> I also wasnt aware that Zach, one of the founders, was "pushed out"
> and wont say much except "it didnt end on a good note"
> http://www.hive76.org/hoeken

> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Joe Kerman <jke...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
> > the software, and hardware, are closed-source, specifically :(
> > http://pastebin.com/wAsbWqh6

> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Pete Prodoehl <ras...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:

> >> Agreed... Obviously I chose a RepRap because I felt it was the best
> choice
> >> for me, and I think it makes sense that the Makerspace has a Makerbot
> >> Replicator, which is probably more "user friendly" to people that some
> weird
> >> RepRap might be.

> >> I wonder if their new software will support our 1st gen Replicator, and
> how
> >> much better it is than Replicator G. Also, it appears this new software
> is
> >> not open source... urgh.

> >> Pete

> >> On 9/19/12 8:24 PM, Have Blue wrote:

> >>> Hey, I won't try to convince you differently - look how open/hackable
> >>> the Apple II was, just as Woz intended.  Compare to what Apple
> products
> >>> have become - closed black boxes that are not to be tinkered with.
>  Even
> >>> Zach Smith seems to have become disillusioned by the closed
> development:
> >>> http://www.hive76.org/hoeken

> >>> I prefer the 'free love' ethos of the RepRap side myself, but I'm very
> >>> happy that Makerbot is there to deliver the technology to a much wider
> >>> audience.  Plus, we have Makerbot to thank for hiring Skimbal to do
> >>> nothing more than design cool stuff that happens to be 3D printable -
> I
> >>> don't think that would have happened in a pure RepRap-ish world.

> >>> In the end, we're a much richer 3D printing world with Makerbot than
> >>> without, IMHO.

> >>> On 9/19/2012 8:00 PM, Ed Hagopian wrote:

> >>>> I guess. I choose to follow the Free R&D of everyone on the various
> >>>> forums for the Prusa, MendelMax, and Ultimaker. I can also repair my
> >>>> printer if it breaks and even improve on it myself. This is a Mac
> >>>> computer, closed source, given to you how they think you wanted it.
> >>>> Not even close to the ethos they started with. The power of the
> >>>> consumerization of manufacturing lies in that with open source
> >>>> software and open source hardware, everyone can instantly improve or
> >>>> evolve everyone else's designs as soon as they upload them, and its
> >>>> instantly spread through out the world via the Internet. I could
> >>>> forgive them if they lowed the cost on the 1700 replicator. It just
> >>>> feels like they sold out. I welcome being convinced differently.

> >> --