 crew dead 24 Jul 2008 In a solemn
statement early Wednesday, 2nd Bomb Wing Commander Col. Robert
Wheeler bore bitter news of tragedy to Barksdale Air Force Base and
the surrounding community. The Air Force and Coast Guard have given
up hope any of the six crew members of a Barksdale B-52 that crashed
Sunday north of Guam are alive. Five of the lost airmen were assigned
to the 2nd Bomb Wing. The only other base in the world at which B-52s
are permanently assigned is Minot Air Force Base, N.D. Its 5th Wing
has been peppered for years with 2nd Bomb Wing personnel, and vice-
versa, and it has not been unusual over the years for a commander or
a vice commander to move from the 5th Wing to the 2nd Bomb Wing.

Air Force Finds Lax Nuclear Security 02 Jul 2008 Most overseas
storage sites for U.S. nuclear weapons, particularly in Europe, need
substantial improvements in physical security measures and the
personnel who guard the weapons, according to a newly available Air
Force report. The Blue Ribbon review of nuclear security was
conducted after it was discovered that a B-52 bomber had flown across
the United States, from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to
Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, with neither the pilots nor
ground crews aware that six cruise missiles under one wing held real
nuclear warheads.

Moseley: We Need a Failsafe to Human Error --A day after Defense
Secretary Robert Gates asked for and received his resignation June 5,
Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley gave this exclusive
interview to [Defense News] Vago Muradian. 09 Jun 2008 Q. And that
was where the problems occurred? Following the Minot incident, I
would say more than 95 percent of my focus has been about getting
this right, and we had a commander-directed inquiry. I commissioned
Maj. Gen. [Polly] Peyer to conduct a blue ribbon review, which gave
us 120 or so specific things to address. My fundamental tasking to
her was, "Is there something bigger here? Is this just an isolated
case of a human frailty or are there systemic bigger issues that we
have to find and fix?" Q. So this was right after the Minot incident?
A. I started it right after. The secretary went out there and General
Welch did an overall study. So those 120, I believe, is a start at
getting at where general officers should be. What is the echelon of
responsibility?

Gates recommends Schwartz as next Air Force chief --Gates asks Bush
to Allow Donley to Start as Air Force Secretary Without Senate
Confirmation 09 Jun 2008 Defense Secretary Robert Gates recommended
Monday that Gen. Norton Schwartz, a 35-year veteran with a background
in Air Force special operations, be the next Air Force chief. In a
sweeping shake up of the Air Force, Gates also formally sent former
Air Force official Michael Donley's name to the White House to be the
next secretary of the beleaguered service. Gates announced last
Thursday that he was removing Air Force Gen. Michael Moseley from the
chief's job and Michael Wynne as its top civilian. Gates asked Bush
to designate Donley as the acting secretary effective June 21 -- a
move that would allow him to begin work without waiting for Senate
confirmation.

Gates seeks Air Force leadership on handling of nuclear weapons 09
Jun 2008 In his search for new leadership atop the Air Force, Defense
Secretary Robert Gates is looking for a "new perspective" that will
fix long-standing problems in the handling of nuclear weapons...
Gates said at the time that his decision was based mainly on the
damning conclusions of an internal report on the mistaken shipment to
Taiwan of four Air Force fusing devices for ballistic missile nuclear
warheads. And he linked the underlying causes of that slip-up to
another startling incident: the North Dakota-to-Louisiana flight last
August of a B-52 bomber that was mistakenly armed with six nuclear-
tipped cruise missiles.

Minot Base Officials Say Airman Dies While On Leave 12 Sep 2007 The
Minot Air Force Base said an airman has died while on leave in
Virginia. Airman First Class Todd Blue, who was 20 years old, died
Monday while visiting with family members. The statement did not say
how he died. The base said Blue was a response force member assigned
to the 5th Security Forces Squadron. [The primary mission of the 5th
Security Forces Squadron is to 'provide 24-hour law enforcement and
security services for the 5th Bomb Wing and all tenant units assigned
to Minot AFB.' "Guardians of the Upper Realm" --The host wing on
Minot Air Force Base, the 5th Bomb Wing operates the B-52H
Stratofortress aircraft to provide global strike and combat-support
capabilities to geographic commanders. B-52 Stratofortress - Mission
--Air Combat Command's B-52 is a long-range, heavy bomber that can
perform a variety of missions... It can carry nuclear or precision
guided conventional ordnance with worldwide precision navigation
capability.]

AF Secretary Visits MAFB 14 Sep 2007 The top civilian in the Air
Force spent the afternoon at Minot Air Force Base today. Michael
Wynne, the Secretary of the Air Force, arrived at the base about 1 PM
to get a personal look at how nuclear weapons are stored, protected,
and handled. His visit comes two weeks after a B-52 bomber loaded
with six nuclear warheads was flown from Minot to Barksdale Air Force
Base.

Staging Nukes for Iran? By Larry Johnson 05 Sep 2007 My buddy...
reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when
they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a
specific site... Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping
off point for Middle East operations... Why would we want to
preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East
operations? His final point was to observe that someone on the inside
obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52
landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That
is something else. Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for
this? I canbt think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of
this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some
nukes and take them for a joy ride... Did someone at Barksdale try to
indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is
staging nukes for Iran?

*****
'Opposing' view:
The following email was sent to CLG on 19 September, anonymously.

Hello there,
Ibm a Staff Sergeant in the US Air Force. I do network security, so,
thatbs why Ibm emailing anonymously, even though I really donbt
feel itbs necessary. Ibm just paranoid like that, which is why
Ibm pretty good at my job. ;) Also, parts of what Ibm putting in
here are probably classified, which is the primary reason Ibm
sending this anonymously.
Anyway, I see a lot of people posting on Reddit about government
conspiracies about nukes and things like this. Itbs frustrating for
me because itbs really very silly. Please, let me explain some
background, to help you all understand whatbs going on in the
background for the Air Force:

Minot AFB is a dead-end base. Itbs the abyss of the Air Force, the
saying goes bWhy not Minot?b They have major retainability
problems there b people volunteer to go to Iraq, Korea, anywhere
just to get out of there. Beside its location (middle-of-nowhere
North Dakota), the base has very little real mission and spins its
wheels forever in drills that all result in the end of the world
since itbs a nuke base designed to fight the Cold War. But, there is
no Cold War for them to fight (at least not one that Minotbs golden
piece of real estate would be useful in fighting), so its people
probably feel pretty worthless and tired of fighting the now non-
existent Soviet Union. The base has already been re-aligned (more on
that in a moment) and itbs probably going to be BRACed into a
regional airport in a few decades. Ellison AFB in South Dakota has
already had its closure decided.

One of the biggest problems with killing off Minot is its core
mission b all of the nukes it has. Its weapons capability is moving
to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana as the AF further consolidates after
the Cold War and infrastructure budget cuts because of Iraq et al.
Moving weapons capability to Barksdale, in real world terms, means
moving the actual missiles that would deliver the nuclear warhead to
Barksdale. No big deal, conventional weapons move all the time.
Nuclear warheads, however, when transported for these reasons, are
moved by the Department of Energy b a very time consuming,
expensive, and burdensome process that someone else will have to
figure out much later once they finally decide to close the base.

So, the Air Forcebs solution is to move the missiles, and leave the
warheads behind, to be dealt with one day when all of us are retired
and don't have to worry about it. Thatbs what SHOULD have happened.
So the mission itself was pretty normal otherwise. (It may actually
be intentional to leave things this way, to prevent Congressional
involvement, as whatever Senator is from ND is probably desperate to
keep Minot around as long as possible; leaving the nukes, but
operationally stripping the base serves both sides purposes).

The mistake, and the reason everyone now knows about this, is that
the warheads werenbt removed from the missiles being moved to
Barksdale. I bet the guys on the ground in Barksdale were sure as
shit surprised when they cracked the payload open and saw a warhead. ;)

I know as much as I do because I work with a cross-trainee whose last
base was Barksdale as a munitions specialist. He was involved in this
process there; along with the various other missions Barksdale has
(itbs a pretty critical base in the AF). Anyway, you would think
there would be a pretty clear checklist for all of this, but
apparently no one even bothered. Doing what they do day-to-day, is
pretty standard operating procedure. People get lazy when they do the
same thing day after day, and therebs no less than a half dozen
teams who would be transferring these weapons around from storage
until theybre loaded. The idea of someone dropping the ball in the
AF is not exactly unusual (quite common, actually, heh), especially
when 4:30 rolls around and everyone wants to go home. If the next
step is to hand it off to the guys who remove the warhead, and itbs
1630 on a Friday, hell, letbs just leave it until Monday, since the
mission doesnbt fly until Tuesday anyway. Monday rolls around,
someone else takes over, and doesnbt know the job wasnbt finished
on Friday. There SHOULD be some paper trail for that kind of thing,
but then, like I said, people are lazy. Oh, and Minot usually fails
its nuclear operational readiness inspections. ;) Sorry to kill your
confidence in the military.

Ibve seen too much crazy stuff to believe in some massive
conspiracy, therebs too many people involved. Youbd have to kill
like 50 people to bcover upb moving nukes to Barksdale. Plus, what
would it achieve? Therebs already more than enough nukes at
Barksdale to blow the world up 3x over. Who needs 6 more? Seriously?
Plus, more accidents occur with conventional than nukes, since nukes
are computerized and designed to be super-duper safe. Conventional
weapons are built by the lowest bidder. [Yikes!] Ibd be more worried
about a fully-loaded F16 flying around NYC after 9/11 sucking up a
bird than a B52 with nukes flying around without anyone knowing it
was loaded with nukes. The pilots couldnbt "secretly" be in on it
and launch them, the interface wouldnbt be installed, the COMSEC
material wouldnbt be available, etc. Youbd have to kill half the
base to hide the paper trail necessary to give the pilots the ability
to launch.

Several people dying from Minot is bad, of course, but then, crazy
stuff happens. Motorcycle accidents, mind you, are the #1 non-war
cause of dead in the Air Force. The Captain who died wasnbt a pilot
(he was Combat Weather, as evidenced by his pewter beret in the photo
linked from your site). Captains are a dime a dozen, just like the
Security Forces troop who died. Yes, a part of the Security Forces
Squadron mission there would be do defend the nukes, but hebs not at
all involved in any of the process. He stands outside the door and
checks IDs. Seriously, thatbs it. I have 5 cops (as they're
generally called in the Air Force) I deal with every day where I work
because I do computer stuff, and they have zero clue whatbs
happening behind the door. They spend most of the day on the phone
chit chatting with friends at other security posts about the latest
dorm gossip about who slept with whom.

So, to conclude, just chill out a bit about the conspiracy, itbs
kinda silly. Plus, again, what would be the point? Itbs not a big
deal to authorize a nuke mission. After 9/11 the entire Barksdale
arsenal was loaded and on the flightline ready to fly. I wouldnbt
sweat 6 who someone forgot to unload.

Feel free to republish, maybe it'll educate a few people.

V/r
SSgt

*****
Rebuttal to 'Opposing View'
The following email was sent to CLG on 19 September.

Subject: comments closed?
http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html

Ibm NOT anonymous, and I take issue with the anonymous "ssgt"
statements.

Ibm a cold war vet from the US Navy, one who worked as part of an
operation designed to exhaust and bankrupt the Soviet military, by
constantly testing their limitations. This SSgt is a defacto shill
for a propaganda machine.

1st.

Bullsheep. Plain and simple. IF this "SSgt" was actually just
debunking a load of Steaming Holstein, none of his command would have
much issue with any of his statements, especially publicly available
facts such as retention rates and base activities that are noted on
google.com, mil.gov, wikipedia, and many other websites worldwide.
There is no need to be anonymous when youbre not releasing
classified data, is there? Saying "there is not a plot" is not
contrary to secure data, even if there is not a plot.

2nd

6 people dying within days of a world-record nuclear screw-up is
decidedly newsworthy, and suspicious, in itself. The rate of
fatalities in the military isnbt that high even in war zones.

3rd

The "Decider" has already stated that he believes the USA has the
right to bomb Iran, and that he will not certify that hebd refuse to
use nukes. "No option is off the table" as he is fond of saying. I
think thatbs pretty damn clear, being as it is coming from the
Commander In Chief.

4th

The military reporting of these incidents is itself contrary to
military secrecy, reason, and law. I suspect an altogether different
agenda. I believe that this high-level press coverage of a screw up,
carrying nukes on B52s, is designed to use the US Media [gasp,
theybve never done that before!] to pressure Iran to meet US demands.

a.

The US military would never release to the public any real classified
data [data recovery], especially including data about moved or
missing nukes, without authority from the White House.

b.

The US media is NOT entitled to print or distribute classified
information, and is NEVER brought-in as it was in this case, so
rapidly or on such an elemental and critical faux paus.

c.

The only logical excuse for the sudden and detail-filled news
coverage of this event is that of an intentional release of data for
political purposes.

5th

Declaring that the US Military is lying in the media isnbt illegal
provided that one does not expose any actual events or secrets, or
violate the UCMJ by disobeying a direct order. All soldiers still
have their civil rights. These rights are merely waived as needed for
valid military purposes, as it is the job of a soldier to take
abnormal risks and bear state secrets.

If it was really a secret, the anonymous sergeant would now be a
traitor to the USA, just by talking about it. Thus, the implication
that the letter is legit, is ALSO an implication that the letter is
NOT legit. There is no need to be anonymous if itbs not a secret.
QED. This is an example of a circular argument.

Thus, "I" am not violating any UCMJ or Federal laws by stating that
itbs bunk. You canbt cite me for a double negative: Ibm stating
that what doesnbt exist, doesnbt not exist. We call that the First
Amendment, and whether Dumbya likes it or not, itbs still in force.
Ibm saying that there is no pink elephant.

The missiles were moved, without any doubts, intentionally; OR The
missiles were never moved and the press coverage is based on
propaganda to scare Iran; OR the missiles were moved and the press
coverage is based on propaganda to scare Iran. You canbt prove or
disprove what the US military has done without EXTERNAL data.
Theybll say whatever they want to suit themselves.

Sincerely,
Don Lee E3/EW
US Navy vet
ASWOC 574 Jacksonville FL
Top Secret and other clearances [inactive]

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