I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between machines at all.
Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one machine from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 machines although there is only 4 at this time.
You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the give us more information so that we help you. For more information, go to http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between machines > at all.
> Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one machine > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 machines > although there is only 4 at this time.
Thanks Robert. What exactly would you have me do. Here is what I did from that site.
IPCONFIG on Machine A (with no LAN) shows the LAN IP, the WAN IP, Gateway, DNS, DHCP enabled, Autoconfig enabled. Except for the LAN IP and the physical address, it looks like Machine B.
Net View shows all the machines on the LAN, Currently 4.
NBTSTAT shows the local machine and the group. There is a difference here in that on machine A, it shows the local machine 3 times and the group twice. On machine B is only shows the local machine 2 times (every other entry), In the TYPE section on machine A it has <00> unique, <03> unique and <20> unique for the local machine and <00> group and <1E> group. On machine B it looks like this:
Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Local Name Table
Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
BBS <00> UNIQUE Registered
INFINITI <00> GROUP Registered
BBS <20> UNIQUE Registered
INFINITI <1E> GROUP Registered
Running NBTSTAT gives the following results. On machine A it has:
Netbios names resolved by braodcast:
shows machine C (We haven't talked about this one) 8 times.
From machine B is shows:
machine C 6 times and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
From Machine C is shows:
machine B 7 times one with <00> and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
I am not familair at all with what this is telling me, hopefully you can tell me.. :)
I see where it says on that ChicagoTech page where if it shows <20>, NetBios is being
used, but it was NOT installed by me, unless they mean it's using it for the test...
I am able to ping in both directions, 192.168.1.103 >< 192.168.1.100. from each machine.
Also tracert to 192.168.1.103 (machine A) takes 1 hop and is done in 1ms
This is so weird, Everything says it should work but it does not!!
What else would you have me check at this point?
Thanks!
..Chip..
"Robert L" <bobli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the give us > more information so that we help you. For more information, go to > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> > I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between > machines > > at all.
> > Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one machine > > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 machines > > although there is only 4 at this time.
OK. you can ping each other by using IP. But can you ping \\computername? if you can't ping \\computername, this is name resolution issue.
Also net view \\computername should some things like:
C:\>net view \\computername
Shared resources at \\computername
Share name Type Used as Comment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Administrative Tools Disk d Disk data Disk The command completed successfully.
> Thanks Robert. What exactly would you have me do. Here is what I did from > that site.
> IPCONFIG on Machine A (with no LAN) shows the LAN IP, the WAN IP, Gateway, > DNS, DHCP > enabled, Autoconfig enabled. Except for the LAN IP and the physical > address, it looks like Machine B.
> Net View shows all the machines on the LAN, Currently 4.
> NBTSTAT shows the local machine and the group. There is a difference here > in that on machine A, it shows > the local machine 3 times and the group twice. On machine B is only shows > the local machine 2 times (every other > entry), In the TYPE section on machine A it has <00> unique, <03> unique and > <20> unique for the local machine and > <00> group and <1E> group. On machine B it looks like this:
> Local Area Connection:
> Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []
> NetBIOS Local Name Table
> Name Type Status
> ---------------------------------------------
> BBS <00> UNIQUE Registered
> INFINITI <00> GROUP Registered
> BBS <20> UNIQUE Registered
> INFINITI <1E> GROUP Registered
> Running NBTSTAT gives the following results. On machine A it has:
> Netbios names resolved by braodcast:
> shows machine C (We haven't talked about this one) 8 times.
> From machine B is shows:
> machine C 6 times and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> From Machine C is shows:
> machine B 7 times one with <00> and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> I am not familair at all with what this is telling me, hopefully you can > tell me.. :)
> I see where it says on that ChicagoTech page where if it shows <20>, NetBios > is being
> used, but it was NOT installed by me, unless they mean it's using it for the > test...
> I am able to ping in both directions, 192.168.1.103 >< 192.168.1.100. from > each machine.
> Also tracert to 192.168.1.103 (machine A) takes 1 hop and is done in 1ms
> This is so weird, Everything says it should work but it does not!!
> What else would you have me check at this point?
> > You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the give > us > > more information so that we help you. For more information, go to > > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> > > I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > > > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > > > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between > > machines > > > at all.
> > > Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one > machine > > > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 > machines > > > although there is only 4 at this time.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --- > Administrative Tools Disk > d Disk > data Disk > The command completed successfully.
> > IPCONFIG on Machine A (with no LAN) shows the LAN IP, the WAN IP, Gateway, > > DNS, DHCP > > enabled, Autoconfig enabled. Except for the LAN IP and the physical > > address, it looks like Machine B.
> > Net View shows all the machines on the LAN, Currently 4.
> > NBTSTAT shows the local machine and the group. There is a difference here > > in that on machine A, it shows > > the local machine 3 times and the group twice. On machine B is only shows > > the local machine 2 times (every other > > entry), In the TYPE section on machine A it has <00> unique, <03> unique > and > > <20> unique for the local machine and > > <00> group and <1E> group. On machine B it looks like this:
> > Local Area Connection:
> > Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []
> > NetBIOS Local Name Table
> > Name Type Status
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > BBS <00> UNIQUE Registered
> > INFINITI <00> GROUP Registered
> > BBS <20> UNIQUE Registered
> > INFINITI <1E> GROUP Registered
> > Running NBTSTAT gives the following results. On machine A it has:
> > Netbios names resolved by braodcast:
> > shows machine C (We haven't talked about this one) 8 times.
> > From machine B is shows:
> > machine C 6 times and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> > From Machine C is shows:
> > machine B 7 times one with <00> and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> > I am not familair at all with what this is telling me, hopefully you can > > tell me.. :)
> > I see where it says on that ChicagoTech page where if it shows <20>, > NetBios > > is being
> > used, but it was NOT installed by me, unless they mean it's using it for > the > > test...
> > I am able to ping in both directions, 192.168.1.103 >< 192.168.1.100. > from > > each machine.
> > Also tracert to 192.168.1.103 (machine A) takes 1 hop and is done in 1ms
> > This is so weird, Everything says it should work but it does not!!
> > What else would you have me check at this point?
> > > You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the > give > > us > > > more information so that we help you. For more information, go to > > > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> > > > I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > > > > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > > > > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between > > > machines > > > > at all.
> > > > Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one > > machine > > > > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 > > machines > > > > although there is only 4 at this time.
Morning Robert. Visited the MS Knowledge base this morning and was directed to the help & support area to 'Use Tools to view your computer information and diagnosis problems". The results on both machine were positive. DNS failed, but in looking further into the info it had to do with my ISP DNS Servers (one of three) failed (to respond?).
Otherwise everything else passed. I saved the files and can post them for you if your not familiar with that output.
Outlook Express did fail one (for mail), but the 2nd time mail passed and NEWS failed.. I don't think this is affecting the LAN connectivity.
Is this any help?
..Chip..
"Robert L" <bobli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> OK. you can ping each other by using IP. But can you ping \\computername? if > you can't ping \\computername, this is name resolution issue.
> Also net view \\computername should some things like:
> C:\>net view \\computername
> Shared resources at \\computername
> Share name Type Used as Comment
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --- > Administrative Tools Disk > d Disk > data Disk > The command completed successfully.
> > IPCONFIG on Machine A (with no LAN) shows the LAN IP, the WAN IP, Gateway, > > DNS, DHCP > > enabled, Autoconfig enabled. Except for the LAN IP and the physical > > address, it looks like Machine B.
> > Net View shows all the machines on the LAN, Currently 4.
> > NBTSTAT shows the local machine and the group. There is a difference here > > in that on machine A, it shows > > the local machine 3 times and the group twice. On machine B is only shows > > the local machine 2 times (every other > > entry), In the TYPE section on machine A it has <00> unique, <03> unique > and > > <20> unique for the local machine and > > <00> group and <1E> group. On machine B it looks like this:
> > Local Area Connection:
> > Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []
> > NetBIOS Local Name Table
> > Name Type Status
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > BBS <00> UNIQUE Registered
> > INFINITI <00> GROUP Registered
> > BBS <20> UNIQUE Registered
> > INFINITI <1E> GROUP Registered
> > Running NBTSTAT gives the following results. On machine A it has:
> > Netbios names resolved by braodcast:
> > shows machine C (We haven't talked about this one) 8 times.
> > From machine B is shows:
> > machine C 6 times and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> > From Machine C is shows:
> > machine B 7 times one with <00> and machine A 1 times with a <00> by it.
> > I am not familair at all with what this is telling me, hopefully you can > > tell me.. :)
> > I see where it says on that ChicagoTech page where if it shows <20>, > NetBios > > is being
> > used, but it was NOT installed by me, unless they mean it's using it for > the > > test...
> > I am able to ping in both directions, 192.168.1.103 >< 192.168.1.100. > from > > each machine.
> > Also tracert to 192.168.1.103 (machine A) takes 1 hop and is done in 1ms
> > This is so weird, Everything says it should work but it does not!!
> > What else would you have me check at this point?
> > > You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the > give > > us > > > more information so that we help you. For more information, go to > > > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> > > > I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > > > > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > > > > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between > > > machines > > > > at all.
> > > > Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one > > machine > > > > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 > > machines > > > > although there is only 4 at this time.
If you got error 5 when using net view \\comutername, it is possible the permission or/and network setting problems. do you setup the same workgroup, enable sharing and logon the same username and password? try enable guest account on both computers and also make sure simple file sharing enabled. If it does not work, remove simple file sharing and re-share it without simple file sharing. For more information, go to http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network troubleshooting, setup and analysis pages.
> > OK. you can ping each other by using IP. But can you ping \\computername? > if > > you can't ping \\computername, this is name resolution issue.
> Can NOT ping \\computername. I get the following error:
> Ping request could not find host \\bbs (bbs=computername) Please check the > name and try again.
> > Also net view \\computername should some things like:
> Net view by itself shows all the machine names, but net view \\computername > returns and error:
> System error 5 has occurred > Access is denied.
> All computers are running XP-PRO.
> Thanks Robert.
> ..Chip..
> > C:\>net view \\computername
> > Shared resources at \\computername
> > Share name Type Used as Comment
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > --- > > Administrative Tools Disk > > d Disk > > data Disk > > The command completed successfully.
> > > IPCONFIG on Machine A (with no LAN) shows the LAN IP, the WAN IP, > Gateway, > > > DNS, DHCP > > > enabled, Autoconfig enabled. Except for the LAN IP and the physical > > > address, it looks like Machine B.
> > > Net View shows all the machines on the LAN, Currently 4.
> > > NBTSTAT shows the local machine and the group. There is a difference > here > > > in that on machine A, it shows > > > the local machine 3 times and the group twice. On machine B is only > shows > > > the local machine 2 times (every other > > > entry), In the TYPE section on machine A it has <00> unique, <03> unique > > and > > > <20> unique for the local machine and > > > <00> group and <1E> group. On machine B it looks like this:
> > > > You need to use some tools like ping and ipconfig to test it and the > > give > > > us > > > > more information so that we help you. For more information, go to > > > > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network tools.
> > > > > I have a small network setup at home, Linksys router , Cable modem. > > > > > On one machine running XP-PRO (brand new CLEAN install), the WAN > > > > > works, but the LAN does not. There is no LAN connectivity between > > > > machines > > > > > at all.
> > > > > Is there some setting in my Linksys Router stopping just this one > > > machine > > > > > from getting on the LAN? DHCP is set to ON and I have told it 8 > > > machines > > > > > although there is only 4 at this time.
Seems that 'simple file sharing' which was disabled was the ticket. I disabled it before for some other reason, (I do not remember why), but have re-enabled it and have been able to share ALL drive and connect to the network printers, etc.
I am able to ping machine names. I might have been able to do this before as I probably had the syntax of the command wrong. I was doing "ping \\machinename' where it wanted 'ping machinename' which worked fine to 2 of the 3 other machine and I can even ping the one I am on.
I am glad to get that resolved, but there has to be something else going on here too as that machine I couldn't get to also has ME on it and it had no LAN either and I know that changing things in XP didn't fix that!! :) What I did do though is reset my Router back to defaults and this might have helped.
One thing still. I can not ping another machine (by name) on the network (running XP-PRO). I can ping it by # (192.168.1.101) and do have it's drive-C mapped on my machine. I get that error that it can't find the host name.
Also, I am still having peer problems between machine A and machine B as I can not get video/voice to work in Windows Messenger (post for another newsgroup) :), but am very happy to have fixed the LAN problem!
Thanks Robert for sticking with me though this!
..Chip...
"Robert L" <bobli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If you got error 5 when using net view \\comutername, it is possible the > permission or/and network setting problems. do you setup the same workgroup, > enable sharing and logon the same username and password? try enable guest > account on both computers and also make sure simple file sharing enabled. If > it does not work, remove simple file sharing and re-share it without simple > file sharing. For more information, go to > http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech. check network troubleshooting, setup > and analysis pages.
