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Gerry

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Aug 19, 2007, 11:58:19 AM8/19/07
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Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information.

How much RAM memory?

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in
the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Curious1975 wrote:
> For some time now my computer seems to hang frequently thus
> displaying the "Not Responding" error on the top blue bar. At first
> I thought it was limited to my Internet Explorer, so I upgraded to IE
> 7 but it's still happens and even more frequently. First the program
> hangs, then I left click on the mouse and it displalys the "Not
> Responding" message, then I wait for it to finally resond. It also
> happens with Office programs or basically any other program installed.
>
> I am running Windows XP Home Edition with SP2.
>
> I have defraged my hard drive, run all SpyWare scans, cleaned up my
> cookies, temporary internet files, system tray, my Anti-Virus is
> up-to-date, I have installed all Microsoft updates, etc.
>
> Anybody have any suggestions as this is becoming quite annoying.


Curious1975

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Aug 19, 2007, 1:06:02 PM8/19/07
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Thanks for getting back to me.

Commit Charge:

Total: 659452
Limit: 845148
Peak: 7611880


Hard Drive: 30GB
Free Space: 10.9GB


RAM: 256MB


Event Viewer Logs:

Application Errors:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler
Event Category: Scheduler Events
Event ID: 101
Date: 8/19/2007
Time: 8:57:20 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Information Level: error

Initialization of the COM subsystem failed. Error code: 0x8007041D


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 8/15/2007
Time: 7:01:29 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application msimn.exe, version 6.0.2900.2180, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 6d 73 69 6d 6e 2e msimn.
0018: 65 78 65 20 36 2e 30 2e exe 6.0.
0020: 32 39 30 30 2e 32 31 38 2900.218
0028: 30 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 0 in hun
0030: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0038: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0040: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0048: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 8/13/2007
Time: 8:49:16 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16473, faulting module
flash9b.ocx, version 9.0.28.0, fault address 0x0018a6fa.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 69 65 78 ure iex
0018: 70 6c 6f 72 65 2e 65 78 plore.ex
0020: 65 20 37 2e 30 2e 36 30 e 7.0.60
0028: 30 30 2e 31 36 34 37 33 00.16473
0030: 20 69 6e 20 66 6c 61 73 in flas
0038: 68 39 62 2e 6f 63 78 20 h9b.ocx
0040: 39 2e 30 2e 32 38 2e 30 9.0.28.0
0048: 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 at offs
0050: 65 74 20 30 30 31 38 61 et 0018a
0058: 36 66 61 0d 0a 6fa..


Event Type: Error
Event Source: ASP.NET 1.0.3705.6060
Event Category: (1)
Event ID: 1031
Date: 7/10/2007
Time: 6:09:34 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1031 ) in Source ( ASP.NET 1.0.3705.6060 )
cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer.
You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see
Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event:
0x80040154.


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 7/5/2007
Time: 8:37:52 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16473, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x05467360.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 69 65 78 ure iex
0018: 70 6c 6f 72 65 2e 65 78 plore.ex
0020: 65 20 37 2e 30 2e 36 30 e 7.0.60
0028: 30 30 2e 31 36 34 37 33 00.16473
0030: 20 69 6e 20 75 6e 6b 6e in unkn
0038: 6f 77 6e 20 30 2e 30 2e own 0.0.
0040: 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 0.0 at o
0048: 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 35 ffset 05
0050: 34 36 37 33 36 30 0d 0a 467360..


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 7/2/2007
Time: 10:23:03 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application explorer.exe, version 6.0.2900.2180, hang module
hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 65 78 70 6c 6f 72 explor
0018: 65 72 2e 65 78 65 20 36 er.exe 6
0020: 2e 30 2e 32 39 30 30 2e .0.2900.
0028: 32 31 38 30 20 69 6e 20 2180 in
0030: 68 75 6e 67 61 70 70 20 hungapp
0038: 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 0.0.0.0
0040: 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 at offse
0048: 74 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 t 000000
0050: 30 30 00


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 7/2/2007
Time: 10:22:22 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application ACDSee.exe, version 4.0.2.664, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 41 43 44 53 65 65 ACDSee
0018: 2e 65 78 65 20 34 2e 30 .exe 4.0
0020: 2e 32 2e 36 36 34 20 69 .2.664 i
0028: 6e 20 68 75 6e 67 61 70 n hungap
0030: 70 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e p 0.0.0.
0038: 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 0 at off
0040: 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 30 set 0000
0048: 30 30 30 30 0000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 6/25/2007
Time: 9:44:10 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application mplayerc.exe, version 6.4.9.0, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 6d 70 6c 61 79 65 mplaye
0018: 72 63 2e 65 78 65 20 36 rc.exe 6
0020: 2e 34 2e 39 2e 30 20 69 .4.9.0 i
0028: 6e 20 68 75 6e 67 61 70 n hungap
0030: 70 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e p 0.0.0.
0038: 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 0 at off
0040: 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 30 set 0000
0048: 30 30 30 30 0000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 6/15/2007
Time: 10:31:06 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16473, hang module
hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 69 65 78 70 6c 6f iexplo
0018: 72 65 2e 65 78 65 20 37 re.exe 7
0020: 2e 30 2e 36 30 30 30 2e .0.6000.
0028: 31 36 34 37 33 20 69 6e 16473 in
0030: 20 68 75 6e 67 61 70 70 hungapp
0038: 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 0.0.0.0
0040: 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 at offs
0048: 65 74 20 30 30 30 30 30 et 00000
0050: 30 30 30 000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 5/23/2007
Time: 5:44:16 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application WINWORD.EXE, version 10.0.2627.0, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 57 49 4e 57 4f 52 WINWOR
0018: 44 2e 45 58 45 20 31 30 D.EXE 10
0020: 2e 30 2e 32 36 32 37 2e .0.2627.
0028: 30 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 0 in hun
0030: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0038: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0040: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0048: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 5/20/2007
Time: 10:38:07 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application Setup.exe, version 1.1.704.16001, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 53 65 74 75 70 2e Setup.
0018: 65 78 65 20 31 2e 31 2e exe 1.1.
0020: 37 30 34 2e 31 36 30 30 704.1600
0028: 31 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 1 in hun
0030: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0038: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0040: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0048: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 5/11/2007
Time: 4:25:24 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Hanging application LUALL.EXE, version 3.2.0.41, hang module hungapp,
version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 4c 55 41 4c 4c 2e LUALL.
0018: 45 58 45 20 33 2e 32 2e EXE 3.2.
0020: 30 2e 34 31 20 69 6e 20 0.41 in
0028: 68 75 6e 67 61 70 70 20 hungapp
0030: 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 0.0.0.0
0038: 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 at offse
0040: 74 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 t 000000
0048: 30 30 00

The following seem to be the most prevelant:

1000
101
1002

________________________________________________________



System Errors:


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7000
Date: 8/19/2007
Time: 8:57:27 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
The LiveUpdate service failed to start due to the following error:
The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely
fashion.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10005
Date: 8/19/2007
Time: 8:57:13 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
DCOM got error "The service did not respond to the start or control request
in a timely fashion. " attempting to start the service LiveUpdate with
arguments "" in order to run the server:
{03E0E6C2-363B-11D3-B536-00902771A435}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Event Type: Error
Event Source: W32Time
Event Category: None
Event ID: 17
Date: 8/16/2007
Time: 8:45:15 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Time Provider NtpClient: An error occurred during DNS lookup of the manually
configured peer 'time.windows.com,0x1'. NtpClient will try the DNS lookup
again in 15 minutes. The error was: A socket operation was attempted to an
unreachable host. (0x80072751)

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7009
Date: 8/15/2007
Time: 6:23:46 PM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
Timeout (30000 milliseconds) waiting for the LiveUpdate service to connect.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Cdrom
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7
Date: 7/25/2007
Time: 8:59:50 AM
User: N/A
Computer: D3TZ2N21
Description:
The device, \Device\CdRom1, has a bad block.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 03 00 68 00 01 00 b8 00 ..h...¸.
0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......À
0010: 00 01 00 00 9c 00 00 c0 ....œ..À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 38 5e 28 00 00 00 00 .8^(....
0028: b9 67 cf 01 00 00 00 00 ¹gÏ.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 01 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
0038: 40 00 00 c4 02 00 01 00 @..Ä....
0040: 00 20 0a 12 48 02 00 40 . ..H..@
0048: 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 c8 f6 8f ff ....Èö ÿ
0058: 00 00 00 00 08 f0 8f ff .....ð ÿ
0060: 02 00 00 00 c7 0b 05 00 ....Ç...
0068: 28 00 00 05 0b c7 00 00 (....Ç..
0070: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0078: f0 00 03 00 05 0b c7 0c ð.....Ç.
0080: 00 00 00 00 15 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........


The following seem to be the most prevelant:


10005
7011
7009
7000


I hope I did this right so you can understand. Any further advice is
appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Gerry

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Aug 19, 2007, 3:27:20 PM8/19/07
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Your main problem is fairly obvious. Insufficient RAM memory. You need
to add at least 256 mb but the system would probably benefit from adding
512 mb. You need to consult your motherboard manual to see what type and
amount of memory can be installed.

What is your CPU speed?

What is your computer make and model? What is the make and model of your
motherboard?

Event Type: Error Event Source: Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler Event
Category: Scheduler Events Event ID: 101

This indicates that the Windows Updates for August were not installed.
The problem could well have arisen because your system had not long been
started and was busy running anti-virus scans etc. You should check to
see if the Updates have since installed.

Select, Start, Help and Support, Keep your Windows up- to-date with
Windows Update, Review your Update History .You should see a number of
successful updates on or after 19 August 2007 if they have been
installed. If there are any red Failed Icons click on each icon and post
details of the Error code.

If no updates are there. Select, Start, Help and Support, Keep your
Windows up- to-date with Windows Update, Custom and then follow on
screen instructions.
Only try this after Windows XP has been running for 30 minutes and any
anti-virus scan has completed.

What anti-virus and anti-spyware programmes do you have installed. If
you have the anti-virus programme I think you have your system may
benefit from having a less demanding programme.

It is difficult to be sure whether the other error are being caused by a
stressed system have insufficient RAM memory or for some other reason.


--

Hope this helps.

> 0010: 00 01 00 00 9c 00 00 c0 ....o..À

Curious1975

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Aug 19, 2007, 5:12:02 PM8/19/07
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Dell Dimension 2350

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2392 Mhz
Intel, Pentium 4 CPU, 2.40GHz

Symantec/Norton Anti-Virus v. 14.2.0.29

Anti-Spy:

I downloaded SUPER Anti-Spyware (Free Edition) the other day to double check
my Verizon version just in case that one was missing something. It picked up
the typical spyware and I removed it.

Verizon Yahoo Online Protection Anti-Spy v. 2005.5.2.1

Motherboard - don't know how to tell other than downloading a program to
tell me and at this point I'd rather not download anything else


Update History - all successful for August 19 and prior

Software Updates - 5 (don't know if they're necessary so I haven't installed
them)

Root Certificates Update
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
Remote Desktop Connection (Terminal Services Client 6.0) for Windows XP
(KB925876)
Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider Package: x86
(KB909520)
Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1


Hardware Updates - 1

Conexant Systems, Inc. - Modems - Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem

While I have your attention, a program called ccApp always hangs when I'm
shutting down the computer and I have to End Task on it. Also, something
called FontCapture does the same thing. Today explorer.exe also hung and I
had to "End" it.

Upon restart, it takes a good 3-4 minutes for my icons to appear and then
another minute or so before I can click on anything.

I thought maybe these issues were all related to my overall problem so I'm
mentioning them.

Again, I appreciate your assistance.

nass

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Aug 19, 2007, 6:22:01 PM8/19/07
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"Curious1975" wrote:

Adding to Gerry advice which I disagree with, the applications/programs you
have if maintain correctly can happily perform under 256 MB of RAM you have,
but you looks having a trouble somewhere on your system.

I commented some not all of the error messages , but please check the Time
and Date on your system set up correctly as this can screw up the updates for
windows and other software on your System.

first try this to perform the rest of steps:
Run disk clean up and Defrag in safe mode, if your system configured to
remember password you can be selective in your clean up method.

= Hanging application msimn.exe
Event ID: 1002
Microsoft Outlook Express

= Initialization of the COM subsystem failed. Error code: 0x8007041D
Event ID: 101
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902322

= Hanging application ACDSee.exe
Nokia PC Suite for your mobile to sync and access/share files/folders and
contacts.

= mplayerc.exe
Media Player Classic , this not Windows media player (9,10,11)

= LUALL.EXE
Symantec LiveUpdate, if you run the update engine for Norton which the
Process ccApp.exe is a Symantec process, that indicate symantec didn't
release the Memory on shut down causing this error to be thrown on the log.
As I said if you run the update for Norton you will get the error message
updates failed with this error "LUALL.EXE" 80078 or similar, then there is a
link click on this and you will be taken to symantec to download a plug-in
for the Update engine which check for updates and sysnc with the symantec
server in real time, download the tool, there is a step-by-step guide on how
to perform this.

Then open a run command and type in:
sfc /scannow click [OK] you may need your XP CD installation media for this
procedure to be accomplished

Or repair/install of XP, note if you have IE7 you need to uninstall to
perform the repair.
How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
HTH.
nass
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www.nasstec.co.uk

Gerry

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Aug 20, 2007, 10:49:28 AM8/20/07
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Notwithstanding the comments by Nass I still think your key problem is
insufficient RAM memory. True there are other problems but these would
diminish with more RAM and the nature of these other problems would
become clearer. You should be aware that Nass and I frequently compare
notes as we tend to respond to the same problems.

The need for more RAM can be verified by running a freeware utility
which gives better information on pagefile usage than Task Manager.
Using this tool will have a negligible impact on your system.

Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it to run
immediately after start-up and look at the log. Pagefilemon takes
snapshots. You need to run it at the beginning of the session at then
run it again at intervals throughout the sessions. The log is Pagefile
log.txt. If you right click on the file in Windows Explorer and select
Send to, Desktop (Create Shortcut). The same applies to
XP_PageFileMon.exe.

A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

Note programs using undo features, particularly those associated with
graphics and photo editing, require large amounts of memory so if you
use this type of programme check these first observing how the page
usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when you
close the programme.

You do have the anti-virus programme I thought you might have. Norton
does bring with it a large footprint and this will have a noticeable
impact on system performance. There are other freeware programmes which
do the business without the performance downside. Norton still enjoys a
good reputation with business users but is not rated highly nowadays for
use on home computers.

Memory

Architecture
DDR SDRAM

Memory connectors
two

Memory capacities
128-, 256-, or 512-MB

Minimum memory
128 MB shared DDR SDRAM

NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be allocated to
support graphics, depending on system memory size and other factors.

Maximum memory
1 GB

Memory type
PC2100 (266-MHz) DDR SDRAM
(non-ECC)

System information regarding adding memory. Maximum for your computer
1,024 mb.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1107033

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/replace.htm#1183874

ccApp is part of Norton

FontCapture (or should it be Font Capture) leads me to another question.
Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader ? If yes, which specific version? Are
you just using it to read and print pdf documents or are you editing pdf
documents? There have problems reported with some versions of Adobe and
it has a large footprint much like Norton.

Gerry

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:01:33 AM8/20/07
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Are you using ACDSee Pro Photo Manager?

Curious1975

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:38:01 AM8/20/07
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Thanks Gerry and Nass for the advice.

I have ACDSee 4.0 installed and it has been since shortly after I bought the
computer 4 years ago.

I have the full version of Adobe installed (again since day one); however I
only use it to read and print documents.

I have several graphic/photo editing programs intalled and use them fairly
frequently. I have PaintShop Pro, Print Shop, Photo Editor, Adobe PhotoShop
and possible a few others. All of these have been installed since day one as
well. I do have a large number of photo's on my pc and I regularly save them
to CD and remove them.

As for Norton, when my subscription was up for renewal a couple of months
ago I somehow ended up upgraded to their latest version for free instead of
just renewing the one I had. Quite frankly I preferred the older version,
plus it took my Norton Utilities away with it. I do think my "Not
Responding" problems have gotten worse since then. Coincidence? I don't
know.

Other than the Norton upgrade and the IE 7 upgrade, I haven't installed
anything new to the computer. I even removed all my mp3 files to clear up
3GB of room thinking that might help. Why all of a sudden is my RAM an issue
do you think?

Gerry

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Aug 20, 2007, 12:31:18 PM8/20/07
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Adding to Gerry advice which I disagree with, the applications/programs
you
have if maintain correctly can happily perform under 256 MB of RAM you
have,

Nass Do you wish to stand by this statement?


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Gerry

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You have many programmes requiring abnormal amounts of memory:

ACDSee 4.0
Adobe
Adobe PhotoShop
Norton
PaintShop Pro
Photo Editor

Curious1975

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Call me naive, but these programs (the upgraded Norton withstanding) have all
been installed for years without issue sowhat would cause them to suddenly be
a problem. Also, are they draining my memory even though when the "Not
Responding" error occurs, they're not even running?

Gerry

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You need to run page file monitor to confirm exactly how much of the
pagefile is actually being used.

Norton will cause a particular problem at start because most likely
iniates a full scan. This alone can make a computer unusable until the
scan has completed. If you succeed in starting another programme before
the scan has completed there is every chance that you will get a Not
Responding message for the programme you have started. How long does it
take for Norton to complete the scan on start up? How many files is
Norton scanning?

Although you say these programmes have been installed for years I doubt
they are the same as when they were first installed. Adobe has definely
grown significantly in size over the years.Which of the programmes I
listed load on start up. Do they need to load on start up or could you
change any to load on demand.

If a programme is Not Responding it is still running. Just end it in
Task Manager and notice how the response from the computer improves.
When a Not Responding message is generated it is indicative that the
programme has hit a problem. It can then keep trying to resolve the
problem but in doing so only exacerbates the problem. It can be better
to stop the programme and try again at a more favourable time.

Is there a direct correlation between the start up process and the Not
Responding messages? If the computer has been running some time are the
Not Responding messages less frequent, the same or more frequent?

What are the precise versions of Adobe you have?

Curious1975

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Aug 20, 2007, 9:22:02 PM8/20/07
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Ok, I will run page file monitor in the next day or so and report back on that.

As for my Adobe products:

Acrobat 5.0
Distiller 5.0
Illustrator 10.0.3
Image Ready 7.0
PhotoShop 7.0

I don't have any programs in my Startup. Learned that lesson a long time
ago but it still takes 4 minutes for my icons to appear and to be able to
proceed. I'm wondering what is stalling it. You think it's Norton? Even
though it's not in my Startup? Is there somewhere else I can look to stop it
from scanning on startup if that is indeed what's happening?


Usually when I get the "Not Responding" error, I just have to left click my
mouse, wait a couple of seconds and it clears up. Just a little while ago
however and once earlier today it hung for several minutes and I was unable
to even get to my Task Manager.

Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this.

nass

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Hi Curious,
Try these cleaning steps please and let us know:
1... First, try to clean up your caches, Internet files and delete cookies
by doing this:
Click Start >> Control Panel >> Double click Network and Internet
Connections >> Double click Internet Options.
On the IE properties windows you will see these Taps:
General | Security | Privacy | Content | Connections | Programs |
Advanced
Under General Tab clear your History, Internet Files and Cookies.
Then click on Advanced tab and scroll down to under the Browsing Option:
[&] Browsing
[ ] Enable Third-Party browser extensions (Req Rest) uncheck this box.
Then click on Programs Tab and click Manage Add-Ons and Disable all non
Verified Add-Ons (You should Renable them later one-by-one and see the
culprit and update it or remove it.
For Malware download both these software:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=sah
http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-gb/default.htm
http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad-aware_se_personal.php
http://www.safer-networking.org ; for Spybot S&D
Run a scan from here on-line:
http://www.sophos.com
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp?productid=symhome&langid=ie&venid=sym
Download Avast Cleaner from here:
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-virus-cleaner.html
Lots of tools to download and disinfect your machine:
http://www.bitdefender.co.uk/site/Downloads/browseFreeRemovalTool/
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/lng/us/tpl/v5

2- Run a test for the Memory and also try to swap them around and clear any
dust may be in your PC case:
To test your memory download memory test from here:
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Please perform one step (1,2) at a time and see if that will help.

Download the Hijackthis and send the report to one of
many
forums for analysis and troubleshooting:
When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
(http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use.
It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. Post
your log to http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30,
http://castlecops.com/forum67.html,
http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7, or other appropriate
forums for expert analysis, not here.

could you send me a copy of the log at ( to_you_rossatyahoo.co.uk).
Could capture what running when this error occur?, what processor taking the
CPU usage at the moment of the Stop error or just random!.
Gerry, I sand with my statement and I will tell you when this post
close(hopefully with success in solving the OP issue).
HTH.
nass
===
www.nasstec.co.uk

Gerry

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Aug 21, 2007, 5:59:20 AM8/21/07
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There would seem to be many more places from which programmes start than
you might think!

Msconfig is a Diagnostic Utility and not intended to be used to turn off
unwanted start up programmes. You do this from within each programme or
using a programme like Autoruns. Leave msconfig alone and try Autoruns:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

Look in Norton for ways to suspend scanning on Start Up to test it's
impact.

It would be helpful if you answered my earlier question. Is there a

direct correlation between the start up process and the Not Responding
messages? If the computer has been running some time are the Not
Responding messages less frequent, the same or more frequent?

--

john

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"Gerry" wrote:

> Are you using ACDSee Pro Photo Manager?
>
> --
>


get rid of all norton&syntec you have a 30 day free trial now
uninstall wont work norton makes a backup of everything
so go ask norton how to do it

Gerry

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John

Why would I need to know that? You need to tell the person using Norton!
You would find that easier if you used a proper newsreader.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
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Curious1975

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Aug 24, 2007, 8:32:01 PM8/24/07
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No, there does not seem to be any correlation to the startup process and the
Not responding error. It can happen at any time.

You both gave me a lot of suggestions to try and I've been busy so I haven't
had a chance to test any of them out just yet. Will post when I do.

Thanks!

rlarse

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rlarse

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Oct 17, 2007, 2:28:01 PM10/17/07
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"Gerry" wrote:

> >>>>>>>Have the same problem with Vista & Outlook and Word 2007. Sometimes after showing "Not Responding" the screen goes opaque, then back to "Not Responding" then it opens. I have had it take as long a 5 minutes on occasion.

Curious1975

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It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
naviagte my computer much faster.

Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
grinding sound from within the CPU. I can't see how the installation of
additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
damaging anything?

Any assistance is appreciated.

Ken Blake, MVP

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
<Curio...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
> memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
> and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
> dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
> I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
> had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
> naviagte my computer much faster.
>
> Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
> grinding sound from within the CPU.


The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
CPU.

> I can't see how the installation of
> additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
> happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
> damaging anything?


It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
certainly either the hard drive or a fan.

If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
many things.

If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Curious1975

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Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just using CPU
to describe the tower. Now I'm all worried that my hard dive is going to
fail me (I'm in the process of backing up files as I type this though). When
I added the memory it was the first time ever in over four years that I had
opened up the computer. Lots of dust in there. I cleared it out with Air
Duster and then added the memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems
to happen when I visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of
anything but thought I'd throw it out there.

Ken Blake, MVP

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:36:05 -0800, Curious1975
<Curio...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just using CPU
> to describe the tower.


OK, but that's inaccurate and misleading, and will confuse people. The
tower (the case) is just a box, and is a very different thing from a
CPU.


> Now I'm all worried that my hard dive is going to
> fail me


From what you've said, it should certainly be a concern.


> (I'm in the process of backing up files as I type this though).


Good. When you're finished, run a drive checking utility.


> When
> I added the memory it was the first time ever in over four years that I had
> opened up the computer. Lots of dust in there. I cleared it out with Air
> Duster


Excellent! You should do this periodically. The result of not doing so
can be overheating and hardware failure.


> and then added the memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems
> to happen when I visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of
> anything but thought I'd throw it out there.


That seems very odd. If it's a hardware issue, what web site you're at
should be irrelevant. What web sites are they?

Gerry

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Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
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Curious1975 wrote:

Curious1975

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HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information

Firmware version : V21OA66A
Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : yes
Power-up in Standby : yes
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : no

Partition : 1
Drive letter :
Label :
Capacity : 31 MB
Usage : 0.00%
Type : unknown (DEh)
Bootable : No

Partition : 2
Drive letter : C:\
Label :
Capacity : 28576 MB
Usage : 63.58%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

-----------------------------------------
HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status

(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0 Ok

(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok

(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399 Ok

(C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406 Ok

(C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406 Ok

(C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534 Ok

(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 7337
Health Status : Ok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan

Scanned data : 28598 MB
Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
Elapsed Time : 27:10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disk Defrag:

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 27.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 17.69 GB
Free space = 10.21 GB
Percent free space = 36 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 14 %
File fragmentation = 27 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 91,857
Average file size = 382 KB
Total fragmented files = 4,867
Total excess fragments = 20,322
Average fragments per file = 1.22

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
Total fragments = 5

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,667
Fragmented folders = 114
Excess folder fragments = 337

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 182 MB
MFT record count = 98,832
Percent MFT in use = 52 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
386 25 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi
351 49 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
Folder (2)\Doc 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV
343 24 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
332 42 MB \System Volume
Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci
276 17 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
267 17 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
256 16 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
197 13 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
186 12 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
183 12 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi
169 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml
160 10 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp
116 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Apple
Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
91 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
89 354 KB \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log
80 5 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb
79 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat
77 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN
76 9 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp
61 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
Folder\Candid Personal\Pics\Thumbs.db
59 5 MB \WINDOWS\Temp\slu4728.tmp
59 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
56 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\tmp4692.tmp\VIRSCAN5.DAT
53 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
53 1 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\My
Pictures\Christopher & Julianna\July to Dec 2006\Thumbs.db
52 3 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u9hgz1o9.default\urlclassifier2.sqlite
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I ran a defrag afterwards (which I do do periodically anyway).

I hope all of that makes sense to you. Let me know if you can discern
anything from it which might be causing my problem.

Thanks.

Curious1975

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Not sure if it's significant, but after defragmenting I received the
following in the report:

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 27.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB

Used space = 17.70 GB


Free space = 10.21 GB
Percent free space = 36 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 9 %
File fragmentation = 17 %


Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 91,861


Average file size = 382 KB

Total fragmented files = 15
Total excess fragments = 1,465
Average fragments per file = 1.01

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
Total fragments = 5

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,667
Fragmented folders = 1

Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 182 MB

MFT record count = 98,836


Percent MFT in use = 52 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented


1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf

Gerry

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Dec 7, 2007, 7:01:56 PM12/7/07
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There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and is
multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is most
likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in use I would
run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the programme more than
once, perhaps as many as three times to get a result. However, before
running Disk Defragmenter you should clean up the drive.

It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?

I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe Photoshop 7.
They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been updated a
number of times. Do you have the latest update?

Do you leave the computer on 24/7?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance

Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? Can
you provide figures immediately after starting your computer anlso after
you have started your favourite photographic program and doing what ever
you do with program.

Curious1975

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Dec 7, 2007, 9:57:00 PM12/7/07
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As I mentioned, in the past I have defragmented and it's always defragmented
without issue or errors so I was surprised to see that today. Not sure what
the ImageDB.dff file is. I will try your suggestions and report back.

I am not sure if I have the latest Adobe Photoshop updates or not. I will
look into that as well.

I don't leave the computer on 24/7 per say. When not in use, I usually have
it in Hibernate mode. I do reboot it about once a week or when updates
require it or when I feel it necessary. Is putting it in hibernate a bad
thing. Would it be better to turn it off or just leave it on instead?

I would say ACDsee is the most used photo progam on my pc. It's what I use
to view any and all pictures and I frequently do so.

I'll report back tomorrow with more details.

Thanks again for your assistance.

Gerry

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According to my research ImageDB.dff is an ACDsee file containing
Thumbnals.

What version of ACDsee are you using?

I found some ACDsee User Manuals. You can remove unwanted Thumbnails. Do
you ever do this?

I am not sure what affect Hibernate has on releasing memory. It may not
release memory as Shutdown and Restart does. Hibernate dumps the whole
of what is held in RAM to the hard disk. At least that is my present
understanding of the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_XP#Hibernate_mode

Curious1975

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Thanks for the info abot the ImageDB.dff. I have never removed unwanted
thumbnails. I don't even know which thumbnails it's referring to. I mean,
what would make some thumbnails unwanted and not others? Do you have a link
to the ACDsee Manuals so I can take a look? I am running version 4.0.2.0664.

Back to the information you asked me to get yesterday.

I changed the System Restore to 845MB/3% because 700MB wasn't an option.

I ran a Degrag in Safe Mode and it was still unable to defrag the
ImageDB.dff file. Did you think if I ran it a couple of more times in Safe
Mode that it would help? I was unclear about that.

From Task Manager:

On a reboot: Commit - Total = 263320 (it kept changing slightly), Limit =
1920644, Peak = 301036

After starting ACDsee: Commit - Total 321480 (again kept changing), Limit =
1920649, Peak = 364008.

Thanks again!

Gerry

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When I download from my camera to my computer I place the files in an As
Imported folder. When I edit or crop the photos I place the files in an
As amended folder. If you I used Thumbnail I would have two thumbs when
only one might be needed. Some photos when you download can be so like
another that they are not worth keeping. Doesn't the same apply to
thumbnails as to the files?

User guides
http://www.acdsee.com/support/trainingcenter/userguides/index

Page 71 may be of interest.

Resizing System Restore to 845 mb is fine. Did you also do this before
running Disk Defragmenter. "Also select Start, All Programs,

accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore

and remove all but the latest SystemRestore point."?

The Commit Charge figures are presently pointing to a problem with
ACDSee>

In Task Manager what processes are showing the largest Mem Usage and
Peak Mem Usage on the Prosses tab. You may need to add these columns to
those presently displayed -View, Select Columns.

rlw@sb*

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I had the same problem. I have Webroot spysweeper antivirus and antispyware
software. I did a custom scan including root kits and found a very critical
root kit problem that had to be quaratined and now my computer runs very
well. The other antivirus and antispyware programs did not catch this problem
at all. I have tried many of the most popular ones. Hopefully, this will
help if you get Webroot Spysweeper 5.5 software.

"Curious1975" wrote:

> For some time now my computer seems to hang frequently thus displaying the
> "Not Responding" error on the top blue bar. At first I thought it was
> limited to my Internet Explorer, so I upgraded to IE 7 but it's still happens
> and even more frequently. First the program hangs, then I left click on the
> mouse and it displalys the "Not Responding" message, then I wait for it to
> finally resond. It also happens with Office programs or basically any other
> program installed.
>
> I am running Windows XP Home Edition with SP2.
>
> I have defraged my hard drive, run all SpyWare scans, cleaned up my cookies,
> temporary internet files, system tray, my Anti-Virus is up-to-date, I have
> installed all Microsoft updates, etc.
>
> Anybody have any suggestions as this is becoming quite annoying.
>
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