I couldn't agree more. Could be a marketing strategy like you say.
According to Teresa White, a glass artist I spoke with last week. The kiln
would need to go to 1400F and anneal between 900-1000F for about a half
hour per quarter inch thickness of glass. So I don't see why this kiln
wouldn't work.
My biggest concern would be to cause damage to the kiln. If we can avoid
that, I'd love to make it work.
BTW, Teresa White offers classes in glass work at her studio on Hollywood
if anyone's interested. Her classes range from $50 to $100 and there's a
Living Social coupon available for her classes too. I'm seriously
considering going.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Dan Hess <dan9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From everything I can find on their site, I don't really see anything that
> details that kiln can't be used for glass. Looking into it further, glass
> kilns typically have elements in the lid, or in the case of even heat kilns
> they pretty much turn em upside down. The placement of the element is only
> important when it comes to finer control over larger pieces above most
> typical fused glass jewelry pieces. Most glass fusing is done in the
> 1300-1600 F range, while this kiln will go up to just a little over 2200 F.
> If they stated anywhere that it isn't to be used for glass it likely
> because it's a ceramics kiln and not one of their glass kilns. The only
> real thing is, unless you're needing super fine control over some rather
> large pieces of glass, then a ceramics kiln will work just fine for glass.
> I suspect they want you to buy one of their fancy glass kilns instead.
> Now this is all only when it comes to reading about it, so in practice may
> be different, or someone with a little more know might be able to speak to
> it better.
> Thanks,
> Daniel H.
> Google Voice: (901) 214-5326
> - Copying one is plagiarism, copying many is research.
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:34 AM, John Wood <jwoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm glad you mentioned that Mary.
>> I checked on the manufacturer's website, Evenheat, they say that kiln
>> can't be used for glass. There's no explanation as to why.
>> Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Mary Hess <mfpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I will not have my schedule for a little bit, I hope there will still be
>>> spots open when I get my work schedule. If not, I guess I'll catch the
>>> next one.
>>> Oh, I have been looking up fused glass technique. The type of glass
>>> used is usualy the same, and we can use the kiln to fuse. I have a list of
>>> things on Amazon that I am going to buy to work on fused glass. When I get
>>> the time and the supplies, I will let you know and we can see if we can
>>> figure out fusing.
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>> rachel0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have plenty, no worries
>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 1:03 PM, "Kara Ferguson" <karamf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the resources Rachel! I have an allergy to cobalt (which is
>>>>> in blue glass, and a whole bunch of other weird stuff) so I was trying to
>>>>> decided if I need to get some gloves or something as a precaution.
>>>>> When I ordered my glass cutter amazon recommended also buying glass
>>>>> oil, but I didn't. Is that something I should have gotten with it?
>>>>> I would love to learn how to do fused glass! I have a
>>>>> few jewelry prices that are done that way.
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>> rachel0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Kara,
>>>>>> I'm planning on having an assortment of Colors and textures for the
>>>>>> classes. But if you have a certain color or particular Color scheme in
>>>>>> mind, by all means, feel free to bring your own glass to work with. Now,
>>>>>> with that being said, please make sure the class is an "art" grade. I
>>>>>> suggest hobby lobby locally. Online, Delphiglass.com is your best bet.
>>>>>> Also, I believe Mary and Dan have found a source through amazon they are
>>>>>> buying glass for fusion. The fusion glass can be used for stained glass,
>>>>>> but only for small projects. The fusing glass is just slightly weaker than
>>>>>> normal "stained glass" glass. Spectrum is a great brand to start out with.
>>>>>> Look for describers such as opals, cathedral, transparents, baroque,
>>>>>> silvercoat, or waterglass just to name a few. Stay away from "rough rolled"
>>>>>> glass as a beginner, as it takes a more expert cutter to work with.
>>>>>> If there are any other questions I can answer before hand, please
>>>>>> feel free to contact me. I'm really looking forward to working with
>>>>>> everyone again! Irs been way too long since we had done classes.
>>>>>> I would also like to add, for everyone not able to schedule the 11th,
>>>>>> I am definitely open to any suggestions of when we schedule another class
>>>>>> for this panel. We will be working in the leaded came technique which is
>>>>>> used for larger scale panels and projects. Also, there is the copper foil
>>>>>> technique used for lamp shades and small Multi dimensional objects.....
>>>>>> boxes,ornaments, .... I plan on doing that after thanksgiving.
>>>>>> I look forward to everyones comments
>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 10:13 AM, "Kara Ferguson" <karamf...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Rachel,
>>>>>>> Are we going to be using any blue glass for the class?
>>>>>>> -k
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:37 AM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>>>> rachel0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey guys!!!
>>>>>>>> I just noticed all the emails, sorry I haven't piped in earlier!
>>>>>>>> The classes for the 11th is only a start. As indicated in this
>>>>>>>> thread, there is an overwhelming want for this class. I plan on teaching
>>>>>>>> this class and more. There are many wonderful projects and techniques to be
>>>>>>>> learned through stained glass. We will just be scratching the surface. I
>>>>>>>> am looking forward to this class and many more.
>>>>>>>> Also, thank you Kara, for answering the questions I didn't see
>>>>>>>> earlier :)
>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2012 10:05 AM, "jfergu...@midsouthmakers.org" <
>>>>>>>> jfergu...@midsouthmakers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Makers,
>>>>>>>>> We’ll be creating a ~5×7 stained glass project. Participants are
>>>>>>>>> encouraged to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby,
>>>>>>>>> etc) everything else will be provided.
>>>>>>>>> We will be doing *two 4 Person classes* to learn how to create
>>>>>>>>> stained glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign
>>>>>>>>> ups we’ll plan another day to do this event again.
>>>>>>>>> Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do not
>>>>>>>>> need to have a WordPress account to sign up)
>>>>>>>>> The cost for the class is *$20 per person*. There is a button to
>>>>>>>>> pay for the class on the events page in the links below.
Ah Teresa Whites one of my fellow alumni from MCA's. She owes me a class I got on groupon. Was thinking of redeeming it next year, but if your getting a class John, I be more than willing to go as the comic relief roll, or would I embarase you too much. =D
On Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:43:52 AM UTC-5, John Wood wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. Could be a marketing strategy like you say.
> According to Teresa White, a glass artist I spoke with last week. The kiln > would need to go to 1400F and anneal between 900-1000F for about a half > hour per quarter inch thickness of glass. So I don't see why this kiln > wouldn't work.
> My biggest concern would be to cause damage to the kiln. If we can avoid > that, I'd love to make it work.
> BTW, Teresa White offers classes in glass work at her studio on Hollywood > if anyone's interested. Her classes range from $50 to $100 and there's a > Living Social coupon available for her classes too. I'm seriously > considering going.
> John
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Dan Hess <dan...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> From everything I can find on their site, I don't really see anything >> that details that kiln can't be used for glass. Looking into it further, >> glass kilns typically have elements in the lid, or in the case of even heat >> kilns they pretty much turn em upside down. The placement of the element >> is only important when it comes to finer control over larger pieces above >> most typical fused glass jewelry pieces. Most glass fusing is done in the >> 1300-1600 F range, while this kiln will go up to just a little over 2200 F. >> If they stated anywhere that it isn't to be used for glass it likely >> because it's a ceramics kiln and not one of their glass kilns. The only >> real thing is, unless you're needing super fine control over some rather >> large pieces of glass, then a ceramics kiln will work just fine for glass. >> I suspect they want you to buy one of their fancy glass kilns instead.
>> Now this is all only when it comes to reading about it, so in practice >> may be different, or someone with a little more know might be able to speak >> to it better.
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel H.
>> Google Voice: (901) 214-5326
>> - Copying one is plagiarism, copying many is research.
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:34 AM, John Wood <jwo...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
>>> I'm glad you mentioned that Mary.
>>> I checked on the manufacturer's website, Evenheat, they say that kiln >>> can't be used for glass. There's no explanation as to why.
>>> Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Mary Hess <mfp...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I will not have my schedule for a little bit, I hope there will still >>>> be spots open when I get my work schedule. If not, I guess I'll catch the >>>> next one.
>>>> Oh, I have been looking up fused glass technique. The type of glass >>>> used is usualy the same, and we can use the kiln to fuse. I have a list of >>>> things on Amazon that I am going to buy to work on fused glass. When I get >>>> the time and the supplies, I will let you know and we can see if we can >>>> figure out fusing.
>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>> rache...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>> I have plenty, no worries
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 1:03 PM, "Kara Ferguson" <kara...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the resources Rachel! I have an allergy to cobalt (which >>>>>> is in blue glass, and a whole bunch of other weird stuff) so I was trying >>>>>> to decided if I need to get some gloves or something as a precaution.
>>>>>> When I ordered my glass cutter amazon recommended also buying glass >>>>>> oil, but I didn't. Is that something I should have gotten with it?
>>>>>> I would love to learn how to do fused glass! I have a >>>>>> few jewelry prices that are done that way.
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>>> rache...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Kara,
>>>>>>> I'm planning on having an assortment of Colors and textures for the >>>>>>> classes. But if you have a certain color or particular Color scheme in >>>>>>> mind, by all means, feel free to bring your own glass to work with. Now, >>>>>>> with that being said, please make sure the class is an "art" grade. I >>>>>>> suggest hobby lobby locally. Online, Delphiglass.com is your best bet. >>>>>>> Also, I believe Mary and Dan have found a source through amazon they are >>>>>>> buying glass for fusion. The fusion glass can be used for stained glass, >>>>>>> but only for small projects. The fusing glass is just slightly weaker than >>>>>>> normal "stained glass" glass. Spectrum is a great brand to start out with. >>>>>>> Look for describers such as opals, cathedral, transparents, baroque, >>>>>>> silvercoat, or waterglass just to name a few. Stay away from "rough rolled" >>>>>>> glass as a beginner, as it takes a more expert cutter to work with. >>>>>>> If there are any other questions I can answer before hand, please >>>>>>> feel free to contact me. I'm really looking forward to working with >>>>>>> everyone again! Irs been way too long since we had done classes. >>>>>>> I would also like to add, for everyone not able to schedule the >>>>>>> 11th, I am definitely open to any suggestions of when we schedule another >>>>>>> class for this panel. We will be working in the leaded came technique which >>>>>>> is used for larger scale panels and projects. Also, there is the copper >>>>>>> foil technique used for lamp shades and small Multi dimensional >>>>>>> objects..... boxes,ornaments, .... I plan on doing that after thanksgiving.
>>>>>>> I look forward to everyones comments
>>>>>>> Rachel >>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 10:13 AM, "Kara Ferguson" <kara...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rachel,
>>>>>>>> Are we going to be using any blue glass for the class?
>>>>>>>> -k
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:37 AM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>>>>> rache...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey guys!!!
>>>>>>>>> I just noticed all the emails, sorry I haven't piped in earlier!
>>>>>>>>> The classes for the 11th is only a start. As indicated in this >>>>>>>>> thread, there is an overwhelming want for this class. I plan on teaching >>>>>>>>> this class and more. There are many wonderful projects and techniques to be >>>>>>>>> learned through stained glass. We will just be scratching the surface. I >>>>>>>>> am looking forward to this class and many more. >>>>>>>>> Also, thank you Kara, for answering the questions I didn't see >>>>>>>>> earlier :)
>>>>>>>>> Rachel >>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2012 10:05 AM, "jfer...@midsouthmakers.org<javascript:>" >>>>>>>>> <jfer...@midsouthmakers.org <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Makers,
>>>>>>>>>> We’ll be creating a ~5×7 stained glass project. Participants are >>>>>>>>>> encouraged to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby, >>>>>>>>>> etc) everything else will be provided.
>>>>>>>>>> We will be doing *two 4 Person classes* to learn how to create >>>>>>>>>> stained glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign >>>>>>>>>> ups we’ll plan another day to do this event again.
>>>>>>>>>> Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do >>>>>>>>>> not need to have a WordPress account to sign up)
>>>>>>>>>> The cost for the class is *$20 per person*. There is a button to >>>>>>>>>> pay for the class on the events page in the links below.
> Ah Teresa Whites one of my fellow alumni from MCA's. She owes me a class I
> got on groupon. Was thinking of redeeming it next year, but if your getting
> a class John, I be more than willing to go as the comic relief roll, or
> would I embarase you too much. =D
> BTW if any one knows glass it's her!
> -Dru
> On Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:43:52 AM UTC-5, John Wood wrote:
>> I couldn't agree more. Could be a marketing strategy like you say.
>> According to Teresa White, a glass artist I spoke with last week. The
>> kiln would need to go to 1400F and anneal between 900-1000F for about a
>> half hour per quarter inch thickness of glass. So I don't see why this kiln
>> wouldn't work.
>> My biggest concern would be to cause damage to the kiln. If we can avoid
>> that, I'd love to make it work.
>> BTW, Teresa White offers classes in glass work at her studio on Hollywood
>> if anyone's interested. Her classes range from $50 to $100 and there's a
>> Living Social coupon available for her classes too. I'm seriously
>> considering going.
>> John
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Dan Hess <dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> From everything I can find on their site, I don't really see anything
>>> that details that kiln can't be used for glass. Looking into it further,
>>> glass kilns typically have elements in the lid, or in the case of even heat
>>> kilns they pretty much turn em upside down. The placement of the element
>>> is only important when it comes to finer control over larger pieces above
>>> most typical fused glass jewelry pieces. Most glass fusing is done in the
>>> 1300-1600 F range, while this kiln will go up to just a little over 2200 F.
>>> If they stated anywhere that it isn't to be used for glass it likely
>>> because it's a ceramics kiln and not one of their glass kilns. The only
>>> real thing is, unless you're needing super fine control over some rather
>>> large pieces of glass, then a ceramics kiln will work just fine for glass.
>>> I suspect they want you to buy one of their fancy glass kilns instead.
>>> Now this is all only when it comes to reading about it, so in practice
>>> may be different, or someone with a little more know might be able to speak
>>> to it better.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel H.
>>> Google Voice: (901) 214-5326
>>> - Copying one is plagiarism, copying many is research.
>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:34 AM, John Wood <jwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm glad you mentioned that Mary.
>>>> I checked on the manufacturer's website, Evenheat, they say that kiln
>>>> can't be used for glass. There's no explanation as to why.
>>>> Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
>>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Mary Hess <mfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I will not have my schedule for a little bit, I hope there will still
>>>>> be spots open when I get my work schedule. If not, I guess I'll catch the
>>>>> next one.
>>>>> Oh, I have been looking up fused glass technique. The type of glass
>>>>> used is usualy the same, and we can use the kiln to fuse. I have a list of
>>>>> things on Amazon that I am going to buy to work on fused glass. When I get
>>>>> the time and the supplies, I will let you know and we can see if we can
>>>>> figure out fusing.
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>> rache...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I have plenty, no worries
>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 1:03 PM, "Kara Ferguson" <kara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the resources Rachel! I have an allergy to cobalt (which
>>>>>>> is in blue glass, and a whole bunch of other weird stuff) so I was trying
>>>>>>> to decided if I need to get some gloves or something as a precaution.
>>>>>>> When I ordered my glass cutter amazon recommended also buying glass
>>>>>>> oil, but I didn't. Is that something I should have gotten with it?
>>>>>>> I would love to learn how to do fused glass! I have a
>>>>>>> few jewelry prices that are done that way.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>>>> rache...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kara,
>>>>>>>> I'm planning on having an assortment of Colors and textures for the
>>>>>>>> classes. But if you have a certain color or particular Color scheme in
>>>>>>>> mind, by all means, feel free to bring your own glass to work with. Now,
>>>>>>>> with that being said, please make sure the class is an "art" grade. I
>>>>>>>> suggest hobby lobby locally. Online, Delphiglass.com is your best bet.
>>>>>>>> Also, I believe Mary and Dan have found a source through amazon they are
>>>>>>>> buying glass for fusion. The fusion glass can be used for stained glass,
>>>>>>>> but only for small projects. The fusing glass is just slightly weaker than
>>>>>>>> normal "stained glass" glass. Spectrum is a great brand to start out with.
>>>>>>>> Look for describers such as opals, cathedral, transparents, baroque,
>>>>>>>> silvercoat, or waterglass just to name a few. Stay away from "rough rolled"
>>>>>>>> glass as a beginner, as it takes a more expert cutter to work with.
>>>>>>>> If there are any other questions I can answer before hand, please
>>>>>>>> feel free to contact me. I'm really looking forward to working with
>>>>>>>> everyone again! Irs been way too long since we had done classes.
>>>>>>>> I would also like to add, for everyone not able to schedule the
>>>>>>>> 11th, I am definitely open to any suggestions of when we schedule another
>>>>>>>> class for this panel. We will be working in the leaded came technique which
>>>>>>>> is used for larger scale panels and projects. Also, there is the copper
>>>>>>>> foil technique used for lamp shades and small Multi dimensional
>>>>>>>> objects..... boxes,ornaments, .... I plan on doing that after thanksgiving.
>>>>>>>> I look forward to everyones comments
>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 10:13 AM, "Kara Ferguson" <kara...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Rachel,
>>>>>>>>> Are we going to be using any blue glass for the class?
>>>>>>>>> -k
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:37 AM, rachel donndelinger <
>>>>>>>>> rache...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys!!!
>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed all the emails, sorry I haven't piped in earlier!
>>>>>>>>>> The classes for the 11th is only a start. As indicated in this
>>>>>>>>>> thread, there is an overwhelming want for this class. I plan on teaching
>>>>>>>>>> this class and more. There are many wonderful projects and techniques to be
>>>>>>>>>> learned through stained glass. We will just be scratching the surface. I
>>>>>>>>>> am looking forward to this class and many more.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, thank you Kara, for answering the questions I didn't see
>>>>>>>>>> earlier :)
>>>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2012 10:05 AM, "jfer...@midsouthmakers.org" <
>>>>>>>>>> jfer...@midsouthmakers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Makers,
>>>>>>>>>>> We’ll be creating a ~5×7 stained glass project. Participants are
>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc) everything else will be provided.
>>>>>>>>>>> We will be doing *two 4 Person classes* to learn how to create
>>>>>>>>>>> stained glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign
>>>>>>>>>>> ups we’ll plan another day to do this event again.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do
>>>>>>>>>>> not need to have a WordPress account to sign up)
>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for the class is *$20 per person*. There is a button
>>>>>>>>>>> to pay for the class on the events page in the links below.
> to bring their own Glass cutter ($5 – ebay, amazon, Hobby Lobby, etc)
> everything else will be provided.
> We will be doing two 4 Person classes to learn how to create stained
> glass. Sign ups are first come, first serve. If we exceed the sign ups
> we’ll plan another day to do this event again.
> Please sign up for the classes via the following links (You do not need to
> have a WordPress account to sign up)
Just a reminder, I have a booking pending/payment sent. Let me know if there is any issues with paypal as they have been less than satisfactory lately.
> Just a reminder, I have a booking pending/payment sent. Let me know if
> there is any issues with paypal as they have been less than satisfactory
> lately.
> Thanks,
> -Dru
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:39:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Ferguson wrote:
>> We still have all 4 slots open for the 11am class on November 11th.
For anyone interested in a last minute slot, we have 1 opening for the
stained glass class at 3pm tomorrow, Sunday 11/11. The 11:00am class is
booked up!
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Joe Ferguson <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have 1 spot open for the 11:00 AM class. Hope everyone is looking
> forward to Sunday!
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:48 AM, MemphisArtGuy <memphisart...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Just a reminder, I have a booking pending/payment sent. Let me know if
>> there is any issues with paypal as they have been less than satisfactory
>> lately.
>> Thanks,
>> -Dru
>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:39:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Ferguson wrote:
>>> We still have all 4 slots open for the 11am class on November 11th.
We're going to have an awesome time tomorrow... looking forward to working
with everyone :)
On Nov 10, 2012 5:59 PM, "Joe Ferguson" <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For anyone interested in a last minute slot, we have 1 opening for the
> stained glass class at 3pm tomorrow, Sunday 11/11. The 11:00am class is
> booked up!
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Joe Ferguson <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have 1 spot open for the 11:00 AM class. Hope everyone is looking
>> forward to Sunday!
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:48 AM, MemphisArtGuy <memphisart...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Just a reminder, I have a booking pending/payment sent. Let me know if
>>> there is any issues with paypal as they have been less than satisfactory
>>> lately.
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Dru
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:39:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Ferguson wrote:
>>>> We still have all 4 slots open for the 11am class on November 11th.
