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Mark Limburg

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Jun 11, 2003, 11:16:52 PM6/11/03
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Howdy,

I am wondering if/how it is possible to provide a consistent header and
footer for a portrait document (all of it MUST be in portrait), and have
a section within this document rotated as if in landscape. Now, I know
I can rotate *some* items in Word, but these don't include standard Word
tables or embedded Excel spreadsheets/graphs.

Any creative ideas? Maybe a macro generated header and footer which can
be placed in a rotatable object .... I'm pulling my hair out here!

Mark

Graham Mayor

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Jun 12, 2003, 3:36:37 AM6/12/03
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See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Formatting/LandscapeSection.htm

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Mark Limburg

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Jun 12, 2003, 10:44:35 PM6/12/03
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Graham Mayor wrote:

> See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Formatting/LandscapeSection.htm
>

Seriously, thank you so much. I ended up kicking Word for about three
hours and came up with the solution in that page .. well, 90% of it, I
used a Textbox, but after reading that webpage, I'm changing it to
framed tables now.

The site is a marvel, and I can't thank you enough for the info.

Warmest Regards,

M

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Graham Mayor

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Jun 13, 2003, 2:42:11 AM6/13/03
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You are welcome :-)

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Mark Limburg

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Jun 17, 2003, 10:11:21 PM6/17/03
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Graham Mayor wrote:

Are there sites you would recommend to help me build a macro to
automagically perform the create the sections, unlink the header/footer,
create the two needed rotated frames placed in the landscaped
header/footer, copy and paste the standard header and footer into these
frames, etc etc etc ...

I'm happy to slog away at it, but a head start would be useful.

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jun 17, 2003, 11:28:25 PM6/17/03
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You could record a macro to do some of this, but as for the frames
themselves, I'd suggest saving them as AutoText entries.

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Graham Mayor

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Jun 18, 2003, 4:43:13 AM6/18/03
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You don't need a macro (OK just a little one) to do this. Use the code
posted to select the current page ie the one with the landscape format (make
sure there is a section break either side of it ie it is not the last page),
text boxes or whatever, then use ALT+F3 and save as an autotext entry. You
can insert the next landscape page by inserting the autotext.

Sub SelectPage()
ActiveDocument.Bookmarks("\page").Range.Select
End Sub


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Margaret Aldis

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Jun 18, 2003, 10:06:59 AM6/18/03
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Hi Graham

It's still worth having a macro for the insertion. Before inserting the
AutoText entry for the landscape section break you must insert the
'protective' section break at the end of the previous Portrait section, and
(most long-winded and well worth a macro) unlink the headers and footers in
the following section.

I've written this up in an article I did for the UK Institute of Scientific
and Technical Communicators - it's available as PDF at

http://www.syntagma.demon.co.uk/Articles/WordWorkaround2.pdf

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Graham Mayor

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Jun 18, 2003, 10:33:44 AM6/18/03
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You are right of course!

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Margaret Aldis wrote:
> Hi Graham
>
> It's still worth having a macro for the insertion. Before inserting
> the AutoText entry for the landscape section break you must insert the
> 'protective' section break at the end of the previous Portrait
> section, and (most long-winded and well worth a macro) unlink the
> headers and footers in the following section.
>
> I've written this up in an article I did for the UK Institute of
> Scientific and Technical Communicators - it's available as PDF at
>
> http://www.syntagma.demon.co.uk/Articles/WordWorkaround2.pdf
>
>

Bob S

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Jun 26, 2003, 4:55:04 PM6/26/03
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:06:59 +0100, "Margaret Aldis"
<margare...@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi Graham
>
>It's still worth having a macro for the insertion. Before inserting the
>AutoText entry for the landscape section break you must insert the
>'protective' section break at the end of the previous Portrait section, and
>(most long-winded and well worth a macro) unlink the headers and footers in
>the following section.
>
>I've written this up in an article I did for the UK Institute of Scientific
>and Technical Communicators - it's available as PDF at
>
>http://www.syntagma.demon.co.uk/Articles/WordWorkaround2.pdf

Nice article!

Why not save both section breaks in the AutoText entry? I.e. save a
complete landscape chunk with both breaks.

I suppose there is the risk that if you have changed the header or
footer in the actual document so that it is not the same as the
template, inserting a preset section break from the template would be
dangerous...

Is there another reason?

Bob S

Margaret Aldis

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Jun 30, 2003, 5:35:31 AM6/30/03
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"Bob S" <notarea...@110.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >http://www.syntagma.demon.co.uk/Articles/WordWorkaround2.pdf
>
> Nice article!

Thanks :-)

> Why not save both section breaks in the AutoText entry? I.e. save a
> complete landscape chunk with both breaks.
>
> I suppose there is the risk that if you have changed the header or
> footer in the actual document so that it is not the same as the
> template, inserting a preset section break from the template would be
> dangerous...
>
> Is there another reason?
>

You could save both section breaks in the AutoText as you say if the
portrait format is the same throughout the document. However, in a lot of
tech docs you have different headers/footers in main body and appendices (a
common place for landscape page inserts) and also the first section of the
main body may be set to start page numbering at 1 (after the front matter).
All in all, as a generic description of the method, it seemed safer and more
educative of the logic to think of inserting a section break to capture and
preserve the current format, then breaking the link of the following
section, and finally inserting the landscape page (or any of a choice of
preprepared page formats) with its defining section break from AutoText.
Since the de-linking has to be done anyway, there's no real advantage in the
packaged AutoText.

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