VBA Word Count

[GB]

Hi, couple of minor problems. I wanted to help my wife with a macro that
would count all the words in the document and also the number of words in
bold. I can't even get to first base on this because the VBA word count
seems to be all screwy.

For example: 'MsgBox ActiveDocument.Range.Words.Count' returns an answer of
10 for a document that has 5 words in it. The word count on the menu
Tools...word count gives the correct answer. Is there a simple way to access
that, and why does words.count not just ummm count the words?

BTW this is Word 2003, and it's up to date with all the patches.

[Jay Freedman]

The Words collection contains a separate item for each punctuation mark,
each paragraph mark, and each inline graphic in the document. That makes it
unsuitable for your purpose. The number in the Word Count dialog, which
matches the usual English definition of "words", is instead available from
the ComputeStatistics method.

Here's sample code that you can modify to your taste:

Sub demo()
Dim WordCount As Long
Dim myRange As Range

Set myRange = ActiveDocument.Range

WordCount = myRange.ComputeStatistics(wdStatisticWords)
MsgBox WordCount & " words"

' now count bold words
WordCount = 0
With myRange.Find
.ClearFormatting
.Format = True
.Text = ""
.Font.Bold = True
.Forward = True
.Wrap = wdFindStop
While .Execute
WordCount = WordCount + 1
myRange.Collapse wdCollapseEnd
Wend
End With
MsgBox WordCount & " bold words"
End Sub

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
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all may benefit.

[Helmut Weber]

Hi GB,

select all of the doc.

MsgBox Selection.Words.Count
MsgBox Selection.Range.ComputeStatistics(wdStatisticWords)

The second comes closer to what you want,
though it is regrettable that Word uses different
methods for word count.

>... macro that would count the number of words in bold.

>For example: 'MsgBox ActiveDocument.Range.Words.Count' returns an answer of
>10 for a document that has 5 words in it. The word count on the menu
>Tools...word count gives the correct answer. Is there a simple way to access
>that, and why does words.count not just ummm count the words?

What a word constitutes,
is a fuzzy concept of fuzzy naturally language.
You would need a fuzzy computer, a contradiction in itself,
to count words, and it would return a fuzzy answer...

Try this, which is refinable at nauseam,
but will never be perfect.

Sub Test14()
Dim lBld As Long
Dim rDcm As Range
Dim oWrd As Range
Set rDcm = ActiveDocument.Range
For Each oWrd In rDcm.Words
If oWrd.Font.Bold And Len(oWrd) > 1 Then
lBld = lBld + 1
End If
Next
MsgBox lBld
End Sub

Greetings from Bavaria, German
Helmut Weber MVP WordBVA
(MA linguistics)

[GB]

"Jay Freedman" <jay.fr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:uqDd0j9c...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> why does words.count not just count the words?

>
> The Words collection contains a separate item for each punctuation mark,
> each paragraph mark, and each inline graphic in the document. That makes
> it unsuitable for your purpose. The number in the Word Count dialog, which
> matches the usual English definition of "words", is instead available from
> the ComputeStatistics method.

Thanks very much, Jay. Your code (snipped) does the job nicely. That raises
another question, namely where is there a fairly simple beginner's guide to
the Word object model? The trouble with the help file is that it explains
how to use a particular property or method, but it's not so good at helping
to find the right one in the first place.

[GB]

"Jay Freedman" <jay.fr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:uqDd0j9c...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> With myRange.Find

> .Forward = True
> .Wrap = wdFindStop
> While .Execute
> WordCount = WordCount + 1
> myRange.Collapse wdCollapseEnd
> Wend
> End With

I was curious why the line 'myRange.Collapse wdCollapseEnd' needs to be
there? I'm quite surprised that it works, as I would expect it to collapse
the range you are finding in whilst still finding bold words in it. It seems
to work quite nicely with or without that line in it.

[Jay Freedman]

The behavior of the Find object is something that defies understanding.

When the .Execute method succeeds (and returns True), the .Start and .End
values of the Range object are changed to cover the found text. You can
watch this happening in the Locals window as you single-step (F8) in the
code. In some hidden bit of memory, though, VBA remembers the original range
and continues to search through it. The exception to this occurs when the
body of the While loop modifies the content of the Range object by adding or
removing text, or by changing the .Start or .End value. That's when the
.Collapse is required; if it's omitted, the next .Execute will indeed search
within the _current_ location of the Range object.

Rather than forget the .Collapse when it is needed, and because it does no
harm if it isn't needed, I have a standard "template" for a Find loop that
includes it. Yes, you can take it out.

[Jay Freedman]

I can't say I've kept up with what's in print on this subject. After all this
time, I just carry around large chunks of the object model in my head :-) and
use the help and the Object Browser (F2 in the VBA editor) to refresh my memory
when necessary.

There's a fairly good introduction to the concepts at
<http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa272082(office.11).aspx>.

If you ask the help for the topic "Word Object Model (Table)" you'll get a
diagram of the top levels. Each box in the table is hyperlinked to the topic
about that object, and the topic has links at the top for Properties, Methods,
and (where applicable) Events.

If you're looking for a property or method and you don't know what it's called,
or what object it belongs to, use the Object Browser. Type into the search box
any term or fragment that you think might be related to what you want, and click
the Search (binoculars) button. You'll get a list of everything in the object
model whose names contain that fragment.

[Jay Prakash]

when I try to write the name of the active word file name to another opened word file, it writes onle the opened file with below said way. Can you help to resolve it?

Code:
ActiveDocument.Name

Thanks
JP

> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:35 AM GB wrote:

> Hi, couple of minor problems. I wanted to help my wife with a macro that

> would count all the words in the document and also the number of words in

> bold. I can't even get to first base on this because the VBA word count
> seems to be all screwy.
>

> For example: 'MsgBox ActiveDocument.Range.Words.Count' returns an answer of
> 10 for a document that has 5 words in it. The word count on the menu
> Tools...word count gives the correct answer. Is there a simple way to access

> that, and why does words.count not just ummm count the words?
>
> BTW this is Word 2003, and it's up to date with all the patches.

>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:55 AM Jay Freedman wrote:

>> GB wrote:
>>
>> The Words collection contains a separate item for each punctuation mark,
>> each paragraph mark, and each inline graphic in the document. That makes it
>> unsuitable for your purpose. The number in the Word Count dialog, which
>> matches the usual English definition of "words", is instead available from
>> the ComputeStatistics method.
>>

>> Here's sample code that you can modify to your taste:
>>
>> Sub demo()
>> Dim WordCount As Long
>> Dim myRange As Range
>>
>> Set myRange = ActiveDocument.Range
>>
>> WordCount = myRange.ComputeStatistics(wdStatisticWords)
>> MsgBox WordCount & " words"
>>
>> ' now count bold words
>> WordCount = 0
>> With myRange.Find
>> .ClearFormatting
>> .Format = True
>> .Text = ""
>> .Font.Bold = True

>> .Forward = True
>> .Wrap = wdFindStop
>> While .Execute
>> WordCount = WordCount + 1
>> myRange.Collapse wdCollapseEnd
>> Wend
>> End With

>> MsgBox WordCount & " bold words"
>> End Sub
>>
>>

>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jay Freedman
>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
>> all may benefit.

>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:26 AM Helmut Weber wrote:

>>> Hi GB,
>>>
>>> select all of the doc.
>>>
>>> MsgBox Selection.Words.Count
>>> MsgBox Selection.Range.ComputeStatistics(wdStatisticWords)
>>>
>>> The second comes closer to what you want,
>>> though it is regrettable that Word uses different
>>> methods for word count.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>> What a word constitutes,
>>> is a fuzzy concept of fuzzy naturally language.
>>> You would need a fuzzy computer, a contradiction in itself,
>>> to count words, and it would return a fuzzy answer...
>>>
>>> Try this, which is refinable at nauseam,
>>> but will never be perfect.
>>>
>>> Sub Test14()
>>> Dim lBld As Long
>>> Dim rDcm As Range
>>> Dim oWrd As Range
>>> Set rDcm = ActiveDocument.Range
>>> For Each oWrd In rDcm.Words
>>> If oWrd.Font.Bold And Len(oWrd) > 1 Then
>>> lBld = lBld + 1
>>> End If
>>> Next
>>> MsgBox lBld
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> Greetings from Bavaria, German
>>> Helmut Weber MVP WordBVA
>>> (MA linguistics)

>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:42 PM GB wrote:

>>>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.fr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uqDd0j9c...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>>> Thanks very much, Jay. Your code (snipped) does the job nicely. That raises
>>>> another question, namely where is there a fairly simple beginner's guide to
>>>> the Word object model? The trouble with the help file is that it explains
>>>> how to use a particular property or method, but it's not so good at helping
>>>> to find the right one in the first place.

>>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:55 PM GB wrote:

>>>>> "Jay Freedman" <jay.fr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uqDd0j9c...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>

>>>>> I was curious why the line 'myRange.Collapse wdCollapseEnd' needs to be
>>>>> there? I'm quite surprised that it works, as I would expect it to collapse
>>>>> the range you are finding in whilst still finding bold words in it. It seems
>>>>> to work quite nicely with or without that line in it.

>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:54 PM Jay Freedman wrote:

>>>>>> GB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The behavior of the Find object is something that defies understanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the .Execute method succeeds (and returns True), the .Start and .End
>>>>>> values of the Range object are changed to cover the found text. You can
>>>>>> watch this happening in the Locals window as you single-step (F8) in the
>>>>>> code. In some hidden bit of memory, though, VBA remembers the original range
>>>>>> and continues to search through it. The exception to this occurs when the
>>>>>> body of the While loop modifies the content of the Range object by adding or
>>>>>> removing text, or by changing the .Start or .End value. That's when the
>>>>>> .Collapse is required; if it's omitted, the next .Execute will indeed search
>>>>>> within the _current_ location of the Range object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rather than forget the .Collapse when it is needed, and because it does no
>>>>>> harm if it isn't needed, I have a standard "template" for a Find loop that
>>>>>> includes it. Yes, you can take it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Jay Freedman
>>>>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
>>>>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
>>>>>> all may benefit.

>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jay Freedman
>>>>>>> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
>>>>>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.

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[Jay Freedman]

When you have more than one document open at the same time, the variable "ActiveDocument" refers to the document that has the focus (the active cursor) at the instant that line of the macro is
executed. If the macro changes the focus (for example, by opening another document or by using the Activate method), the ActiveDocument changes too. So "ActiveDocument" could refer to different
documents at different times during the execution of the single macro.

The way to work around this is to declare and initialize one or more variables of type Document, and use those variables instead of ActiveDocument. For example:

Sub Demo()
Dim FirstDoc As Document
Dim SecondDoc As Document

Set FirstDoc = ActiveDocument
' so FirstDoc is the document that had the focus when the macro started

Set SecondDoc = Documents.Add ' open a new blank document, which becomes ActiveDocument

MsgBox "When macro started, " & FirstDoc.Name & " was active"
MsgBox "Now " & SecondDoc.Name & " is active"
End Sub

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.