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Markus Schöpflin

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Feb 2, 2010, 10:28:21 AM2/2/10
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Am 02.02.2010 15:26, schrieb MuppetBaby:

Assuming that you headings are called H1, H2, H3, define P1, P2, and P3
deriving from H1, H2, and H3 respectively, and overriding any formatting
options you need. Then the following should give you what you want:

H1 1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
P2 1.1 Paragraph
P2 1.2 Paragraph
H2 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)
P3 1.3.1 Paragraph
P3 1.3.2 Paragraph
H3 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
P4 1.3.3.1 Paragraph
P4 1.3.3.2 Paragraph
H1 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
H2 2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)
P3 2.1.1 Paragraph
H3 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
P4 2.1.2.1 Paragraph

HTH, Markus

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

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Feb 2, 2010, 8:22:58 PM2/2/10
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Set up you Heading numbering by following the instructions in the article on
the following page of fellow MVP Shauna Kelly's website

http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html

Then, for the 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 paragraphs, define a new style that is based
on the Heading 3 style and modify the formatting in that style to suit (that
is not bold). The new style will automatically inherit the numbering from
Heading 3 and while I find it a bit illogical to mix both style under the
one Heading 2 paragraph, they will quite happily co-exist.

--
Hope this helps,

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Please reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on
a paid professional basis.

"MuppetBaby" <Muppe...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, hope you can help as I've wandered around the net for almost a day
> now trying to resolve this for myself!
>
> I am trying to construct a multilevel list that accommodates multiple
> formatting options for the same list level e.g.


>
> 1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)

> 1.1 Paragraph
> 1.2 Paragraph
> 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)
> 1.3.1 Paragraph
> 1.3.2 Paragraph


> 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)

> 1.3.3.1 Paragraph
> 1.3.3.2 Paragraph


> 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)

> 2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)
> 2.1.1 Paragraph


> 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)

> 2.1.2.1 Paragraph
>
> Sometimes the paragraph will be first, sometimes the sub / sub sub heading
> will be first. I've seen lots of advice relating to defining a new
> multilevel list and have tried a few variants but somehow I can't get the
> numbering to follow on. I end up with, for example:


>
> 1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)

> 1.1 Paragraph
> 1.2 Paragraph
> 1.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)

MuppetBaby

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Feb 3, 2010, 5:26:01 AM2/3/10
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Hi Markus,

thanks for the reply. I'm quite happy doing this manually but I'm trying to
set up either a template document or a quick style set for my team to use.
All the guidance I've found for 2007 so far suggests that this is only
possible using multilevel lists.

Regards

Jude

"Markus Schöpflin" wrote:

> .
>

MuppetBaby

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Feb 3, 2010, 5:29:01 AM2/3/10
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Hi Doug,

thanks for the reply. I have this working in an individual document, but as
soon as I try to turn it into a template or quick style the '1.2' and '1.2.1'
paragraphs lose their formatting.

Stefan Blom

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Feb 3, 2010, 2:47:56 PM2/3/10
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How are you creating the template, exactly? Assuming that you have set up
the styles/numbering correctly, it should be as uncomplicated as saving the
file as a Word template.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

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MuppetBaby

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Hi Stefan,

thanks for the reply.

I created the template using a blank word doc, modifying sytles Heading 1,2
& 3 in relation to font style, size, colour, bold, caps or not etc; creating
body 1, 2 & 3 and bullet 1, 2 & 3 sytles, altering the font style, size
(these are not bold).

The paragraph formats for all were set to 0 left alignment special none.

Then using the multilevel list I attempted to get all nine levels in and
working with the correct alignment, spacing and numbering. What I struggled
to work out is how to get two different styles which carry the same numbering
level into the multlevel so that they can both be used in either order e.g.

1 HEADING 1
1.1 Non Bold (Body1)
1.2 Bold (Heading 2)
1.2.1 Non Bold (Body 2)
1.2.2 Bold (Heading 3)
1.2.2.1 Non Bold (Body 3)

or

1 HEADING 1
1.1 Bold (Heading 2)
1.2 Non Bold (Body1)
1.2.1 Bold (Heading 3)
1.2.2 Non Bold (Body 2)
1.2.2.1 Non Bold (Body 3)

I managed to get Heading 1, 2 & 3, Body 3 and Bullet 1, 2 & 3 into the
multilist. Then following Doug's advice based Body 1 & 2 on Heading 2 & 3.

I then saved it as a word template. The levels all work fine in the open
template, but as soon as I create a new document from the template, or use
the template as a new quick style Body 1 & 2 lose their formatting.

Hope this makes sense!

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> .
>

Stefan Blom

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I don't know why you are losing the numbering; usually the described method
should work.

Note, however, that if you try to modify the *numbering* of a "child" style,
the numbering will disappear from the "parent" (based-on) style, but that
isn't relevant for your situation.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

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MuppetBaby wrote:

Formatting and multilevel lists
02-Feb-10

Hi all, hope you can help as I have wandered around the net for almost a day


now trying to resolve this for myself!

I am trying to construct a multilevel list that accommodates multiple
formatting options for the same list level e.g.

1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
1.1 Paragraph
1.2 Paragraph
1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)
1.3.1 Paragraph
1.3.2 Paragraph
1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
1.3.3.1 Paragraph
1.3.3.2 Paragraph
2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)
2.1.1 Paragraph
2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
2.1.2.1 Paragraph

Sometimes the paragraph will be first, sometimes the sub / sub sub heading

will be first. I have seen lots of advice relating to defining a new
multilevel list and have tried a few variants but somehow I cannot get the


numbering to follow on. I end up with, for example:

1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
1.1 Paragraph
1.2 Paragraph
1.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:26 AM
MuppetBaby wrote:

Formatting and multilevel lists
Hi all, hope you can help as I have wandered around the net for almost a day


now trying to resolve this for myself!

I am trying to construct a multilevel list that accommodates multiple
formatting options for the same list level e.g.

1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
1.1 Paragraph
1.2 Paragraph
1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)
1.3.1 Paragraph
1.3.2 Paragraph
1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
1.3.3.1 Paragraph
1.3.3.2 Paragraph
2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)
2.1.1 Paragraph
2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
2.1.2.1 Paragraph

Sometimes the paragraph will be first, sometimes the sub / sub sub heading

will be first. I have seen lots of advice relating to defining a new
multilevel list and have tried a few variants but somehow I cannot get the


numbering to follow on. I end up with, for example:

1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
1.1 Paragraph
1.2 Paragraph
1.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)

On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:28 AM
Markus Sch?pflin wrote:

Am 02.02.


Am 02.02.2010 15:26, schrieb MuppetBaby:

Assuming that you headings are called H1, H2, H3, define P1, P2, and P3
deriving from H1, H2, and H3 respectively, and overriding any formatting
options you need. Then the following should give you what you want:

H1 1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
P2 1.1 Paragraph
P2 1.2 Paragraph
H2 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)
P3 1.3.1 Paragraph
P3 1.3.2 Paragraph
H3 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
P4 1.3.3.1 Paragraph
P4 1.3.3.2 Paragraph
H1 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)
H2 2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)
P3 2.1.1 Paragraph
H3 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)
P4 2.1.2.1 Paragraph

HTH, Markus

On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:22 PM


Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote:

Set up you Heading numbering by following the instructions in the article
Set up you Heading numbering by following the instructions in the article on
the following page of fellow MVP Shauna Kelly's website

http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html

Then, for the 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 paragraphs, define a new style that is based
on the Heading 3 style and modify the formatting in that style to suit (that
is not bold). The new style will automatically inherit the numbering from
Heading 3 and while I find it a bit illogical to mix both style under the
one Heading 2 paragraph, they will quite happily co-exist.

--
Hope this helps,

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Please reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on
a paid professional basis.

On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:26 AM
MuppetBaby wrote:

Hi Markus,thanks for the reply.
Hi Markus,

thanks for the reply. I am quite happy doing this manually but I am trying to


set up either a template document or a quick style set for my team to use.

All the guidance I have found for 2007 so far suggests that this is only
possible using multilevel lists.

Regards

Jude

"Markus Sch??pflin" wrote:

On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:29 AM
MuppetBaby wrote:

Hi Doug,thanks for the reply.
Hi Doug,

thanks for the reply. I have this working in an individual document, but as
soon as I try to turn it into a template or quick style the '1.2' and '1.2.1'
paragraphs lose their formatting.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:47 PM
Stefan Blom wrote:

How are you creating the template, exactly?
How are you creating the template, exactly? Assuming that you have set up
the styles/numbering correctly, it should be as uncomplicated as saving the
file as a Word template.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

On Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:24 AM
MuppetBaby wrote:

Hi Stefan,thanks for the reply.
Hi Stefan,

thanks for the reply.

or

Hope this makes sense!

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

On Friday, February 05, 2010 3:10 PM
Stefan Blom wrote:

I do not know why you are losing the numbering; usually the described
I do not know why you are losing the numbering; usually the described method
should work.

Note, however, that if you try to modify the *numbering* of a "child" style,
the numbering will disappear from the "parent" (based-on) style, but that

is not relevant for your situation.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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Stefan Blom

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As suggested by Doug earlier in the thread, you'll have to make use of the based
on feature; that's the only way a style can "inherit" the numbering from a
numbered style.

Alternatively, use *character styles* to format the text as desired.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

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> I suggest to use a .net word component, I use it long time, quit good. http://www.e-iceblue.com/Introduce/word-for-net-introduce.htmlMuppetBaby wrote:Formatting and multilevel lists02-Feb-10 Hi all, hope you can help as I have wandered around the net for almost a day now trying to resolve this for myself!I am trying to construct a multilevel list that accommodates multiple formatting options for the same list level e.g.1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)1.1 Paragraph1.2 Paragraph 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)1.3.1 Paragraph1.3.2 Paragraph 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)1.3.3.1 Paragraph1.3.3.2 Paragraph 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)2.1.1 Paragraph 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)2.1.2.1 ParagraphSometimes the paragraph will be first, sometimes the sub / sub sub heading will be first. I have seen lots of advice relating to defining a new multilevel list and have tried a few variants but somehow I cannot get the numbering to follow on. I end up with, for example:1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)1.1 Paragraph1.2 Paragraph 1.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)Previous Posts In This Thread:On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:26 AMMuppetBaby wrote:Formatting and multilevel lists Hi all, hope you can help as I have wandered around the net for almost a day now trying to resolve this for myself!I am trying to construct a multilevel list that accommodates multiple formatting options for the same list level e.g.1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)1.1 Paragraph1.2 Paragraph 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)1.3.1 Paragraph1.3.2 Paragraph 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)1.3.3.1 Paragraph1.3.3.2 Paragraph 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)2.1.1 Paragraph 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)2.1.2.1 ParagraphSometimes the paragraph will be first, sometimes the sub / sub sub heading will be first. I have seen lots of advice relating to defining a new multilevel list and have tried a few variants but somehow I cannot get the numbering to follow on. I end up with, for example:1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)1.1 Paragraph1.2 Paragraph 1.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:28 AM Markus Sch?pflin wrote:Am 02.02. Am 02.02.2010 15:26, schrieb MuppetBaby:Assuming that you headings are called H1, H2, H3, define P1, P2, and P3 deriving from H1, H2, and H3 respectively, and overriding any formatting options you need. Then the following should give you what you want:H1 1 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS)P2 1.1 ParagraphP2 1.2 Paragraph H2 1.3 Sub Heading (BOLD)P3 1.3.1 ParagraphP3 1.3.2 Paragraph H3 1.3.3 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)P4 1.3.3.1 Paragraph P4 1.3.3.2 ParagraphH1 2 Heading (BOLD AND CAPS) H2 2.1 Sub Heading (BOLD)P3 2.1.1 Paragraph H3 2.1.2 Sub Sub Heading (BOLD)P4 2.1.2.1 ParagraphHTH, Markus On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:22 PMDoug Robbins - Word MVP wrote: Set up you Heading numbering by following the instructions in the article Set up you Heading numbering by following the instructions in the article on the following page of fellow MVP Shauna Kelly's websitehttp://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.htmlThen, for the 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 paragraphs, define a new style that is based on the Heading 3 style and modify the formatting in that style to suit (that is not bold). The new style will automatically inherit the numbering from Heading 3 and while I find it a bit illogical to mix both style under the one Heading 2 paragraph, they will quite happily co-exist.-- Hope this helps,Doug Robbins - Word MVPPlease reply only to the newsgroups unless you wish to obtain my services on a paid professional basis.On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:26 AM MuppetBaby wrote:Hi Markus,thanks for the reply.Hi Markus,thanks for the reply. I am quite happy doing this manually but I am trying to set up either a template document or a quick style set for my team to use. All the guidance I have found for 2007 so far suggests that this is only possible using multilevel lists.RegardsJude"Markus Sch??pflin" wrote:On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:29 AM MuppetBaby wrote:Hi Doug,thanks for the reply.Hi Doug,thanks for the reply. I have this working in an individual document, but as soon as I try to turn it into a template or quick style the '1.2' and '1.2.1' paragraphs lose their formatting."Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:47 PMStefan Blom wrote:How are you creating the template, exactly? How are you creating the template, exactly? Assuming that you have set up the styles/numbering correctly, it should be as uncomplicated as saving the file as a Word template.--Stefan BlomMicrosoft Word MVPOn Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:24 AMMuppetBaby wrote:Hi Stefan,thanks for the reply.Hi Stefan,thanks for the reply. I created the template using a blank word doc, modifying sytles Heading 1,2 & 3 in relation to font style, size, colour, bold, caps or not etc; creating body 1, 2 & 3 and bullet 1, 2 & 3 sytles, altering the font style, size (these are not bold).The paragraph formats for all were set to 0 left alignment special none.Then using the multilevel list I attempted to get all nine levels in and working with the correct alignment, spacing and numbering. What I struggled to work out is how to get two different styles which carry the same numbering level into the multlevel so that they can both be used in either order e.g. 1 HEADING 11.1 Non Bold (Body1)1.2 Bold (Heading 2) 1.2.1 Non Bold (Body 2)1.2.2 Bold (Heading 3) 1.2.2.1 Non Bold (Body 3)or1 HEADING 1 1.1 Bold (Heading 2)1.2 Non Bold (Body1)1.2.1 Bold (Heading 3) 1.2.2 Non Bold (Body 2)1.2.2.1 Non Bold (Body 3)I managed to get Heading 1, 2 & 3, Body 3 and Bullet 1, 2 & 3 into the multilist. Then following Doug's advice based Body 1 & 2 on Heading 2 & 3. I then saved it as a word template. The levels all work fine in the open template, but as soon as I create a new document from the template, or use the template as a new quick style Body 1 & 2 lose their formatting.Hope this makes sense!"Stefan Blom" wrote:On Friday, February 05, 2010 3:10 PMStefan Blom wrote:I do not know why you are losing the numbering; usually the described I do not know why you are losing the numbering; usually the described method should work.Note, however, that if you try to modify the *numbering* of a "child" style, the numbering will disappear from the "parent" (based-on) style, but that is not relevant for your situation.--Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVPSubmitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice Excel Identifying which formulas are slowing down workbook recalaculation http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/917072d4-8194-4f18-8455-75b2ebe359f0/excel-identifying-which-formulas-are-slowing-down-workbook-recalaculation.aspx


Hi everyone, thanks for the advice in this thread, it has solved a very long standing problem for me - almost! Having followed the advice above I can get the paragraph numbers and the heading numbers to go in sequence, but is there any way to ensure that the paragraph numbers themselves are formatted to match the paragraph text, rather than matching the heading text as they were originally designed to do in the list building stage?

Hope you can help...

Jimmy

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Stefan Blom

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By default, the list numbers should match the formatting of the rest of the
paragraph. If necessary, you can click directly on the list number (in Word 2007
or later); all numbers at the same list level will be selected, and you can then
change the font properties as you would when ordinary text is selected.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




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