Blowers n such

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Bret Daniel

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Mar 15, 2012, 11:50:08 AM3/15/12
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Hi,

Does anyone have a line on a used version of this?

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-PSC-Blower-1TDP7

Or anything that is single phase, 110V/60Hz that will deliver upto
150CFM and has an opening of at least 2"x2"

Initially, was going to use the Kirby for the blower, but the noise
level is severe. A small blower as above could do the job nicely.

Will also need some assistance in creating a electronic RPM regulator
for adjusting speed, etc.

For the casting furnace.

-Bret

Ron Bean

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Mar 15, 2012, 12:19:51 PM3/15/12
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>Does anyone have a line on a used version of this?
>
>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-PSC-Blower-1TDP7
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>Or anything that is single phase, 110V/60Hz that will deliver upto
>150CFM and has an opening of at least 2"x2"

FWIW, I have a copy of Dave Gingery's book on building centrifugal
blowers. But Tom can probably scrounge one :-).


Royce Pipkins

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Mar 15, 2012, 12:22:45 PM3/15/12
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The linked blower was the blower that Dan Dricken used on his furnace.
The cool thing about it was that it was really quiet. It was easy to
have a conversation near the furnace.

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Tim .

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Mar 15, 2012, 1:11:18 PM3/15/12
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Looks like you could probably get by with a bathroom vent fan or two.  I use a couple of these fans to blow heat down my chimney that is cutoff in my attic.  It is basically using my attic as a solar heat collector.  It works pretty good in spring and fall.  The ones I have both pulled 50W though not ~80.
 
-Tim
 

 
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Tom Gralewicz

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Mar 15, 2012, 1:32:49 PM3/15/12
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Controlling the speed of a 120V single phase motor is somewhere between tough and impossible.

I have a 12V fan like this I'll bring it.

Tom
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ironmonger

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Mar 15, 2012, 1:57:11 PM3/15/12
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When you build furnaces with a lot of back-pressure a higher static pressure blower is a good move. Look for blowers from high efficiency furnaces, they have the correct pressure ratings. As far as regulating the air flow a gate it the outlet works great. Many commercial furnaces admit the gas at the inlet of the blower to create maximium fuel/air mixing.

Paul

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Bret Daniel

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Mar 15, 2012, 2:13:02 PM3/15/12
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Agreed,

Blowers I have built int he past have all had a custom slide valve
(basically a metal plate that slides in and out to restrict flow).
Was thinking we may be able to build a trick blower control with our
collective electronics expertise.

A concept like:
Lighting the furnace speed: very low air flow to start the furnace
Opertating speed for propane setting/button
Operating speed settings for various waste oils mods, etc.

Possibly even contolling the fuel valve(s) as well.

I will update the WIKI page soon with addtional items.

Thanks for the input! The collective is good, the collective is
strong!

-Bret


On Mar 15, 12:57 pm, ironmonger <psperb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you build furnaces with a lot of back-pressure a higher static
> pressure blower is a good move. Look for blowers from high efficiency
> furnaces, they have the correct pressure ratings. As far as regulating the
> air flow a gate it the outlet works great. Many commercial furnaces admit
> the gas at the inlet of the blower to create maximium fuel/air mixing.
>
> Paul
>
> No trees were killed sending this message, but a tremendous number of
> electrons were terribly inconvienced...
> On Mar 15, 2012 12:32 PM, "Tom Gralewicz" <m...@ieee.org> wrote:
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> > Controlling the speed of a 120V single phase motor is somewhere between
> > tough and impossible.
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> > I have a 12V fan like this I'll bring it.
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> > Tom
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FrankenMacher

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Mar 16, 2012, 10:53:09 AM3/16/12
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I have a High efficiency furnace that you can scavenge the blower if
you want it for free. But i have another suggestion. a Beckett oil
burner is like a 1/3 HP blow drier. Some heat/ac shops may give them
away. But you can pick them up for $50 - 100 when winter is done,
craigslist and Ebay. Remove the oil pump, and regulate air flow with
the air intake.
Good luck,
Matt

ironmonger

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Mar 16, 2012, 5:45:46 PM3/16/12
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Or even keep the oil pump an burn bio diesel...

Paul

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