Stained Glass Class - Nov 11th

[jfer...@midsouthmakers.org]

Hello Makers,

We’ll be creating a ~5×7 stained glass project. Participants are encouraged to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby, etc) everything else will be provided.

We will be doing two 4 Person classes to learn how to create stained glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign ups we’ll plan another day to do this event again.

Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do not need to have a WordPress account to sign up)

The cost for the class is $20 per person. There is a button to pay for the class on the events page in the links below.

11:00 AM Class: http://www.midsouthmakers.org/events/stained-glass-class-1100am/

3:00 PM Class: http://www.midsouthmakers.org/events/stained-glass-class-300pm/

Please contact me directly if you are having any issues signing up.

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- Joe Ferguson
http://www.midsouthmakers.org

[John Wood]

Will this be recorded for those who can't attend? 

Holiday weekend and all...

John

[MemphisArtGuy]

Ehh bad planning?

[John Wood]

Veterans Day is Monday the 12th. Kids are out of school and everything.

[Joe Ferguson]

November 11th is Veterans Day. Anyone who would otherwise join in on the stained glass class shouldn't fear. We can do this class again another time. 

Those that can make it, great. We already have 3/4 of the 3pm class filled, and the 11am class still has all 4 spots open.

[Danny Chamberlin]

That is also the same weekend as Memphis Comic and Fanatsy convention at the Hilton

Danny

[Danny Chamberlin]

Whoops, and there's also a MidSouthCon concomm meeting that day also.
Danny

[John Wood]

Veteran's Day observance is Monday the 12th.

its spelled Fantasy

and there are 4 lights

[Joe Ferguson]

If the observance is Monday, then you'll have all day Sunday for the class right? :D

[John Wood]

I, and possibly others, will be out of town for the weekend. 

That's why I was asking. More for me, not necessarily others. Unless anybody wants to go camping? (threadjacking possibility) 

[Danny Chamberlin]

It's spelled however I want it when I've been up since noon yesterday :)

No, there are 5

Danny

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:57 AM, John Wood <jwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Kara Ferguson]

Please take in to consideration that there are 30+ members of the Makers. It would be impossible to consider every member's schedule when planning a class. Also, I'm sure the teacher has a busy schedule too. I'm sure Rachel would be happy to share her skills with us again. 

Obviously, I can't speak for her, but it seems highly unlikely that she'd be all "No, if you can't come on the 11th I will NEVER do another stained glass class."

In any case, I'm looking forward to it! Thanks Rachel!

-k

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[John Wood]

Thanks Kara

I was really just asking if the class would be recorded. I'm still wondering... I'd like to participate, but I won't be able to. 

But if there were a video of the class I think it could benefit a few people.

I wasn't trying to stir up issues with the planning or criticise the choice of dates. 

[Kara Ferguson]

Why would we record a class for people who can't attend if we're going to do the class again?! And why would be record a class for people who can't be there, if the people who are going PAID to be there?

[Kara Ferguson]

Not, trying to be a pain. But I think those are valid questions to consider.

[Sonny Mounicou]

In the past, several events had been recorded and I think its a fair question to ask if this one would be too.  There is clearly a difference between a hands-on class where an instructor is showing you what to do and a video.  I don't think paying for the hands-on portion is unreasonable even if the course is available online.  You are effectively paying for someone to be able to answer your questions and critique your process.  And the notion of recording a session while charging for participation would be very similar to what NYC Resistor and Alpha Labs do in NYC.  There are numerous benefits, but I don't think John was questioning the rationale.  He was just looking for a simple yes/no.

--Sonny

[rachel donndelinger]

Hey guys!!!
I just noticed all the emails, sorry I haven't piped in earlier! 
The classes for the 11th is only a  start.  As indicated in this thread, there is an overwhelming want for this class. I plan on teaching this class and more. There are many wonderful projects and techniques to be learned through stained glass. We will just be scratching the surface.  I am looking forward to this class and many more.
Also, thank you Kara, for answering the questions I didn't see earlier :)

Rachel

[Kara Ferguson]

Rachel,

Are we going to be using any blue glass for the class? 

-k

[jfer...@midsouthmakers.org]

The 3pm Class is booked up. All 4 slots of the 11am class are still open. If you have any issues booking a spot, let me know.

[rachel donndelinger]

Kara,
I'm planning on having an assortment of Colors and textures for the classes. But if you have a certain color or particular Color scheme in mind, by all means, feel free to bring your own glass to work with. Now, with that being said, please make sure the class is an "art" grade. I suggest hobby lobby locally. Online, Delphiglass.com is your best bet. Also, I believe Mary and Dan have found a source through amazon they are buying glass for fusion. The fusion glass can be used for stained glass, but only for small projects. The fusing glass is just slightly weaker than normal "stained glass" glass. Spectrum is a great brand to start out with. Look for describers such as opals, cathedral, transparents, baroque, silvercoat, or waterglass just to name a few. Stay away from "rough rolled" glass as a beginner, as it takes a more expert cutter to work with.
If there are any other questions I can answer before hand, please feel free to contact me. I'm really looking forward to working with everyone again!  Irs been way too long since we had done classes.
I would also like to add, for everyone not able to schedule the 11th, I am definitely open to any suggestions of when we schedule another class for this panel. We will be working in the leaded came technique which is used for larger scale panels and projects. Also, there is the copper foil technique used for lamp shades and small Multi dimensional objects..... boxes,ornaments, .... I plan on doing that after thanksgiving.
I look forward to everyones comments

Rachel

[Kara Ferguson]

Thanks for the resources Rachel! I have an allergy to cobalt (which is in blue glass, and a whole bunch of other weird stuff) so I was trying to decided if I need to get some gloves or something as a precaution.

When I ordered my glass cutter amazon recommended also buying glass oil, but I didn't. Is that something I should have gotten with it?

I would love to learn how to do fused glass! I have a few jewelry prices that are done that way.

[rachel donndelinger]

I have plenty,  no worries

[Mary Hess]

I will not have my schedule for a little bit, I hope there will still be spots open when I get my work schedule.  If not, I guess I'll catch the next one.

 

Oh, I have been looking up fused glass technique.  The type of glass used is usualy the same, and we can use the kiln to fuse.  I have a list of things on Amazon that I am going to buy to work on fused glass.  When I get the time and the supplies, I will let you know and we can see if we can figure out fusing.

[John Wood]

I'm glad you mentioned that Mary.

I checked on the manufacturer's website, Evenheat, they say that kiln can't be used for glass. There's no explanation as to why. 

Anyone have any ideas why this might be?

[Dan Hess]

From everything I can find on their site, I don't really see anything that details that kiln can't be used for glass.  Looking into it further, glass kilns typically have elements in the lid, or in the case of even heat kilns they pretty much turn em upside down.  The placement of the element is only important when it comes to finer control over larger pieces above most typical fused glass jewelry pieces.  Most glass fusing is done in the 1300-1600 F range, while this kiln will go up to just a little over 2200 F.  If they stated anywhere that it isn't to be used for glass it likely because it's a ceramics kiln and not one of their glass kilns.  The only real thing is, unless you're needing super fine control over some rather large pieces of glass, then a ceramics kiln will work just fine for glass.  I suspect they want you to buy one of their fancy glass kilns instead.

Now this is all only when it comes to reading about it, so in practice may be different, or someone with a little more know might be able to speak to it better.

Thanks,

Daniel H.

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[John Wood]

I couldn't agree more. Could be a marketing strategy like you say. 

According to Teresa White, a glass artist I spoke with last week. The kiln would need to go to 1400F and anneal between 900-1000F for about a half hour per quarter inch thickness of glass. So I don't see why this kiln wouldn't work.

My biggest concern would be to cause damage to the kiln. If we can avoid that, I'd love to make it work.

BTW, Teresa White offers classes in glass work at her studio on Hollywood if anyone's interested. Her classes range from $50 to $100 and there's a Living Social coupon available for her classes too. I'm seriously considering going. 

John

[MemphisArtGuy]

Ah Teresa Whites one of my fellow alumni from MCA's. She owes me a class I got on groupon. Was thinking of redeeming it next year, but if your getting a class John, I be more than willing to go as the comic relief roll, or would I embarase you too much.  =D

 BTW if any one knows glass it's her!

-Dru

[John Wood]

Thanks Dru. 

If I sign up, you'll be the 3rd to know.

John

[jfer...@midsouthmakers.org]

We still have all 4 slots open for the 11am class on November 11th.

We’ll be creating a ~5×7 stained glass project. Participants are encouraged to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby, etc) everything else will be provided.

 

We will be doing two 4 Person classes to learn how to create stained glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign ups we’ll plan another day to do this event again.

 

Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do not need to have a WordPress account to sign up)

 

The cost for the class is $20 per person. There is a button to pay for the class on the events page in the links below.
11:00 AM Class:

http://www.midsouthmakers.org/events/stained-glass-class-1100am/

--
- Joe Ferguson
http://www.midsouthmakers.org

[MemphisArtGuy]

Just a reminder, I have a booking pending/payment sent. Let me know if there is any issues with paypal as they have been less than satisfactory lately.

Thanks,

-Dru

On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:39:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Ferguson wrote:

We still have all 4 slots open for the 11am class on November 11th.

[Joe Ferguson]

We have 1 spot open for the 11:00 AM class. Hope everyone is looking forward to Sunday!

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[Joe Ferguson]

For anyone interested in a last minute slot, we have 1 opening for the stained glass class at 3pm tomorrow, Sunday 11/11. The 11:00am class is booked up!

[rachel donndelinger]

We're going to have an awesome time tomorrow...  looking forward to working with everyone :)