Fuck Off All Microsoft Users
Greg
FFFFF U U CCCC K K OOOO FFFFF FFFFF
F U U C K K O O F F
FFF U U C K-K O O FFF FFF
F U U C K K O O F F
F UuuU CCCC K K OOOO F F
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Greg
In message <fdc4b4c34...@localhost.local>
Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> A message to *all* Microsoft users from comp.sys.acorn (CSA)
>
> FFFFF U U CCCC K K OOOO FFFFF FFFFF
> F U U C K K O O F F
> FFF U U C K-K O O FFF FFF
> F U U C K K O O F F
> F UuuU CCCC K K OOOO F F
>
Right listen up you wimpish M$ Windozes to chicken to reply, get you
tongue out from Bill Gates ar##e and use RISC OS.
RISC OS has several new versions since Windoze XP was launched, while
the excellent news portal Drobe <http://www.drobe.co.uk> says of new
plans for RISC OS "Are they whipping us into a furious state of zealotry
the likes the platform has not seen since 1991"
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Bruce Goatly
Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[garbage snipped]
Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
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kurttrail
> In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
> Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [garbage snipped]
>
> Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
Maybe you should be reported for making false claims. As I see nothing in
the Google USENET archives to support your claim that a "Greg
<gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote" anything in any such thread with "
Microsoft Users" in the Subject of the post.
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Kelly
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Noel Paton
the Google link shows the original post clear as day.
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Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Bruce Goatly wrote:
>
> > In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
> > Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > [garbage snipped]
> >
> > Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
>
> http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&as_scoring=r&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=%22Microsoft+Users%22&as_uauthors=gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&safe=images
>
>
> Maybe you should be reported for making false claims. As I see nothing in
> the Google USENET archives to support your claim that a "Greg
> <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote" anything in any such thread with "
> Microsoft Users" in the Subject of the post.
Well, it's there now. Perhaps you should remember that Google Groups isn't
up-to-the-minute.
And I never said that Greg made the posting.
Are we clear now?
Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Bruce Goatly wrote:
>
> > In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
> > Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > [garbage snipped]
> >
> > Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
>
> http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&as_scoring=r&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=%22Microsoft+Users%22&as_uauthors=gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&safe=images
>
>
> Maybe you should be reported for making false claims. As I see nothing in
> the Google USENET archives to support your claim that a "Greg
> <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote" anything in any such thread with "
> Microsoft Users" in the Subject of the post.
Well, it's there now. Perhaps you should remember that Google Groups isn't
up-to-the-minute.
Are we clear now?
Enkidu
<NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>Just Kurt going off on another.....
>the Google link shows the original post clear as day.
>
Google doesn't show the full headers. The From: and Reply to: headers
appear to have been faked.
Cheers,
Cliff
Jay
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Hey Cliff.
Hope you're behaving over in NZ.G
another
Just Kurt going off on another.....
the Google link shows the original post clear as day.
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Comin' up from me, Noel? Must be nothin' happenin in there right now..
kurttrail
Like, who cares? Not anyone who is a mature adult.
kurttrail
> In message <eOsy9oXW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce Goatly wrote:
>>
>>> In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
>>> Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> [garbage snipped]
>>>
>>> Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
>>
>>
http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&as_scoring=r&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=%22Microsoft+Users%22&as_uauthors=gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&safe=images
>>
>>
>> Maybe you should be reported for making false claims. As I see
>> nothing in the Google USENET archives to support your claim that a
>> "Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote" anything in any such thread
>> with " Microsoft Users" in the Subject of the post.
>
> Well, it's there now. Perhaps you should remember that Google Groups
> isn't up-to-the-minute.
>
> And I never said that Greg made the posting.
>
> Are we clear now?
Are you an adult, or do you always a whiny child that complains about people
that tell you to F*ck off?
Because you can consider this me telling you the same, child!
Greg
> In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
> Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [garbage snipped]
>
> Complaint sent to NTL, not Demon.
Cheers Bruce.
I have a fair suspicion who the idiot is and will pursue the matter with
NTL.
The the sad thing is that it did indeed orignate from a RISC OS user.
Apologies to all other groups.
--
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Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Are you an adult, or do you always a whiny child that complains about people
> that tell you to F*ck off?
The complaint wasn't about the abuse but the forgery.
And as Greg says, the sad thing is that the culprit was a RISC OS user.
Follow-ups set.
Greg
Bruce Goatly <s...@goatly.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <402cc0c34...@localhost.local>
> Greg <gr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [garbage snipped]
>
You sir are a twat, will the anally retentives butt out that means you.
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"Kelly" <ke...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Kurt, doesn't bother me. Was just the first time our paths crossed in XP
> and wanted to say hello. :o)
kurttrail
> In message <#Go#ZhcWEH...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Are you an adult, or do you always a whiny child that complains
>> about people that tell you to F*ck off?
>
> The complaint wasn't about the abuse but the forgery.
>
> And as Greg says, the sad thing is that the culprit was a RISC OS
> user.
>
> Follow-ups set.
Well maybe next time you'll try let us all know what the hell you are
complaining about to begin with?
Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
> Bruce Goatly wrote:
>
> > In message <#Go#ZhcWEH...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> > "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Are you an adult, or do you always a whiny child that complains
> >> about people that tell you to F*ck off?
> >
> > The complaint wasn't about the abuse but the forgery.
> >
> > And as Greg says, the sad thing is that the culprit was a RISC OS
> > user.
> >
> > Follow-ups set.
>
> Well maybe next time you'll try let us all know what the hell you are
> complaining about to begin with?
Oh, grow up.
kurttrail
> In message <uypWmVgW...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce Goatly wrote:
>>
>>> In message <#Go#ZhcWEH...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
>>> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you an adult, or do you always a whiny child that complains
>>>> about people that tell you to F*ck off?
>>>
>>> The complaint wasn't about the abuse but the forgery.
>>>
>>> And as Greg says, the sad thing is that the culprit was a RISC OS
>>> user.
>>>
>>> Follow-ups set.
>>
>> Well maybe next time you'll try let us all know what the hell you are
>> complaining about to begin with?
>
> Oh, grow up.
I guess that's a no. It would seem that you have the growing up to do,
announcing your tattletailing but keeping what you're tattling about a
secret. Why bother?
Noel Paton
newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are PRIVATE
groups, open to the public)
Druck
The fact that your precious .acorn. groups got crossposted is NOT down to
me, or anyone else in this thread - except one of your regular trolls
I take VERY great exception to being told how to post - especially by an
idiot who obviously has nothing better to do. If you want to blacklist me -
fine then do it and see if I notice, let alone care.
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Sendu Bala
> OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and the MS
> newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are PRIVATE
> groups, open to the public)
>
> Druck
> The fact that your precious .acorn. groups got crossposted is NOT down to
> me, or anyone else in this thread
I think the idea is that you all have the ability to /stop/
crossposting, so of course it /is/ down to you.
While it's perfectly possible for you to have chit-chat with your
friends over usenet (as you have done), it would also be courteous not
to post this chit-chat to groups where it is off-topic and the
readership are not interested.
You should certainly expect that the people on the other groups remind
you that you're crossposting and ask you to stop.
eg. http://www.my-newsgroups.com/SiteMap/netiquette.htm
or of course point 2 in http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm that you
helpfully include in your signature.
I haven't set followups or reduced the crossposting because I've no idea
which group you subscribe to - apologies to everyone else.
Noel Paton
thought-police attitudes]
The reason I didn't remove the cross-post in the first place was that the
subject matter was relevant to the group, since it appeared to originate
from it.
The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down, rather
than stand on my head. :)
Of the 4 groups in the crosspost, 3 are on the MS servers where top-posting
is accepted practice (note - NOT a rule!).
I do NOT appreciate thought-police emails to my addy - if you want to say
something, say it in public, where people have the opportunity to comment -
and have the courtesy to at least treat the recipient as a grown-up, rather
than a 3-year-old.
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imMethuzla
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Jess
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
[snip]
> The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down, rather
> than stand on my head. :)
So it's not because you are too lazy to trim and quote correctly then?
And it's definately not because you think what you say is more
important than what it is replying too so deserves to go first?
The reason I dislike top posting is BECAUSE I like to read from the top
down, not have to keep scrolling up and down to see what the hell is
being discussed.
At least you have a valid sig, so my prog automatically stripped the
trailing back to front posts.
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"Jess" <phant...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In message <OLf2SEjW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down,
rather
> > than stand on my head. :)
>
> So it's not because you are too lazy to trim and quote correctly then?
Nope - I trim when I fell it's necessary
>
> And it's definately not because you think what you say is more
> important than what it is replying too so deserves to go first?
Nope - I reply anywhere that makes sense
>
> The reason I dislike top posting is BECAUSE I like to read from the top
> down, not have to keep scrolling up and down to see what the hell is
> being discussed.
Ah - but you have to scroll down to the bottom first to be able to do that!
>
> At least you have a valid sig, so my prog automatically stripped the
> trailing back to front posts.
There was only one - without which my response wouldn't have made sense.
Sendu Bala
> [crosspost reset (you fibbed)
I meant that I hadn't reduced the crossposting /more/. Ideally I would
do no crossposting.
> , since SOME people may be interested in your thought-police
> attitudes]
On comp.sys.acorn, no, they really wouldn't be:
http://www.geocities.com/~banksp/Archives/Welcome.html
> The reason I didn't remove the cross-post in the first place was that the
> subject matter was relevant to the group, since it appeared to originate
> from it.
The subject matter of the posts was personal chit-chat between yourself
and others you knew - pure noise of no relevence to the topic or any of
the groups being posted to. No doubt that is fine on the group you
subscribe to, but readers of the other groups are requesting that you
don't do this. Please act considerately. If you won't take our advice,
take the advice contained in the guide to posting you include in your
own signature.
The remainder of your reply doesn't seem to have anything to do with my
post, so I'm not sure why you chose to include it, but FYI...
> The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down, rather
> than stand on my head. :)
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html , but more importantly in your
particular case, you actually put the quote beneath your signature.
This means that in well behaving clients (
http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/gnksa-evaluations.html ) the quote is
automatically stripped when replying, because signatures are
automatically stripped.
> I do NOT appreciate thought-police emails to my addy - if you want to say
> something, say it in public, where people have the opportunity to comment
Quoting from the first link I've given above, '... failure to check on
the appropriateness of your post generally results in you being
reminded, frequently politely, of your mistake - both publicly and
privately'. Again, this is not something you shouldn't have expected.
Indeed, these sorts of messages are best sent privately by email, since
their whole purpose is to reduce the amount of noise on the newsgroup.
Apologies again to everyone, especially if this gets sent back to
csa.misc, but I'll end my part in the thread here.
Testy
You boys please go outside and play.
Testy
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kurttrail
Because some goat decided we all needed to know that he is a snitch. Like
that was On-Topic for any of the groups included by him originally. Most
people in the msnews groups never even saw the original spoofed post, as MS
pulled it from its servers pretty quickly, and we saw the goat's post as an
original post.
So keep your goat in your own yard next time, and you and yours wouldn't get
our BSing!
Noel Paton
my response!]
Inline
"Sendu Bala" <se...@sendu.me.uk> wrote in message
news:2c4a45c4...@sendu.me.uk...
> On 24 Jun, Noel Paton wrote:
>
> > [crosspost reset (you fibbed)
>
> I meant that I hadn't reduced the crossposting /more/. Ideally I would
> do no crossposting.
Neither would I - but then I didn't start this thread, it was apparently one
of YOUR members who did that.
>
> > , since SOME people may be interested in your thought-police
> > attitudes]
>
> On comp.sys.acorn, no, they really wouldn't be:
> http://www.geocities.com/~banksp/Archives/Welcome.html
Then why are you and 'druck' so intereste di policing it?
>
>
> > The reason I didn't remove the cross-post in the first place was that
the
> > subject matter was relevant to the group, since it appeared to originate
> > from it.
>
> The subject matter of the posts was personal chit-chat between yourself
> and others you knew - pure noise of no relevence to the topic or any of
> the groups being posted to. No doubt that is fine on the group you
> subscribe to, but readers of the other groups are requesting that you
> don't do this. Please act considerately. If you won't take our advice,
> take the advice contained in the guide to posting you include in your
> own signature.
That was halfway down the thread - and yes, it was noise - and I am prepared
to apologise for that, but then again, I didn't start it, and didn't respond
beyond explaining my involvement.
>
>
> The remainder of your reply doesn't seem to have anything to do with my
> post, so I'm not sure why you chose to include it, but FYI...
I understood your post to be an attack on posting iin any manner except one
which YOU consider to be 'proper'. If that isn't true, then I apologise
>
> > The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down,
rather
> > than stand on my head. :)
>
> http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html , but more importantly in your
> particular case, you actually put the quote beneath your signature.
> This means that in well behaving clients (
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/gnksa-evaluations.html ) the quote is
> automatically stripped when replying, because signatures are
> automatically stripped.
So - what are you complaining about? - you don't have to read the postagain,
then, do you?
>
>
> > I do NOT appreciate thought-police emails to my addy - if you want to
say
> > something, say it in public, where people have the opportunity to
comment
>
> Quoting from the first link I've given above, '... failure to check on
> the appropriateness of your post generally results in you being
> reminded, frequently politely, of your mistake - both publicly and
> privately'. Again, this is not something you shouldn't have expected.
> Indeed, these sorts of messages are best sent privately by email, since
> their whole purpose is to reduce the amount of noise on the newsgroup.
And I'm supposed to find the FAQ's on every newsgroup that happens to be
crossposted to within the MS servers?? - I don't have that much time in the
day - if you do, you're lucky!
>
> Apologies again to everyone, especially if this gets sent back to
> csa.misc, but I'll end my part in the thread here.
And I also.
EOM
Noel Paton
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"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23HHPAmj...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> imMethuzla wrote:
>
> > Why are you people cross posting all this garbage?
> >
kurttrail
That's right. Crawl back into your hole. And next time keep your goat off
our grass, and you wouldn't have to whine like a little girl who isn't
getting her own way.
kurttrail
> I'm worried, Kurt - I actually agree with you!<g>
>
LOL! "I grow on people . . . . like a fungus." :)
John Cartmell
Noel Paton <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and the MS
> newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are PRIVATE
> groups, open to the public)
Neither druck nor the cross-poster are typical of the Acorn / RISC OS
people although druck does some damned good work for the platform. If you
don't get a good opinion of us and of RISC OS computers generally then
someone is feeding you false ideas. Sorry.
--
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kurttrail
> In article <OLf2SEjW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> Noel Paton <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> The reason I top-post is because I like to read from the top down,
>> rather than stand on my head. :)
>
> It's not our fault that you can't follow a conversation correctly!
Yes, but it is your own fault that it matters to you how somebody else
composes their replies on the USENET.
>
>> I do NOT appreciate thought-police emails to my addy - if you want
>> to say something, say it in public, where people have the
>> opportunity to comment
>
> Alright, if we're saying it in public, why don't you FOAD?
Set us an example, and show us how.
> We won't want cross-posting Microsoft lusers in here, especially ones
> ignorant of Usenet posting netiquette.
Then keep your tattletale goat off our grass next time.
>
>> - and have the courtesy to at least treat the recipient as a
>> grown-up, rather than a 3-year-old.
>
> If you want that, you'd better start acting like a grown-up.
He is. A grown man doesn't have to put up being condescended to by
cross-dressing Netiquette Fanatics, no matter how effeminately they whine.
Rick Merrill
kurttrail
> One Troll is milding annoying. TWO trolls is a waste of bandwidth!
Not to mention the waste of bandwidth, complaining about the waste of
bandwidth, and the waste of bandwidth that the complaining about the waste
of bandwidth posts usually engenders.
Netiquette Nazis can never win, because you are your own worst enemy.
kurttrail
> In article <Onqs7HiW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> Noel Paton <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and
>> the MS newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are
>> PRIVATE groups, open to the public)
>
> Neither druck nor the cross-poster are typical of the Acorn / RISC OS
> people although druck does some damned good work for the platform.
Well this is the second way off-topic thread in 8 days, involving your name
and magazine, that has wound up in a group generally about Windows XP.
These two threads are all we have to base our opinions on what is typical of
your squirrels.
> If
> you don't get a good opinion of us and of RISC OS computers generally
> then someone is feeding you false ideas. Sorry.
Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are under the
misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t about ya'll, ya'll's
misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS. [Is RISC another yet another
misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like Acorn can even natively run on our
IBM clones, so your squirrels really have no business whining, and playing
the NetNazis in our groups.
kurttrail
> Gotta love those misbegotten crossposts. :-(
>
Gotta love that you keep opening them up so deep into the thread! ;-)
Richard G. Harper
(This post contains 50% less crossposting than other, similar posts)
--
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23so9XNl...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
kurttrail
> Love me, love my crossposts. <G>
>
> (This post contains 50% less crossposting than other, similar posts)
>
I was being sarcastic.
(The cross-dressing fat has been added back, because then there is just more
to love)
Jess
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPs...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Inline
> "Jess" <phant...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:306542c...@itworkshop.invalid...
[snip]
> > The reason I dislike top posting is BECAUSE I like to read from the top
> > down, not have to keep scrolling up and down to see what the hell is
> > being discussed.
>
> Ah - but you have to scroll down to the bottom first to be able to do that!
Not if it is snipped correctly, as you did in your last posting.
That posting was really quick to follow, no surplus scrolling required.
Don't you agree that posting like that (ie rfc 1855 iirc) is more
efficient and lets you deal with news\mail far quicker?
That posting was a pretty good example of HOW to post. (Apart from one
incorrectly wrapped line, but hey, you are using outlook express.)
Have you tried quotefix? At work we have to use outlook :( and the addition
of quotefix makes it quite bareable. I understand to OE version even
makes it colour the different levels of quoting just like a proper
client.
John Cartmell
<donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
> squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are under
> the misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t about ya'll,
> ya'll's misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS. [Is RISC another
> yet another misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like Acorn can even
> natively run on our IBM clones, so your squirrels really have no
> business whining, and playing the NetNazis in our groups.
Polite apologies don't expect rude replies. Certainly not a spelling
lesson. The C in RISC stands for Chip or Computer and we tend not to spell
either of those words with a K. The architecture means that we can run
computers with very little power and no waste heat. It helps. The operating
system can run on top of Windows if you want to sacrifice the environment
saving architecture:
www.virtualacorn.co.uk
but it works best using Intel's favourite chip - ie ARM - rather than the
CISC architecture of the older (IBM clones) PCs.
and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you noticed, the
intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it manages to avoid too
many botanical references in web searches.
And stray goats? As I said druck does some brilliant work so we allow him
his foibles which includes telling people off when they're wrong. I realise
you don't have the recompense of the fruits of his labour - but you could
always buy a copy of Virtual Acorn...
..and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
elsewhere someone else will.
Can we now end the cross-posting and silliness?
Best wishes
Richard G. Harper
(Crosspost-Lite ... half the newsgroups, all the taste!)
;-)
--
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OBAHwvlW...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
kurttrail
> In article <e#vDkykWE...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, kurttrail
> <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
>> Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
>> squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are
>> under the misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t
>> about ya'll, ya'll's misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS.
>> [Is RISC another yet another misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like
>> Acorn can even natively run on our IBM clones, so your squirrels
>> really have no business whining, and playing the NetNazis in our
>> groups.
>
> Polite apologies don't expect rude replies.
Feigned civlility does.
> Certainly not a spelling
> lesson. The C in RISC stands for Chip or Computer and we tend not to
> spell either of those words with a K.
Obviouly, you don't have a sense of humor about it.
> The architecture means that we
> can run computers with very little power and no waste heat. It helps.
> The operating system can run on top of Windows if you want to
> sacrifice the environment saving architecture:
> www.virtualacorn.co.uk
Yes, I was aware of that before I posted my first reply to you. But if you
read what I actually wrote I implied that Acorn is worthless to our computer
on its own.
> but it works best using Intel's favourite chip - ie ARM - rather than
> the CISC architecture of the older (IBM clones) PCs.
>
> and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you
> noticed, the intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it
> manages to avoid too many botanical references in web searches.
Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?
>
> And stray goats?
Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.
Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the original
profane post from its msnews servers.
> As I said druck does some brilliant work so we allow
> him his foibles which includes telling people off when they're wrong.
> I realise you don't have the recompense of the fruits of his labour -
> but you could always buy a copy of Virtual Acorn...
So that's what this recent Qercus/Acorn assult on our group is about?
Marketing for Virtual Acorn?
>
> ..and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
> country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
> elsewhere someone else will.
>
> Can we now end the cross-posting and silliness?
As soon as ya'll crawl back under your CSAM rock, and leave us be.
Tarquin Mills
> OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and the MS
> newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are PRIVATE
> groups, open to the public)
"Noel Paton" wrote in a different message:
> Of the 4 groups in the crosspost, 3 are on the MS servers where top-posting
> is accepted practice (note - NOT a rule!).
microsoft.public is part of the public network known as Usenet, not some
Microsoft owned space. The question of M$ cancelling posts has been
brought up, perhaps this explains the censorship of alt.destroy.microsoft,
I am looking into this.
--
Tarquin Mills
Norwich Sinclair and Clones Show (ORSAM 2004)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/orsam/
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Sinclair/petition.html (Bring Back YS)
Alex Hunsley
> A message to *all* Microsoft users from comp.sys.acorn (CSA)
>
> FFFFF U U CCCC K K OOOO FFFFF FFFFF
> F U U C K K O O F F
> FFF U U C K-K O O FFF FFF
> F U U C K K O O F F
> F UuuU CCCC K K OOOO F F
>
Grow up.
Abuse report sent to ntl.
kurttrail
> ... yeah, I think I got that; thus the reply.
>
> (Crosspost-Lite ... half the newsgroups, all the taste!)
>
> ;-)
But half the market.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with crossposting, nearly all Newreaders
provide the ability to crosspost.
Plus it's a really chickensh*t move to cut people out of the middle of a
conversation and talk behind their backs.
kurttrail
others to post as you wish, but bottom-posting is nothing more than a
archaic tradition born out of a non-GUI USENET past.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
Mike M
> microsoft.public is part of the public network known as Usenet, not some
> Microsoft owned space. The question of M$ cancelling posts has been
> brought up, perhaps this explains the censorship of alt.destroy.microsoft,
> I am looking into this.
Incorrect. The microsoft.* hierarchy originates from the Microsoft servers
(msnews.microsoft.com) and then picked up by Usenet at large, those same
servers also accept messages posted to those newsgroups via other news
servers. The same is true of many other hierarchies which originate from
servers maintained by the organisation or company concerned, for example
Corel's newsgroups (cnews.corel.com).
You can look into whatever you want but that won't change matters and
Microsoft will continue to cancel unwanted spam on their newsgroups. Whether
other news servers choose to honour those cancels is up to them to decide and
implement as necessary.
--
Mike Maltby
Tarquin Mills
> ..and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
> country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
> elsewhere someone else will.
talk on the phone you offer me a free copy of Qercus, which I paid
for even though you did not want me to. So lets see what you really
think of M$
<http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=%22John+Cartmell%22+Microsoft+drug&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=4c95bb0ef0john%40cartmell.demon.co.uk&rnum=1>
Quote from John Cartmell:
> your freebies from Microsoft are no more than the freebies given by
> drug dealers or paedophiles.
Which I did not agree with at the time and still do not, but when John
was challanged he said in this posting
John Cartmell wrote:
> Russ Tarbox wrote:
> > That's an obscene analogy.
>
> It's an absolutely straightforward one. You said MS's software and
> practices were better than they were. It sounded positive. I merely forced
> you to appreciate that 'better' need not mean 'good'.
>
> > For starters, the laws seem to be made up as things go along.
>
> The laws of monopolies in the UK have been steady for many years. The one
> major exception to all the rules and way oou of line of the law is
> Microsoft.
>
> > Comparing a software company's practices with that of a paedophile is
> > ridiculous.
>
> In some cases both give out freebies in order to convert people and, once
> they have control, they close the trap. That analogy applies equally to
> paedophiles and Microsoft. I hadn't implied that both prey on children (but
> they do) but I'm pleased to see that you find the analogy distasteful -
> because much that Microsoft do is found to be distasteful by very many
> people.
>
> Of course the analogy breaks down. But the distaste is appropriate.
Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.
Point of information: that's Dr Goatly.
> Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the original
> profane post from its msnews servers.
Without the benefit of psychic powers it's hard to see how I was supposed to
know this.
Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating the
people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr Mills should
learn, sharpish.
--
bruce <*> (Change user name to 'bruce' to avoid the spam trap.)
"They hit us with guns, bazookas, tear gas, tanks, APVs, helicopters,
rockets... and I'm pretty sure at least one of them used really harsh
language." - Marcus Alexander, "Jeremiah"
Tarquin Mills
Bruce Goatly wrote:
> Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating the
> people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr Mills
> should learn, sharpish.
a proper computer when they find out I am not using one running a M$ OS)
just look at
Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/
No anti-Windows users stuff on it, or any anti Bill Gates stuff, how many
other anti Microsoft websites can claim that. It is my belief that
piracy and and anti-Windows-user/Bill-Gates views get more headlines than
my campaigning with the Office of Fair Trading wrongly, I have been proved
right. Just look a the media attention on Drobe that the Microdigital press
release archive got. All those who have been expressing anti-M$ should
answer why they have not contacted the OFT or local equivalent and banded
together to create a mass anti-Wintel movement that can change things like
FSF.
kurttrail
> In message <OBbzVXqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups &
>> CSAM.
>
> Point of information: that's Dr Goatly.
Proctologist? That you spent more time partying in college than most,
and have the piece of paper to prove it, isn't all that impressive.
You breathe, sh*t, piss, eat, and put your pants on one leg at a time,
so just because you and/or your parents, and/or others spent thousands
of dollars for a piece of paper for you doesn't really mean anything,
because in the end you are nothing but worm-bait, like the rest of us
mere humans that didn't waste thousands of dollars on a piece of paper.
>
>> Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the
>> original profane post from its msnews servers.
>
> Without the benefit of psychic powers it's hard to see how I was
> supposed to know this.
By keeping your snitching activities to yourself next time. Why do you
feel the necessity to publicly announce your tattletale escapades to
begin with. Children & KGB informants are at least smart enough to try
to hide the fact of their tattletale acts.
>
> Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating
> the people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr
> Mills should learn, sharpish.
Why hate at all? Or aren't you evolved enough to disagree with others
without getting emotional about it?
Bruce Goatly
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
[nothing of significance]
*plonk*, troll.
Mike M
security or even Hotmail? In your feeble pathetic mind perhaps but not in
that of anyone who uses their brain (do you possess one?). In this case you
are showing that you are the one without a clue.
--
Mike Maltby
pv <NOS...@segfault.co.uk> wrote:
> HA! That's a joke. Microsoft have no clue when it comes to computer
> security or anti-spam measures. Considering that their crappy software is
> responsible for 99% of known viruses and security issues and that most
> spam originates from Hotmail, I'd say that was a rather ironic comment -
> or tongue in cheek!
kurttrail
> In message <#0Er$hrWEH...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net>
> wrote:
>
> [nothing of significance]
>
> *plonk*, troll.
LOL! The natural reaction of the feeble-minded when confronted by their
own inadequacies.
kurttrail
> In article <uAbdq7qW...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
> Mike M <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
>> You can look into whatever you want but that won't change matters and
>> Microsoft will continue to cancel unwanted spam on their newsgroups.
>> Whether other news servers choose to honour those cancels is up to
>> them to decide and implement as necessary.
>
> HA! That's a joke. Microsoft have no clue when it comes to computer
> security or anti-spam measures.
That may be true, but at least you have to respect them for attempting
to put a lid on spam in the msnews groups, in spite of their
cluelessness.
> Considering that their crappy
> software is responsible for 99% of known viruses and security issues
> and that most spam originates from Hotmail, I'd say that was a rather
> ironic comment - or tongue in cheek!
And what does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
Jone Doe
on posts I've been following, and two, WE OUTNUMBER YOU! Plonk that!
"pv" <NOS...@segfault.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4cc49bd7...@segfault.co.uk...
> In article <eimfTtqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> > Well when you become the USENET dictator, then you will be able to force
> > others to post as you wish, but bottom-posting is nothing more than a
> > archaic tradition born out of a non-GUI USENET past.
>
> Just because you're a lamer who uses Outlook Express, it's no excuse to
> incorrectly assume that top posting is correct!
>
> However, judging by your previous postings, I would assume that you're too
> ignorant to know better and too arrogant to bow out of an argument you
have
> no chance of winning!
>
> <plonk>
>
> --
> Paul __\\|//__ Life,
> (` o-o ') the Universe
> ---- www.segfault.co.uk ------ooO-(_)-Ooo------ & Everything ------
>
> Posted using a RISC OS computer - 100% immune to all email viruses.
> (email address is genuine, to fool junkmailers)
>
> To strive, to seek, to find and not to yield.
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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Tarquin Mills
"kurttrail" wrote:
> Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.
> Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the
> original profane post from its msnews servers.
on the Usenet part of the Internet.
--
Tarquin Mills
David Candy
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"Tarquin Mills" <specc...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Microsoft cancelled the messages off their news servers, the timing of which
may have affected their distribution to other new servers out there.
...danny
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Gordon
news:eaelk%23rWE...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> 2 things. One, I prefer the top posting because I want to see replies
first
> on posts I've been following,
So you read a book from the bottom up?
Jone Doe
"Gordon" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Mike M
and its administration. There is no requirement that a third party server to
act on cancels it receives from other servers including Microsoft. Likewise
what Microsoft does or does not do with its server is a matter for Microsoft
and Microsoft alone.
--
Mike Maltby
Gordon
> "Gordon" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%23QH9qJs...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > "Jone Doe" <fa...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> > news:eaelk%23rWE...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > 2 things. One, I prefer the top posting because I want to see replies
> > first
> > > on posts I've been following,
> >
> > So you read a book from the bottom up?
> >
> >
> books is books and posts is posts. What does one have to do with the
other?
>
they are both READING information.
kurttrail
> In message <OBbzVXqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" wrote:
>> Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups &
>> CSAM. Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS
>> pulled the original profane post from its msnews servers.
> I challenge Microsoft to admit they cancelled those messages and
> others
> on the Usenet part of the Internet.
They cancel posts all the time. And not always for a good cause.
Whether other servers that redistribute the msnews hierarchy follow MS
cancels is up to them.
The majority of regular posters on msnews groups read through MS's
servers because generally they are more reliable than ISP's nntp
redistribution of them.
kurttrail
> In article <eimfTtqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
>> Well when you become the USENET dictator, then you will be able to
>> force others to post as you wish, but bottom-posting is nothing more
>> than a archaic tradition born out of a non-GUI USENET past.
>
> Just because you're a lamer who uses Outlook Express, it's no excuse
> to incorrectly assume that top posting is correct!
Where did I assume that either top or bottom posting was "correct?"
>
> However, judging by your previous postings, I would assume that
> you're too ignorant to know better and too arrogant to bow out of an
> argument you have no chance of winning!
>
> <plonk>
And that would be why your the one that's running away from me? LOL!
It's is YOUR arrogance thinking only your way is what is "correct" based
on some archaic tradition, that would be the argument that stands "no
chance of winning!"
I normally bottom post my replies, but I am not arrogant enough to
believe that my way is more correct than anybody elses, except for me.
You NetNazis deserve all the ridicule that you engender for advocating
your Netiquette fascism.
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee!"
kurttrail
> Where did you find these idiots. I've told you before about bringing
> things home that you find. Now, young man, take them back and leave
> them where you found them.
>
LOL! Can I help it that I attract a bunch of NUTS? ;-)
Jess
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
> Well when you become the USENET dictator, then you will be able to force
> others to post as you wish, but bottom-posting is nothing more than a
> archaic tradition born out of a non-GUI USENET past.
Rubbish. Anyway interleaved posting and snipping is what we want. Non
trimmed bottom posting is as almost as bad as top posting (worse if you
happen to remember what the message is in reply to)
Top posting may be fine for those who are used to computers that are
slow and awkward, but some of us want to leave those at work and use
something efficient at home.
--
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mailto:nos...@itworkshop.uklinux.net Hotmail is spamtrap, don't email it
RISC OS 4.39 kinetic 128+128+2MB 20GB 586-133 I-3 ADSL
http://www.itworkshop-online.co.uk http://www.b1-11.net
John Cartmell
Tarquin Mills <ac...@nojunkmail.com> wrote:
> This a nice way to treat someone who has defended you, last time we
> talk on the phone you offer me a free copy of Qercus, which I paid
> for even though you did not want me to. So lets see what you really
> think of M$
Had I spammed that to Microsoft groups I would have been a plonker. It's
like a footballer celebrating a goal in front of the rival team's
supporters & taunting them. Go celebrate in front of your own supporters
and I'll defend you and celebrate your wins. Taunt the other lot and I'll
reach for that blunt instrument! ;-)
Sorry folks!
[follow ups set to one advocacy ng - it's not relevant elsewhere]
--
John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527
Qercus magazine & FD Games www.finnybank.com www.acornuser.com
Qercus - a fusion of Acorn Publisher & Acorn User magazines
Jess
"David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
> Do you read a page, then cut it and paste to top of next page? Then
> read it again and the current page.
Bear in mind we have proper news readers that colour the quoted text
differently (like pegasus mail does).
Reading a properly trimmed and interleaved message is far more
efficient than having to scroll down to find out WTF is being referred
to.
kurttrail
> In article <ea8b93c44...@localhost.local>,
> Tarquin Mills <ac...@nojunkmail.com> wrote:
>> This a nice way to treat someone who has defended you, last time we
>> talk on the phone you offer me a free copy of Qercus, which I paid
>> for even though you did not want me to. So lets see what you really
>> think of M$
>
> Had I spammed that to Microsoft groups I would have been a plonker.
Yes, you are too busy spamming us about some virtual nut.
> It's like a footballer celebrating a goal in front of the rival team's
> supporters & taunting them. Go celebrate in front of your own
> supporters and I'll defend you and celebrate your wins. Taunt the
> other lot and I'll reach for that blunt instrument! ;-)
Who the hell do you think you are? Is the threat violence a tool you
often use to keep your supporters under your thumb?
>
> Sorry folks!
>
> [follow ups set to one advocacy ng - it's not relevant elsewhere]
Too Bad about what you consider to relevant ng's for this thread. And
why the HELL are you now exporting it to yet another group? Haven't you
risky nuts exported enough BS, spam, and lunacy for one day?
Jess
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
[snip]
> > and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you
> > noticed, the intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it
> > manages to avoid too many botanical references in web searches.
>
> Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?
Because it predated the World Wide Web
kurttrail
> In message <eimfTtqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Well when you become the USENET dictator, then you will be able to
>> force others to post as you wish, but bottom-posting is nothing more
>> than a archaic tradition born out of a non-GUI USENET past.
>
> Rubbish.
Said the man who has no logical argument.
> Anyway interleaved posting and snipping is what we want.
We who? Personally, I couldn't give a sh*t if you replied through your
a**hole!
> Non
> trimmed bottom posting is as almost as bad as top posting (worse if
> you happen to remember what the message is in reply to)
In your opinion. It's is a matter of personal likes and dislikes how
one writes their replies. Just like some guys like jockeys, and others
like boxers.
Or do you go around arguing over what is the proper form of undershorts
too?!
> Top posting may be fine for those who are used to computers that are
> slow and awkward, but some of us want to leave those at work and use
> something efficient at home.
LOL! Bottom posting may be fine for people that are natural
conformists, but those of us who are individualists prefer to blaze our
own trails, rather than slog around in the well-beaten paths of you
conformists, locked into your archaic traditions.
kurttrail
> In message <OBbzVXqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> wrote:
>> John Cartmell wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you
>>> noticed, the intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it
>>> manages to avoid too many botanical references in web searches.
>>
>> Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?
>
> Because it predated the World Wide Web
But it doesn't predate the real Acorns, does it? People doing research
on Acorn before the WWW didn't get confused by the difference? I guess
people didn't search for info predating the WWW, huh?
kurttrail
> In message <utxkvLsW...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> "David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>> Do you read a page, then cut it and paste to top of next page? Then
>> read it again and the current page.
>
> Bear in mind we have proper news readers that colour the quoted text
> differently (like pegasus mail does).
So does my newsreader OE with Quotefix. SO?!
>
> Reading a properly trimmed and interleaved message is far more
> efficient than having to scroll down to find out WTF is being referred
> to.
Goody for you that you are of that opinion. Other people's mileage may
vary from yours! Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go build
yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society that would
be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
Jess
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
> Jess wrote:
>
> > In message <utxkvLsW...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > "David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
> >> Do you read a page, then cut it and paste to top of next page? Then
> >> read it again and the current page.
> >
> > Bear in mind we have proper news readers that colour the quoted text
> > differently (like pegasus mail does).
>
> So does my newsreader OE with Quotefix. SO?!
So it's easier to follow .
> > Reading a properly trimmed and interleaved message is far more
> > efficient than having to scroll down to find out WTF is being referred
> > to.
>
> Goody for you that you are of that opinion. Other people's mileage may
> vary from yours! Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go build
> yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society that would
> be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
So I'm being accused of being a conformist by a microsoft user? LOL
I use an Acorn, listen to Gary Numan and vote green. Really conformist.
Jess
[snip]
> > Non trimmed bottom posting is as almost as bad as top posting (worse if
> > you happen to remember what the message is in reply to)
>
> In your opinion. It's is a matter of personal likes and dislikes how
> one writes their replies. Just like some guys like jockeys, and others
> like boxers.
OK, explain how your nicely formatted reply was harder to read and
follow than the previous top postings.
Jess
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
> Jess wrote:
> > In message <OBbzVXqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> >> Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?
> >
> > Because it predated the World Wide Web
>
> But it doesn't predate the real Acorns, does it? People doing research
> on Acorn before the WWW didn't get confused by the difference? I guess
> people didn't search for info predating the WWW, huh?
They wouldn't have used Google would they?
kurttrail
> In message <#tDwIatW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net>
> wrote:
>> Jess wrote:
>>> In message <OBbzVXqW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
>>> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org>
> [snip]
>>>> Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?
>>>
>>> Because it predated the World Wide Web
>>
>> But it doesn't predate the real Acorns, does it? People doing
>> research on Acorn before the WWW didn't get confused by the
>> difference? I guess people didn't search for info predating the
>> WWW, huh?
>
> They wouldn't have used Google would they?
Nope, a quaint institution called a Library. I guess humans were just
smarter, before the technological tools for searching came into being.
alan.calder
kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
[Snip]
>Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go build
> yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society that would
> be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
What is with this nazi obsession of yours? You keep using the term in
various ways - bit of a cracked record. Have you nothing better to do than
be rude to people on usenet? Can you not just let it rest now that we know
that you know everything about correct posting etc?
Cheers
Alan
--
Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
kurttrail
> In message <#HrlCdtW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net>
> wrote:
>> Jess wrote:
>>
>>> In message <utxkvLsW...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
>>> "David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
>>>> Do you read a page, then cut it and paste to top of next page? Then
>>>> read it again and the current page.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind we have proper news readers that colour the quoted text
>>> differently (like pegasus mail does).
>>
>> So does my newsreader OE with Quotefix. SO?!
>
> So it's easier to follow .
Not when you just read the previous post, and have no need to see it
again.
>
>>> Reading a properly trimmed and interleaved message is far more
>>> efficient than having to scroll down to find out WTF is being
>>> referred to.
>>
>> Goody for you that you are of that opinion. Other people's mileage
>> may vary from yours! Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go
>> build yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society
>> that would be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
>
> So I'm being accused of being a conformist by a microsoft user? LOL
If the shoe fits! I don't identify myself with the technological tools
I use, but by the content of my character.
>
> I use an Acorn, listen to Gary Numan and vote green. Really
> conformist.
When it comes to USENET traditions like bottom posting and snipping, you
definitely are actively advocating comformity. You are only fooling
yourself, if you believe otherwise.
kurttrail
> In message <eoKW1WtW...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net>
> wrote:
>> Jess wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> Non trimmed bottom posting is as almost as bad as top posting
>>> (worse if you happen to remember what the message is in reply to)
>>
>> In your opinion. It's is a matter of personal likes and dislikes how
>> one writes their replies. Just like some guys like jockeys, and
>> others like boxers.
>
> OK, explain how your nicely formatted reply was harder to read and
> follow than the previous top postings.
As I explained earlier in this nonsense, I bottom post most of the time.
I just don't advocate that other people should follow my example. I
believe that people should do what they consider is best for themselves
within reason, not what I consider is best for me.
kurttrail
> In article <#HrlCdtW...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
>> Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go build
>> yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society that
>> would be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
>
> What is with this nazi obsession of yours?
Nazi Germany is the prime example of a society gone nuts over
conformity.
> You keep using the term in
> various ways - bit of a cracked record.
Is someone forcing you to listen to me?
> Have you nothing better to
> do than be rude to people on usenet?
At the moment no. I'm at work. Better to be rude to a bunch of
conforming nuts with reason, than to my fellow co-workers for no reason.
> Can you not just let it rest
> now that we know that you know everything about correct posting etc?
I am the one that is of the opinion that there is no such thing as
"correct posting." It's a matter of personal preference, PERIOD!
Some people prefer nuts. Others don't. Is one's preference for nuts
more "correct" than another's disliking of nuts?
Tarquin Mills
Liam Gretton wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Tarquin Mills wrote:
>
> > The question of M$ cancelling posts has been
> > brought up, perhaps this explains the censorship of
> > alt.destroy.microsoft, I am looking into this.
>
> Don't you think you're skating on rather thin ice, Tarquin? Seeing as
> you've shown yourself to be low enough to forge a news posting in the most
> childish manner possible.
>
> I hope your ISP throws the book at you. Usenet will be better off without
> you.
I got something wrong and have apologised.
When people are bringing the music industry to an end by piracy and
other things so bad I do not want to mention them in polite company. It
is unlikely NTL will act and possibly loss my business. I my eXPerience
when NTL act the do so quickly. I have seen very nasty trolls such as
Peter Parsnip recently but nobody has carried on like this about
contacting their ISP. Your calls for my banning are a waste of time.
Looking down the posting of some of the people attacking me reveals
their Usenet records are not spotless. Greg Harris is free to complain
to NTL if he wants, but what it has to do with Liam who is not even a
member of RUNG I do not know.
--
Tarquin Mills
Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/
richard.watson
"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
> Jess wrote:
>
> > In message <utxkvLsW...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > "David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you read a page, then cut it and paste to top of next page? Then
> >> read it again and the current page.
> >
> > Bear in mind we have proper news readers that colour the quoted text
> > differently (like pegasus mail does).
>
> So does my newsreader OE with Quotefix. SO?!
>
> >
> > Reading a properly trimmed and interleaved message is far more
> > efficient than having to scroll down to find out WTF is being referred
> > to.
>
> Goody for you that you are of that opinion. Other people's mileage may
> vary from yours! Nazi germany was the model of efficiency. Go build
> yourself a time machine and go back to a time and a society that would
> be more compatible with your advocacy of conformity!
>
What a prat!
*plonk*
--
Mark Rowan
kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
> alan.calder wrote:
> > You keep using the term in various ways - bit of a cracked record.
> Is someone forcing you to listen to me?
Not at all - you've already successfully made it into several killfiles
through your excessive ranting about Nazis.
> > Can you not just let it rest now that we know that you know
> > everything about correct posting etc?
> I am the one that is of the opinion that there is no such thing as
> "correct posting." It's a matter of personal preference, PERIOD!
I don't interleave my postings simply as 'a matter of personal
preference' because it makes me feel happier or a better person or
something.
Interleaved postings on a proper reader are much easier to read than
top-posted ones - as I'm sure you've discovered. It would indeed save me
a few seconds to carelessly hit reply and top-post a comment with a
thousand quoted articles beneath my sig.
But I snip and interleave my comments as a matter of common courtesy to
those who are reading my posts so they don't have to put up with
unreadable text or reams of irrelevant quotes.
If everyone had the same courtesy for those reading their posts then I
think you'd find they'd be interleaving as well. Not as a matter of
conforming though - just as we don't call those who drive on the same
side of the road 'conformists'.
I'm sure this is all lost on you though... have a nice day at work.
--
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James
"Mark Rowan" <arti...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:4cc4b6b3b...@hotpop.com...
Why don't you take a high dive into a pool filled with rusty metals shards!
kurttrail
Another person that rather use their killfile, than argue reasonably.
Mark Rowan
James <ja...@nutscrape.net> wrote:
[Snip]
> Why don't you take a high dive into a pool filled with rusty metals
> shards!
Don't have a pool.
<plonk>
--
Dealing with failure is easy: Work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: You've solved the wrong problem. Work hard to improve.
kurttrail
> In article <##Dk69tWE...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> kurttrail <donte...@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote:
>> alan.calder wrote:
>>> You keep using the term in various ways - bit of a cracked record.
>
>> Is someone forcing you to listen to me?
>
> Not at all - you've already successfully made it into several
> killfiles through your excessive ranting about Nazis.
Like I care about the morons that get their rocks off with their virtual
killfiles!
>
>>> Can you not just let it rest now that we know that you know
>>> everything about correct posting etc?
>
>> I am the one that is of the opinion that there is no such thing as
>> "correct posting." It's a matter of personal preference, PERIOD!
>
> I don't interleave my postings simply as 'a matter of personal
> preference' because it makes me feel happier or a better person or
> something.
Good for you. Other peoples' happiness may vary from yours.
>
> Interleaved postings on a proper reader are much easier to read than
> top-posted ones - as I'm sure you've discovered.
It depends on the length of the post I'm replying to.
> It would indeed save
> me a few seconds to carelessly hit reply and top-post a comment with a
> thousand quoted articles beneath my sig.
And some people prefer saving those couple of seconds. It is their
time.
>
> But I snip and interleave my comments as a matter of common courtesy
> to those who are reading my posts so they don't have to put up with
> unreadable text or reams of irrelevant quotes.
Again, good for you. People have every right to think it is common
courtesy to trim the entire post, and just let their post stand on its
own.
>
> If everyone had the same courtesy for those reading their posts then I
> think you'd find they'd be interleaving as well.
IOW, if everyone conformed to your ideal of what "common courtesy" is,
then they'd just be conformists like you.
> Not as a matter of
> conforming though - just as we don't call those who drive on the same
> side of the road 'conformists'.
Ah! Road rules are made by soveriegn gov'ts. It is not as a matter of
"common courtesy."
>
> I'm sure this is all lost on you though... have a nice day at work.
No. It is lost on you, because there is no soveriegn body to create and
enforce arbitrary rules on the USENET, unlike driving on the same side
of the road in the country you live in.