Sudden invasion of "Complex Script" fonts?!
Mark Tangard
Word 2003, Windows XP. Suddenly today the Style and Font dialogs on 2 PCs here
are littered with extra boxes and notes about "Complex Fonts." I've never seen
that before, and I gather it's related to Asian language support. I've never
touched the language settings and have never wanted to use Word's multilingual
capabilities.
How did this happen, and how the blazes do I get rid of it? I'm trying to teach
newbies the basics, and we're getting all this extra stuff in dialogs that were
familiar & straightforward just yesterday. So far, documents are still behaving
OK, but it's a royal pain to have these extra notations in dialogs I've
deliberately tried to keep simple. (On some style descriptions it causes the
rest of the format specs to be invisible.)
A spell of Googling turned up a lot of folks who *want* this feature but only a
few who want it to go away. The recurring advice for getting rid of it is to go
to Language Settings in MS Office Tools and remove support for the other
languages. But on both of these machines, only English US is enabled.
Not sure if this is related, but I also notice some custom keyboard shortcuts
have also just stopped working, even though entering them in "New Shortcut Key"
in Tools-> Customize-> Keyboard displays what is supposedly the current assignment.
Any clues???
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Mark Tangard
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters
TF
I suppose it may also be a weirdly formatted email - especially if you use
Word as the email editor.
Terry
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbar...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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: Don't know about Google, but most of the people who have posted in these
NGs
: have been trying to get rid of the buggers, and, as you have seen, it has
: proved to be devilishly difficult. I don't know whether any have succeeded
: or, if so, how, but I can suggest one way that support for Asian languages
: might become enabled (if it had, which in your case it doesn't appear to
: have). There are certain posts in these NGs that, when clicked upon,
always
: trigger a prompt to install a specific language. For example, every time I
: click on one of the posts by "opinicus," I'm prompted to install Turkish.
I
: always decline. There is a setting somewhere in the Internet Options that
: governs whether such requests are tacitly accepted, are tacitly rejected,
or
: trigger the prompt. It may have something to do with the "Enable Install
on
: Demand" setting on the Advanced tab.
:
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: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
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so
: all may benefit.
:
: "Mark Tangard" <Mark@RemoveThisToReply_Tangard.com> wrote in message
: news:eNc5Z$GPFH...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
: > This comes under the heading of "Aaggh, what have I stepped in?!"
: >
:
Suzanne S. Barnhill
have been trying to get rid of the buggers, and, as you have seen, it has
proved to be devilishly difficult. I don't know whether any have succeeded
or, if so, how, but I can suggest one way that support for Asian languages
might become enabled (if it had, which in your case it doesn't appear to
have). There are certain posts in these NGs that, when clicked upon, always
trigger a prompt to install a specific language. For example, every time I
click on one of the posts by "opinicus," I'm prompted to install Turkish. I
always decline. There is a setting somewhere in the Internet Options that
governs whether such requests are tacitly accepted, are tacitly rejected, or
trigger the prompt. It may have something to do with the "Enable Install on
Demand" setting on the Advanced tab.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
"Mark Tangard" <Mark@RemoveThisToReply_Tangard.com> wrote in message
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Stan Brown
>Don't know about Google, but most of the people who have posted in these NGs
>have been trying to get rid of the buggers, and, as you have seen, it has
>proved to be devilishly difficult. I don't know whether any have succeeded
>or, if so, how,
I succeeded, following newsgroup advice:
Control Panel
Regional and Language Options
Languages
then UNcheck "complex script" and UNcheck "East Asian languages".
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Suzanne S. Barnhill
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
"Stan Brown" <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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Shauna Kelly
I've had this problem with RTL languages and complex fonts for some time and
have failed to get rid of it. Furthermore, when I used the Save My Settings
Wizard to transfer my settings to a new machine, the RTL languages and
complex fonts got transferred as well. So now I have two machines with the
problem, and still no end in sight.
FWIW, the settings Stan mentioned are not ticked on my machine. While those
settings may contribute to the problem, un-ticking them is apparently not
always a solution :-((.
Shauna
Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbar...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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Mark Tangard
Suzanne, the newsgroup language-muncher idea is interesting, but I somehow doubt
it's the culprit here. I would assume, to bring about something as deep-dish
as, that you'd have to be using an MS newsreader, and I'm only one who reads
newsgroups on those PCs and have always done that with Netscape.
I did find the suggestion below, but am loath to try it (a registry edit) since
I don't see an original post on it or any follow-up. Anyone have an idea?
This is probably the #1 most annoying thing I've ever come across in the "stuff
Windows does without telling you" category. I might just pay the (equally
infuriating) support fee to nail the answer. Anyone interested in contributing?
TIA
Mark
Shauna Kelly
I'm not sure I'd recommend this to the faint-hearted, but I have got rid of
the Complex Script fonts as follows:
1. Closed all open applications.
2. Opened the registry.
3. Exported HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Common\LanguageResrouces as
a backup.
4. Identified the languages I wanted to keep from the list supplied at
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/lcid-all.mspx. For me, that was
1033 (which one can't avoid<*sigh*>) and 3081.
5. Wondered why many of the language keys in my registry were not listed at
that site, but decided to keep going anyway.
6. Deleted the registry keys for all other languages. That is: I retained
1033 and 3081, deleted all other keys in \LanguageResources whose name was a
number, but retained all keys whose name was a word or in letters.
7. Re-started Word.
8. Complex script fonts are gone!
By the way, Terry, my 1033 has a value of "ExplicitOff". I wonder if that
helps the usual problems of US English creeping into documents?
I have used Word all afternoon without apparent problems, but deleting lots
of registry keys isn't something I'd normally recommend, so if you want to
try it, do be careful!
Hope this helps.
Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
"TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
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Mark/Suzanne/Shauna
Apologise for the graphics, but these are the settings in my registry under
Language Resources (remember that I use English (UK) 2057, so I would say
that it is pretty safe to change any other language listed to OFF except
your own language. Note that eliminating 1033 is impossible - a huge
annoyance.
Terry
"Mark Tangard" <Mark@RemoveThisToReply_Tangard.com> wrote in message
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: Hi Shauna. They're not checked on mine either. But see below.
: >>
: >
: >
:
Mark Tangard
registry, but nothing exploded. As we're in mid-marathon at work, where
day & night mean little (and no, we're not in Las Vegas...), this was a
nice positive development. Thanks, all.
Strange, I had only *one* non-1033 language listed. Of course I've
forgotten which. Began with a 2.
Might this fix earn a spot on the MVP site for the benefit of those
equally tormented?
Kirk out. Thanks again.
Mark
TF
Explicit Off - interesting. I'll see if I can find anything about that.
Terry
"Shauna Kelly" <Shaun...@SendNoSpamToShaunaKelly.com> wrote in message
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: Mark/Suzanne/Terry
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John Davidson
From the Start Menu, select All Programs, then Microsoft Office > Microsoft
Office Tools > Microsoft Office Language Settings.
Then remove the languages you don't want support for. I had been looking at some Persian text, which must have done an automatic switch on. I deleted "Persian" and the complex scripts were gone.