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Mrspeed700  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 9:41 pm
From: Mrspeed700 <mrspeed...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:41:04 -0400 (EDT)
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 10:12 pm
From: Ed Hagopian <edhagop...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:12:03 -0700 (PDT)
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That sounds equally awesome and insanely nasty. How does one go about
figuring out those two A: Mix without fume fun for the home family, and B:
work as a penetrating oil?


 
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From: ironmonger <psperb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:22:44 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MakerSpace] Re: penetrating oils
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A follow up to this article noted that the acetone and the oil were not
co-miscible. The author had substituted acetone for a more nasty solvent
with out actually trying it. Try mixing the ATF with mineral spirits
instead. Those two work just as well.

Paul
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 More options Oct 3 2012, 6:05 pm
From: Jack'D <jack.drisc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
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Thanks for posting this, I'm always interested in finding out ways to
accomplish things using substances other than black-box "wonder cures".  I
did a bit more research and found the following:

This discussion on a machinist's forum<http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/archive/index.php/t-47279.html>has a response from the author:
"The original homemade penetrating oil mixture called for using
trichloroethelyne as the solvent. I cannot recommend trichlor for home shop
use and definitely not for anything slightly resembling a business. Both
PSF and ATF will form emulsions with acetone under mild agitation
sufficient to thin the oil enough to penetrate. Upon standing, these will
separate. Acetone performs better than the other commonly available organic
solvents, such as methanol, but not as well as trichlor." Others in the
thread suggest replacing the acetone with "mineral spirits of turpentine"
(or aliphatic mineral spirits or stoddard solvent).  

After some more research into these, I found this excellent thread that
goes into a similar home mix called "Ed's Red"<http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2506029>,
often used by gun cleaners.  It very helpfully goes into the function of
each of the ingredients (turpentine, ATF, and aliphatic mineral spirits,
lanolin is optional), the history, and the developments of modern
substitutes.  It's based on an older formula, but for example, a
substitution for sperm whale oil had to be found after the 70s.

There's a lot of other formulas available on the Homemade firearm Cleaners
and Lubricants<http://flashoffroad.com/Articles/firearm_cleaner/cleaner.htm>page.

-Jack


 
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Jack'D  
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 More options Oct 3 2012, 6:20 pm
From: Jack'D <jack.drisc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Oh, and when he says PSF it's referring to power steering fluid, very
similar to ATF.


 
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 More options Oct 3 2012, 6:29 pm
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Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:29:51 -0500
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Excellent links - thanks, Jack!

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 More options Oct 3 2012, 6:43 pm
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Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:43:27 -0400 (EDT)
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Just checked them out -cool.
Rich

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