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1. Phillip Pi

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From: Phillip Pi <phillip...@symantec.comSYMC>

Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:04:10 -0800

Local: Thurs, Dec 1 2005 4:04 pm

Subject: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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Recently, I was using the computer and surfing on the Web. Then, all the
sudden Windows XP Professional SP2 (all updates) said network cable was
unplugged. I checked the CAT5 ethernet/network cable cable, and it was
fine. I tried another cable, and the onboard network didn't detect it
either. I checked both cables on my old Apple PowerBook G4, and they had
no problems.

I even tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and upgrading the VIA VT823x
PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (from Windows Update). Also, reinstalled VIA
4in1 Hyperion driver. None of them helped or changed anything that I
noticed.

Does this sound like the onboard network died? :( I am currently using
wireless USB network which isn't very stable and slow. Thank you in advance
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Phillip Pi
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
Norton SystemWorks (PC)
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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2. Yves Leclerc

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From: "Yves Leclerc" <yvesleclercNOS...@sympatico.ca>

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:38:28 -0500

Local: Thurs, Dec 1 2005 4:38 pm

Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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Have you recently installed an new USB device? Yesterday, I "witnessed" an
IBM A40 laptop loose all wired network/Internet access when my client
connected a new Canon Prixma iP500 printer. It seems that the printer's USB
connection was/is shorting out the USB controller and that took out the
network with it. By disconnecting this "bad" printer, the network/Internet
came back.

BTW: You should post using a different account, if you do not want support
queries.

On 01/12/2005 Phillip Pi <phillip...@symantec.comSYMC> wrote:

>Recently, I was using the computer and surfing on the Web. Then, all the
>sudden Windows XP Professional SP2 (all updates) said network cable was
>unplugged. I checked the CAT5 ethernet/network cable cable, and it was
>fine. I tried another cable, and the onboard network didn't detect it
>either. I checked both cables on my old Apple PowerBook G4, and they had
>no problems.

>I even tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and upgrading the VIA VT823x
>PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (from Windows Update). Also, reinstalled VIA
>4in1 Hyperion driver. None of them helped or changed anything that I
>noticed.

>Does this sound like the onboard network died? :( I am currently using
>wireless USB network which isn't very stable and slow. Thank you in advance

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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:48:01 -0800

Local: Fri, Dec 2 2005 3:48 am

Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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On 12/1/2005 1:38 PM PT, Yves Leclerc wrote:

Hmm, the latest one would be an external regular HDD enclosure (Kingwin)
with a Seagate 250 GB HDD (7200 RPM). I was using it before the incident
happened. I didn't unplug and replug either. Right now, it is off.

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From: st.daniel <stdan...@discussions.microsoft.com>

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:33:02 -0800

Local: Fri, Dec 2 2005 12:33 am

Subject: RE: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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How many Network Adapters show in Device Manager?

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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:45:02 -0800

Local: Fri, Dec 2 2005 3:45 am

Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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I see six. Two of them are virtual and one isn't really a network.

1. 1394 Net Adapter #2
2. Hawking Technologis USB 2.0 Wireless Network Adapter (using it right now)
3. TechniSat DVB-PC TV Star PCI (HDTV tuner)
4. VIA RHine II Fast Ethernet Adapter (the one that no longer sees my cable)
5. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1
6. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8

On 12/1/2005 9:33 PM PT, st.daniel wrote:

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From: st.daniel <stdan...@discussions.microsoft.com>

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:27:02 -0800

Local: Fri, Dec 2 2005 6:27 pm

Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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I take it you were Using the VIA and it went down, not just got a message
about an adapter you Weren't using?
Do you have a combo wireless/hardwired router in the mix, also?
You realize the Hyperion drivers have nada to do with your ethernet
adapter; Almost positive they are separate. [4-in-1 is Inf,AGP,RAID, &IDE
Filter]
Do you have the mainboard manual? If so, Ethernet integrated with
SouthBridge, or separate chip? That determines proper drivers.
Check at ECS site if no manual.

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"Ant" wrote:
> I see six. Two of them are virtual and one isn't really a network.

> 1. 1394 Net Adapter #2
> 2. Hawking Technologis USB 2.0 Wireless Network Adapter (using it right now)
> 3. TechniSat DVB-PC TV Star PCI (HDTV tuner)
> 4. VIA RHine II Fast Ethernet Adapter (the one that no longer sees my cable)
> 5. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1
> 6. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8

> On 12/1/2005 9:33 PM PT, st.daniel wrote:

> > How many Network Adapters show in Device Manager?

> >>Recently, I was using the computer and surfing on the Web. Then, all the
> >>sudden Windows XP Professional SP2 (all updates) said network cable was
> >>unplugged. I checked the CAT5 ethernet/network cable cable, and it was
> >>fine. I tried another cable, and the onboard network didn't detect it
> >>either. I checked both cables on my old Apple PowerBook G4, and they had
> >>no problems.

> >>I even tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and upgrading the VIA VT823x
> >>PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (from Windows Update). Also, reinstalled VIA
> >>4in1 Hyperion driver. None of them helped or changed anything that I
> >>noticed.

> >>Does this sound like the onboard network died? :( I am currently using
> >>wireless USB network which isn't very stable and slow. Thank you in advance
> >>--
> >>Phillip Pi
> >>Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
> >>Norton SystemWorks (PC)
> >>Symantec Corporation
> >>www.symantec.com
> >>-----------------------------------------------------
> >>Email: phillip...@symantec.comSYMC (remove SYMC to reply by e-mail)
> >>-----------------------------------------------------
> >>Please do NOT e-mail me for technical support. DISCLAIMER: The views
> >>expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the
> >>views of my employer. Thank you.

> --
> "What do ants and bees use for cattle?" --Tom
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7. Ant

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More options Dec 3 2005, 8:58 am

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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 05:58:24 -0800

Local: Sat, Dec 3 2005 8:58 am

Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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On 12/2/2005 3:27 PM PT, st.daniel wrote:

> I take it you were Using the VIA and it went down, not just got a message
> about an adapter you Weren't using?

Yep. Using the Internet, got disconnected, and then saw "A network cable
is unplugged" error. Then, later added a wireless network device so I
could use the Internet. :(

> Do you have a combo wireless/hardwired router in the mix, also?

Sort of. I am using an old Netgear RT311 router as my gateway and DHCP
server. There is a Netgear DS108 hub (8 ports) connected to it that
collect network cables for connections. That includes a Linksys WAP11 WAP.

> You realize the Hyperion drivers have nada to do with your ethernet
> adapter; Almost positive they are separate. [4-in-1 is Inf,AGP,RAID, &IDE
> Filter]

Yes. I already downloaded the latest network driver from Windows
Updates. Even newer than the one on EPS' Web site.

> Do you have the mainboard manual? If so, Ethernet integrated with
> SouthBridge, or separate chip? That determines proper drivers.

Manual said SouthBridge.

> Check at ECS site if no manual.

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?D...
or http://tinyurl.com/8ytxf FYI.

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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 05:52:37 -0800

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Subject: Re: Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

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On 12/2/2005 9:19 PM PT, d...@zxcd.vcv wrote:

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I turn off my machine when I am not using it for a few hours. So, that
didn't work. :( Thanks for the suggestion though. :)
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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 06:20:40 -0800

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On 12/3/2005 5:52 AM PT, Ant wrote:

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I just realized you said unplug the main power cord too. I just turn the
machine and CRT off when not in used for a long time. I tried that for
30 seconds. Even turned off with the back PSU switch. I powered the
system back on, and it worked!! Woah! What the heck? Why did this work?

Good job!!
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From: Ant <phi...@earthlink.netANT>

Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 08:48:26 -0800

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On 12/3/2005 7:10 AM PT, d...@zxcd.vcv wrote:

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>>>>>>Recently, I was using the computer and surfing on the Web. Then, all
>>>>>>the sudden Windows XP Professional SP2 (all updates) said network
>>>>>>cable was unplugged. I checked the CAT5 ethernet/network cable
>>>>>>cable, and it was fine. I tried another cable, and the onboard
>>>>>>network didn't detect it either. I checked both cables on my old
>>>>>>Apple PowerBook G4, and they had no problems.

>>>>>>I even tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and upgrading the VIA
>>>>>>VT823x PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (from Windows Update). Also,
>>>>>>reinstalled VIA 4in1 Hyperion driver. None of them helped or
>>>>>>changed anything that I noticed.

>>>>>>Does this sound like the onboard network died? :( I am currently
>>>>>>using wireless USB network which isn't very stable and slow. Thank
>>>>>>you in advance

>>>>I had this happen a few times. The fix for me was to shut down and
>>>>unplug the main power cord to take all power from the computer for
>>>>about 10 sec. Boot up and works fine. I thought my on board was shot
>>>>too but that got it going. Had to do it maybe 2 times in the last
>>>>year.

>>>I turn off my machine when I am not using it for a few hours. So, that
>>>didn't work. :( Thanks for the suggestion though. :)

>>I just realized you said unplug the main power cord too. I just turn the
>>machine and CRT off when not in used for a long time. I tried that for
>>30 seconds. Even turned off with the back PSU switch. I powered the
>>system back on, and it worked!! Woah! What the heck? Why did this work?

>>Good job!!

> With the newer computers they have some power goes to them all the
> time even when powered off, It seem for some reason if a card locks up
> it holds it somehow because of the power even when turned off. so
> unplugging main power releases it all. I have also read that any time
> you update your video driver it helps to take all power away to get
> the most from the new driver. Seem to work for me on that one too.
> BUT not real sure why, total power off seems to help. I remove power
> from my computer every so often just to make sure everything gets a
> fresh set.

I had another incident when my network lost sense of the network cable.
I had to repeat the steps. I am trying lower speed (10BaseT Half Duplex)
now. It seems to be stable, but I might had been lucky. :P Did you have
to do this too?
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