Saving Links:

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, Windows
Firewall, Avast antivirus, Spywareblaster, and run Firefox
for the Internet and all the programs work well together
and are up to date.

However, I don’t have a dedicated backup; I have all my
data stored on CD-r and DVD-RW disks via Nero.

In any case, I recently upgraded to a Dell XPS 8500 with
Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 and 12 GB DDR3, SDRAM. The
system is still in the boxes until I work out a few issues
beforehand.

What I’d like to know is, can someone please tell me how
I can export my links from the 8200 and import them to
the 8500? Is there an easy way to do it? I’ve tried
exporting them to a CD but I don’t seem to be doing it right?

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Thanks,
Robert

[Paul]

magin...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, Windows
> Firewall, Avast antivirus, Spywareblaster, and run Firefox
> for the Internet and all the programs work well together
> and are up to date.
>

> However, I don�t have a dedicated backup; I have all my

> data stored on CD-r and DVD-RW disks via Nero.
>
> In any case, I recently upgraded to a Dell XPS 8500 with
> Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 and 12 GB DDR3, SDRAM. The
> system is still in the boxes until I work out a few issues
> beforehand.
>

> What I�d like to know is, can someone please tell me how

> I can export my links from the 8200 and import them to

> the 8500? Is there an easy way to do it? I�ve tried
> exporting them to a CD but I don�t seem to be doing it right?
>
> Thoughts/Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>

On Firefox, you can use the Bookmark Manager "Export" and "Import"
functions. That is how you can prepare for transport of "links".

*******

They make a tool for transferring from one computer to another.
There is the "File and Settings Transfer Wizard" (FAST) as
well as Windows Easy Transfer. Each OS has improved versions
of this thing. Follow the instructions, while viewing this
on the new 8500 computer. Open this link, on the 8500 browser
(as maybe the OS has Silverlight in it already).

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-easy-transfer

This is how I would do it.

1) You will be running both computers at some point. I hope
each computer has its own LCD monitor, so you can observe both
screens.

2) On the 8500, read the manual. Follow any instructions about
burning recovery media. It may take as many as five DVD discs
to back up the contents of the 8500 for emergencies. Make sure
you have enough DVD discs, to capture all the factory setup of
the new 8500.

3) Connect both computers to your home router. Make sure the
networking is working on both of them, by testing with a web
browser, that you can reach the network. Come back for help,
if your networking setup is broken.

4) Use WET to transfer files from one computer to the other.

5) If you don't like the results of this attempt to fetch all
your files, you can follow the instructions in the Dell 8500
user manual, to "return to factory condition" and reload the
OS and blow away the partitions on the 8500. That's the easiest
way to go back to the beginning. That would remove whatever WET
did, if you don't like it. You won't need the five DVDs for this,
as all the info should be on the hard drive. The five DVDs are
only to be used, if you get in "serious trouble". Like a broken
hard drive, is when you need the DVDs for your 8500. Do not neglect
making the DVDs. Store the DVDs in a cool dry place, for emergencies.

Personally, I hate automation like that (WET). I would do my
migration manually. Using features such as Firefox "Export"
of bookmarks, then move the file to the new machine.

Even Internet Explorer has an "Import/Export" function, in the
File menu. Just like Firefox, you can move the links with
that function. Export, store exported thing on a USB flash
stick, move to new computer, do an Import using the same
style of menu option. Look in File and see if it is there.
I would "Export Favorites", as none of my cookies store valuable
info. I used to have one cookie, with an automatic password in it,
for a specific site that no longer allowed new registrations, and
I used to preserve that cookie like it was gold. But even that one
is no longer valid, so no cookies need to be saved. I regularly
delete all cookies, meaning, there is nothing of value in them
but tracking information. (The tracking information, only
helps the web site make money.)

http://service.sympatico.ca/img_gallery/IE7_Backing_Up_Restoring_Favorites_04_EN.jpg

So Microsoft gives you options to do it "big time" or
"small time". As is your preference. I like "small time"
and selective movement of data, because I don't really
like dragging all the crap over from the old computer.
Since I keep all my docs in one structure, simply zipping
that up and moving it over, is enough for me. Moving
my email, is messy, but still do-able.
YMMV (your mileage may vary).

If you cannot even comprehend how to start, just use WET.
See how it goes. That's why they made this page. It's for you.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-easy-transfer

Don't forget to burn the DVDs on the 8500! Read the manual!
Modern computers will even prompt you, within the first couple
of days, to make the DVDs. You can follow the prompts at that time.
So it's not like you won't be given opportunities to make the DVDs.
Just make sure you have enough DVD blanks available. When I got
my new computer, I had to run out to Staples, and get a spindle
of blank discs for it (Verbatim brand). Blank media is pretty
crappy at the stores now, in that brand name goods are getting
harder to find, for optical media. Staples has a lot of
"store brand crap" now.

When I got my computer, I was prompted twice. The first
prompt was from the Acer software. It said to burn four DVDs.
The next prompt, was a Microsoft prompt. It said to burn
one DVD. Make sure you've done both groups.

Paul

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

What do you mean "links" ?
Are they the IE favourites ?
Desktop LNK files ?

Please be more specific.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[magin...@yahoo.com]

>
>
>
> What do you mean "links" ?
>
> Are they the IE favourites ?
>
> Desktop LNK files ?
>
>
>
> Please be more specific.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dave
>
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
>
> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

I meant favorite links, sorry.

Thanks,
Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Right off the top, do I need to have both computers set up at the same time? I only have (1) Ethernet connection> I also bought this to transfer the data.

http://www.starsurplus.com/viewitem.lasso?i=2020-OTB

I have no idea what manual your talking about or the DVD's, etc..you've completely lost me. It's my fault because I wasn't clear in my message. I want to know how to save my favorite links.

Thanks,
Robert

[Paul]

When you opened the 8500 box, there should be a manual such
as "getting started". It will mention burning the DVDs that
will hold a copy of your OS, for re-installation. The purpose
of those DVDs, is in case the hard drive crashes, and you lose
your only copy of the OS. Don't forget about this step, because
three years from now, you might need to change the hard drive,
and then you'll need those 8500-flavored DVDs.

*******

The device you've bought, is a USB to SATA converter. You connect
a hard drive to it. So you must have a hard drive of some sort,
to use on the end of the adapter. The adapter doesn't do anything
useful, all by itself. It needs some hard drive.

You could connect a portable hard drive to the old computer,
then connect the drive later to the new computer. And use that
to transfer information.

Let's review the WET options.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/transferring-files-and-settings-frequently-asked-questions

"Which transfer method should I use?

There are several choices.

1) Easy Transfer Cable

[A USB to USB solution, that fits between computers]

2) Network

What you'll need: A network with both computers connected to it
and the ability to access the same network folders or locations.

[Typically, a user might have an Ethernet switch or a Router box,
that both the old and new computers could be connected to. The
computers then appear on the same LAN segment, and are easy to
find. You appear to be telling me, you use neither a router nor
a switch box.]

3) USB flash drive or external hard disk

What you'll need: A USB flash drive
or an external hard disk compatible with both computers.

[And you've bought hardware, to allow connecting an external
hard drive. You will be doing (3).]

Since the adapter you've purchased, comes with a power supply,
that will allow you to use a 3.5" hard drive if you want.

*******

Now, imagine you don't have a spare drive. You could
try the following.

1) Leave hard drive inside the 8200.
2) Using Disk Management, create a new partition on the hard drive.
There should be sufficient space to hold the WET file or files.
3) Download and run WET on the 8200. Allow it to move the
resulting files to the new partition on the 8200.

4) Now, shut down the 8200. Remove all power. Using a screwdriver,
remove the 3.5" hard drive in the 8200. Connect the 8200 hard
drive to the adapter kit.
5) Plug in the 8500. Don't turn it on yet. Plug in the power supply of the
adapter + 8200 hard drive. Plug the adapter USB cable, into the 8500.
Don't shake the hard drive from now on, as it is spinning. Start the 8500.
6) Run WET on the 8500. When it asks for a source file, point it to the
new partition on the 8200 hard drive, which you can now see in
Disk Management.

If you do have a spare hard drive, that allows you the freedom to leave
the 8200 fully assembled, and not have to take the 8200 apart at all. But,
if you don't have a spare hard drive, the drive inside the 8200 can do
as a transfer medium.

And my assumption here, is that WET has the options you want, in
terms of information transfer. Bringing your bookmarks across
plus things like your email database. That would be the minimum I'd want
to bring across. You can bring across a lot more, such as tell WET to
transfer My Documents. And that will take a while to execute. Both
on the source computer, and on the destination computer.

*******

If you look at the tutorial here, you can see WET has plenty of
options for you. Useful options.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11470-windows-easy-transfer-transfer-computers.html

See this picture.

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/12441d1243606520-windows-easy-transfer-transfer-computers-windows-easy-transfer-step-1-.png

"You can transfer:

* User accounts * E-mail
* Documents * Internet Favorites <---
* Music * Videos
* Pictures * And more
"

The one with the "arrow" I put there, is for your "links".
I hope Microsoft is smart enough, to do the "links" for both
Internet Explorer and Firefox. Otherwise, you'll need to
use the Export method.

And you can see this line on the web page...

"8. Choose where to save your Transfer file and what to name it,
then click Save."

At that point, you can use the disk connected to your USB to SATA
adapter, or, you can use the new partition created on the 8200 disk.
It all depends on what spare disks you've got, or whether you
lack a spare disk or not.

*******

If you had a router or switch, or had four Ethernet connectors
on the back of your broadband box, you could use option (2) here,
the network option. You see, WET has plenty of options, and
it's up to you to analyse your available resources. If all you've
got is the USB to SATA adapter, then (3) is how you'll be doing it.
And if you don't have a spare hard drive, you can do the first
half of WET, storing the files on the 8200 hard drive. Then pull
the 8200 hard drive out of the computer, connect it to the adapter,
and finally connect the adapter to the 8500.

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/12442d1243606520-windows-easy-transfer-transfer-computers-windows-easy-transfer-step-2-choose-destination-.png

This is an example of my little home router. I could connect
the 8200 and the 8500 to one of these, and do the transfer
over the network cables. You can connect up to four computers
(to ports 1,2,3,4) on this router. (I've since replaced this
one, but it's still a pretty impressive looking box. All those
LEDs.)

http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/BEFSR41.jpg

This is the back of my Netgear GS605 switch. I could put
the 8200 and 8500 Ethernet cables, into the two left-most
holes. You'd look around, to see if you have any boxes
like that.

http://www.comms-express.com/assets/images/gallery/large/GS6054_large.jpg

When I bought the switch, it cost me as much for four
new Ethernet cables, as it cost me to buy the switch.
The pricing was absurd. That's the downside of wanting
to connect computers in a hurry, and not being able
to get a good price on the cables.

HTH,
Paul

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

>
>> What do you mean "links" ?
>>
>> Are they the IE favourites ?
>>
>> Desktop LNK files ?
>>
>> Please be more specific.
>>

>

> I meant favorite links, sorry.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert

Don't use a CDROM. Use a Flash Drive or external hard disk.

Assuming your profile name iks Robert on both computers...
Copy
c:\documents and settings\robert\favorites

to
c:\users\robert\favorites

Using thre Flash Drive or ext. hard disk as an intermediate trasfer medium.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

When I checked the box there was no manual as such that I saw, only a disk and some connection cables. I assume the disk is my Master disk? I expected allot more like when I got my 8200.

Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

>
>
> Don't use a CDROM. Use a Flash Drive or external hard disk.
>
>
>
> Assuming your profile name iks Robert on both computers...
>
> Copy
>
> c:\documents and settings\robert\favorites
>
>
> to
>
> c:\users\robert\favorites
>
>
>
> Using thre Flash Drive or ext. hard disk as an intermediate trasfer medium.
>
> --
>
> Dave
>
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
>
> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

So I need to buy a flash drive to do this? I haven't
set up anything on the new computer or even know where
or how I set up my profile on this one.

Once I move the favorites to the flash drive I won't
know if it worked until I hook up the 8500, correct?

After I do this am I suppose to remove the HD from the
8200 and attach it to the USB to SATA converter to transfer
data?

I didn't know this process was going to be so involved.

btw what does WET mean?

Thanks,
Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I plan to use the USB to SATA convertor cable to
transfer data from my 8200 to the 8500. However,
it seems to transfer my favorite links is more
work than I thought it was going to be.

I do plan on buying a dedicated backup but I
wanted to get the computer up and running first.

Thanks,
Robert

[dadiOH]

magin...@yahoo.com wrote:

> So I need to buy a flash drive to do this? I haven't
> set up anything on the new computer or even know where
> or how I set up my profile on this one.
>
> Once I move the favorites to the flash drive I won't
> know if it worked until I hook up the 8500, correct?
>
> After I do this am I suppose to remove the HD from the
> 8200 and attach it to the USB to SATA converter to transfer
> data?
>
> I didn't know this process was going to be so involved.

It isn't. In fact, it is dead simple...all you need to do is what I told
you originally.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

>
>> Don't use a CDROM. Use a Flash Drive or external hard disk.
>>
>> Assuming your profile name iks Robert on both computers...
>>
>> Copy
>>
>> c:\documents and settings\robert\favorites
>>
>> to
>>
>> c:\users\robert\favorites
>>
>> Using thre Flash Drive or ext. hard disk as an intermediate trasfer
>> medium.
>>

> So I need to buy a flash drive to do this? I haven't
> set up anything on the new computer or even know where
> or how I set up my profile on this one.
>
> Once I move the favorites to the flash drive I won't
> know if it worked until I hook up the 8500, correct?
>
> After I do this am I suppose to remove the HD from the
> 8200 and attach it to the USB to SATA converter to transfer
> data?
>
> I didn't know this process was going to be so involved.
>
> btw what does WET mean?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert

Using some form of RandomRead/RandomWrite media is best. Are you really
going to burn a CDROM which holds 700MB with .1MB or less and possibly end
up with ReadOnly links?

I don't know what WET is or even its context.

You do have to initially setup the Win8 PC. You'll have to copmplete it
such that you have a profile to copy your data to.

Alternatively you COULD have both computers up and running on a Windows
network and share data. However,m based upon the threads we have been in, I
think that is too complicated and will add layers of complexity to sort out.
I am tring to give you the easiest and effective way to transfer data based
upon our discussions to-date.

[Paul]

WET is Windows Easy Transfer.

It is the successor to FAST, a program that did the same thing.

And end users are supposed to be able to do this for themselves.
Comes complete with video tutorial.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-easy-transfer

I gather it's supposed to make the job easy. That's why they
put "Easy" in the name :-)

Paul

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Paul" <nos...@needed.com>

Thanx for the accronym definition and explanation.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Hello David,

I see I'm in need of your assistance again,

Ok, lets start over with this because I'm completely
confused at this point and I think I've confused you
as well.

Paul in his effort, gave me way too much information
and was over my head. That was allot of work and I don't
have any manuals that I saw, only a disc.

Also it's Windows7 not Windows 8, I wanted as much RAM
as possible and they only offered 8GB with Windows 8
even though it says you can customize it to 12GB but
when your actually ordering you can't. So to get the
12GB of DDR3, SDRAAM I had to accept Windows 7.


I don't have any plan as such since I have no
idea of how to do any of this. I only mentioned
the CD-R's and DVD-RW's as my only source of backups
at present but I don't plan on using them with
the 8500.

I know I have to do some setup but do I have to make
it a mirror image of the 8200 for all of this to work?

At this point I'm in your hands. Just tell me what to do.

Thanks,
Robert

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

Robert, now you lost me as a I don't know what to tell you to do. Therefore
we need to start from scratch.

The first step is to have the old WinXP and the new Win7 computers up and
running with the new Win7 computer configured for your use. When I write
"configured" that means that you are passed the initial setup screens where
you tell it the name of a user (or users) and all the things that are setup
when you fisrt turn on a brand new computter.

Then we can discuss the use of an intermediate RandomRead/RandomWrite media
such as a Flash drive or external hard disk.

BTW: While Classic Shell is needed MORE for Win8 it staill can be used with
Win7 albeit since Win7 does NOT have the "Metro User Interface" it is not as
much of a requirement and thus we can leave it out.

[Paul]

Do you have a spare hard drive or not ?

Please make a list of the resources in hand.

1) Dell 8200 computer with LCD monitor.
2) Dell 8500 computer with LCD monitor
3) No broadband modem, router, switch, or other networking equipment ???
Do you use dialup networking ? What components do you have for
LAN networking ?
4) The USB to SATA/IDE adapter, complete with power supply.
5) Do you have a spare hard drive, to use with (4) ?

List anything else that comes to mind.

Knowing what gear you have, may help David.

Paul

[magin...@yahoo.com]

To answer your question, all I want to do is to get the 8500 up and running with all my favorite links and data from My Documents.

So from what you say you want me to get everything set up on the 8500 as far as I can go? However I only have (1) Ethernet cable, am I suppose to have both computers connected? Or can I leave the 8200 connected and bring up the 8500 until configured?

Thanks,
Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I thought I had included all these details.

Resources include

1. Dell 8200 with XP and 15 inch Dell Monitor
2. Dell 8500 with Windows 7 with 21.5 inch monitor
3. I have an ethernet connection using a Verizon Modem
and APC surge protector
4. USB to SATA/IDE Adaptor to be used to extract data from my 8200 HD


Robert

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

I wrote...

"The first step is to have the old WinXP and the new Win7 computers up and
running with the new Win7 computer configured for your use."

and I previously wrote...

"Alternatively you COULD have both computers up and running on a Windows

network and share data. However based upon the threads we have been in, I

think that is too complicated and will add layers of complexity to sort out. "

Therefore I do NOT care if they are conected to the Internet or Ethernet.

I also stated...

"Then we can discuss the use of an intermediate RandomRead/RandomWrite media
such as a Flash drive or external hard disk."

so....
I want you at thet First Step !

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

PS:

I see you also have...

"USB to SATA/IDE Adaptor to be used to extract data from my 8200 HD"

That was NOT declared before so answering Paul with this "fact" is important.

[Paul]

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: <magin...@yahoo.com>
>
> PS:
>
> I see you also have...
> "USB to SATA/IDE Adaptor to be used to extract data from my 8200 HD"
>
> That was NOT declared before so answering Paul with this "fact" is important.
>

According to Robert's answer, there is no spare disk
to use with the USB to SATA/IDE adapter.

The disk drive out of the 8200 could be used, but that
means some screwdriver work. WET to 8200 drive, connect
8200 drive to USB to SATA adapter, then use the 8200 drive
externally on the 8500. That would be using "materials in hand".

We don't know the model number of the Verizon Modem either.

Paul

[dadiOH]

It really is very simple, nothing more than copy and paste or drag & drop.

You need both computers functioning, they need not be on at the same time.
Neither need to be connected to the internet.

You need some sort of portable storage media such as (any one)...

1. "thumb" drive
2. flash card + way of reading it on both computers
3. blank CD/DVD disk plus way of writing to it on your XP computer
_____________________

Once you have those things, here is what you do for "Favorites"...

1. Sit down at your XP computer and use Windows explorer - Win key + E - to
browse to the favorites folder at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users

2. Copy that folder to the portable media

3. Browse to C:\Documents and Settings\your use name\Favorites

4. Copy the *contents* of that folder to the folder on your portable media

5. If you have other users on your computer repeat #3 and #4 for each user

What you are doing is consolidating all the data from the various "favorite"
folders into one...the one for all users.
.____________________

I see you added "My Documents" to your desired stuff to save. You would do
the same things as you did for "Favorites" but you should be more discerning
upon what you copy as numerous programs - programs that you don't have on
your in 7 machine - dump all sorts of stuff there too. Nevertheless, I
would copy the entire "My Documents" folder to the portable media and sort
out the keepers later. The folder you want is at
C:\Documents and Settings\your user name
___________________

You now have what you want on the portable media. Sit down at the Win7
machine and...

1. Use Windows Explorer to browse to the "Favorites" folder. I don't have
Win 7 so can't tell you precisely where it is; it may be structured like the
XP machine or maybe - like Win8 - under "users\your user name".

2. You now have a few choices...

a) replace the Win7 "Favorites" folder with the folder on your portable
media

b) replace the *contents* of the Win7 "Favorites" folder with *contents*
of the folder on your portable media

c) make a new folder in the Win7 "Favorites" folder named, perhaps,
"WinXP Favorites" and copy the contents of the folder on your portable media
into it

3. Keep in mind that "favorites" are shortcuts and can be deleted with
impunity; i.e., without messing up the OS

Follow the same procedure for the copied "My Documents" folder but be more
selective in what you copy to the Win7 machine; you won't need all the stuff
that various programs have tossed into it.
______________

It takes far less time to do the above than it does to explain it.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Paul" <nos...@needed.com>

If he has USB to SATA/IDE interface, I think that is the *BEST* option and
just hang the XP hard disk off the Win7 PC.

[Ben Myers]

<magin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:33a23b95-27f4-40b9...@googlegroups.com...

>I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, Windows
>Firewall, Avast antivirus, Spywareblaster, and run Firefox
>for the Internet and all the programs work well together
>and are up to date.
>However, I don’t have a dedicated backup; I have all my

>data stored on CD-R and DVD-RW disks via Nero.

>In any case, I recently upgraded to a Dell XPS 8500 with
>Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 and 12 GB DDR3,
>SDRAM. The system is still in the boxes until I work out

>a few issues beforehand like disabling McAfee.

>What I’d like to know is, can someone please tell me how

>I can export my links from the 8200 to the 8500 and how
>to import them? Is there an easy way to do it? I’ve tried
>exporting them to a CD but I don’t seem to be doing it right.
>Thoughts/Suggestions?
>Thanks,
>Robert

As mentioned by other posters, favorites are stored in
"C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Favorites", where "Username" is
your login user name. If you never created one, it's probably "Administrator".
The entire folder typically fits on a floppy disk, if you have one and both computers
are compatible. Other options are to temporarily install or connect the hard
drive from the new computer to the old one and copy the folder and whatever
else you might need or just burn it to a CD.

Ben

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I purchased the device at your advice in my last posting to transfer data.

I will now setup the 8500 at your advice then we'll see what we have.

Robert

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

> On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:24 AM UTC-7, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: <magin...@yahoo.com>
>>
>> PS:
>>
>> I see you also have...
>>
>> "USB to SATA/IDE Adaptor to be used to extract data from my 8200 HD"
>>
>> That was NOT declared before so answering Paul with this "fact" is
>> important.
>>
>

> I purchased the device at your advice in my last posting to transfer data.
>
> I will now setup the 8500 at your advice then we'll see what we have.
>
> Robert

Great !

I look forward to the time when that is done and if you create an account on
the Win7 PC such as "Robert" you have a folder such as...

c:\users\robert\

Then we will proceed to the next step.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Ok, I’ve taken the 8500 out of the box and set
it up with all the connections but when I turned
it on the screen is dead, nothing. Now, I’m leary
of turning it off and damaging the HD because
I can’t see anything. I checked my connections
again and they seem ok.

There’s 4 slots on the front of the 8500 with the
following initials next to each one.

SM/,xD

CF/MD

SD/RS - there’s a small indicator flashing next
to this one.

MS/Pro/Duo

The only thing I see out of norm is the APC surge
protector has a red light for 'building wiring fault'.
I tried resetting it but does nothing. I then tried
removing the plugs for the 8200 thinking it might
be overloaded, still nothing. I don’t dare disconnect
the 8500 plugs as its still turned on.

So what do I do now?

Thoughts/suggestions?

Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

P.s. The modem is a Verizon model GT704-WGB

R

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

The GT704-WGB is an Actiontec ADSL Modem+Router.

I don't understand the overabundance of information which includes Memory
Card slots.

You connect a monitor to the computer. How you connect the monitor to the
computer will depend upon the video interface; DVI, VGA or HDMI.
You connect a keyboard to a USB port
You connect a mouse to a USB port

You power up the PC and you should see the Dell Splash Screen as the
computer performs Power On Self Test (POST).

Double check, triple check the connections. Look at the monitor and see if
it has a LED which shows "signal". Often no-signal will be one colour while
receiving a signal will be another colour.

[Paul]

magin...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> P.s. The modem is a Verizon model GT704-WGB
>
> R
>

See page 12.

GT704-WGB

http://support.actiontec.com/doc_files/GT704-WG-B_Vz_User_Manual_30.15.0.pdf

There is a yellow connector block on the back, labeled "1 2 3 4".
Those are your *LAN* ports. Using Ethernet cables, plug the 8200 into
the yellow section. Then plug the 8500 into one of the yellow holes.
You don't even need to turn off the 8500 to do it - you can plug in
the Ethernet port "hot" because it is transformer isolated.

The four yellow holes allow up to four computers to be wired
to your Verizon modem/router at the same time! No need for
hubs or switches or the like. All you need, is a cable.

So you could do machine to machine transfer, via the yellow
network connectors on your Verizon modem/router.

Check the 8500 box, to see if it came with an Ethernet cable
or not.

That means, in the Windows Easy Transfer, you have another
means of transferring files, and no screwdriver will be needed :-)
A simple network to network transfer is all that is needed.

*******

There are some reviews here, of "out-of-the-box" experience. There
seem to be a few display issues with XPS 8500. It's the nature of
complicated things, to raise a stink.

http://reviews.dell.com/2341n/xps-8500/dell-xps-8500-reviews/reviews.htm?page=2&sort=rating&dir=asc

Check the supplied cables. See if there is VGA, HDMI, or DVI cables,
whether the monitor has connectors like those. You can try connecting
one, and one only, cable from the computer to the monitor. But if
the VGA port didn't work, you could try DVI or HDMI.

*******

OK, moving on, I found manuals.

(Manuals for 8500)

http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/product/xps-8500

Quick start guide.

ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_xps_desktop/xps-8500_Setup%20Guide2_en-us.pdf

Looking at the quick start guide, the I/O plate area has a VGA
and a HDMI connector. Those are motherboard video options. If
your machine includes an optional video card, look for video card
connectors on one of the four card slots, below the I/O plate.

If a video card is populated in one of the four slots, it takes
priority on video. You connect your monitor cable to the video card.

If, on the other hand, you didn't buy an optional video card, and
are using motherboard video for some reason, then you'd use the VGA
or HDMI connectors in the I/O plate area.

According to the Quick Start, there is very little to connect.
Just ignore the multiple languages printed on that "card",
look at the English, and follow the instructions.

So my suspicion is, you have multiple video card sources,
and you should switch to the other interface.

I'm sending this now, so you can give it a try.

Paul

[Paul]

Paul wrote:
> magin...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> P.s. The modem is a Verizon model GT704-WGB
>>
>> R
>>

The back of your computer, could look like this.

If if does look like this, connect the monitor to the video card
(lower set of connectors in the picture).

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2084/xps8500back.jpg

*******

And this is the chipset on your new system. The
Dell system specs say it is H77. This is a block
diagram of what it supports. The most impressive
part, is it can support up to four USB3 ports.

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/images/product/h77-blockdiagram.jpg

Paul

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Ok, it was a stupid mistake(forgot to power the monitor on)the buttons were so damn small I didn't even notice them on the side and Dell did not provide any manuals and none to tell me what each of the buttons mean? I didn't attach my speakers yet or my ergonomic keyboard since I'm still using them on the 8200.

At any rate I got it going and have configured the 8500 as far as I'm able. I updated all the Microsoft updates and activated McAfee so that I could uninstall it asap and switch to the Microsoft firewall and Avast/Spywareblaster.

In passing, I also noticed that I can't name a Guest Account like I can on XP, it just stays as Guest which is the account I use to surf the Internet and use my Administrator Account just for downloading/installation.

So am now set for the next set of instructions.

Thanks,
Robert

[dadiOH]

David H. Lipman wrote:

> Look at the monitor and
> see if it has a LED which shows "signal". Often no-signal will be
> one colour while receiving a signal will be another colour.

It also might have an on/off button. OP is now 3-F (free to flounder
forever)

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

1. Open the chassis of the XP PC.

2. Remove the hard disk from the chassis.

3. Connect the power supply cable of the SATA/IDE to USB kit to the hard
disk. You should feel it power-up.

4. Examine the pinouts of the hard disk and note the "key".

5. Connect the SATA/IDE to USB interface adapter to the hard disk

6. Connect the USB interface of the SATA/IDE to USB adapter to the Win8 PC

7. Allow the Win8 PC to Plug 'n Play.

The external hard disk will be assigned a drive letter. the internal is
"C:" the DVD is mostlikely "D:" so the external drive should be "E:"
(depending on how the Win8 PC treats the memory card slots).

We are going to assume you have a "Robert" account on both the WinX PC and
the Win8 PC.

8. COPY all the files and folders in...
E:\Documents and Settings\Robert\My Documents\

to
c:\Users\Robert\Documents

C:\Documents and Settings\Robert

9. COPY all the files and folders in...
E:\Documents and Settings\Robert\Favorites

to
c:\Users\Robert\Favorites

10. COPY all the files and folders in...
E:\Documents and Settings\Robert\Desktop

to
c:\Users\Robert\Desktop

--------------------------------------

After that is done, we can dicuss any other neeeds.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <33a23b95-27f4-40b9...@googlegroups.com>,

magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, Windows

[]

>In any case, I recently upgraded to a Dell XPS 8500 with
>Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 and 12 GB DDR3,

[]

>What I’d like to know is, can someone please tell me how
>I can export my links from the 8200 to the 8500 and how

[]
We need to know what you mean by "links".

If you mean web addresses you use frequently, then that's a function of
your browser: as others have explained, they're called Favorites for
Internet Explorer. In Firefox they're called Bookmarks, and you need to
look at ways to pass them from one system to another (or how to "sync"
two or more machines if you choose to accept the risks of doing it that
way), though Firefox can also use IE-type Favorites (US spelling with no
u). Other browsers may have other names for them.

If you mean desktop shortcuts, or the things in the Start Program menu,
then although there are ways (including third-party utilities), the most
reliable way - though it seems a lot of work - is to reinstall all the
softwares.

If you mean something else, please tell us.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."

[magin...@yahoo.com]

What is the key? I use Commander not Robert, so would it be commander to commander, correct? Also, I have Windows 7 Professional not Windows 8. I will wait for your answer regarding the key and naming before I pull the HD.


Thanks,
Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

the key is the slot on the card correct?

R

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I noticed that the 8500 has multiple USB ports
and some are 2.0 and others are 3.0 and one is
a 2.0 with power share. Does it make a difference
which one I use?

Thanks,
Robert

[Barry Schwarz]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:31:08 -0700 (PDT), magin...@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>
>I noticed that the 8500 has multiple USB ports
>and some are 2.0 and others are 3.0 and one is
>a 2.0 with power share. Does it make a difference
>which one I use?

If it didn't, it would mean they labeled the ports differently just to
confuse you.

--
Remove del for email

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

No it does nopt make a difference and yes, the "notch" is the key ensuring
Pin 1 on the cable matches Pin 1 on the interface.

As fore Win8 or Win7. its'a moot point. Foir this discussion we are having
the different OS version does NOT make a difference in what steps you take
or the folders you encounter.

If you created an account called "Commmader" then substitute Commander in
the instructions where I stated Robert.

Thus...
c:\Users\Robert\Documents

becomes...
c:\Users\Commander\Documents

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and
attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and
then connected the it to the 8500 via
USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or
anything. I waited several minutes, tried
rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this
several times.

To make matters worst my 8200 now will not
boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light
on the front it has a flashing yellow light.

Great, now I'm worst off than I was before.
I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able
to get around with no links or anything.

So now what am I to do?

Thoughts, Suggestions?
Robert

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <ffa21b53-6556-4594...@googlegroups.com>,

magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>To answer your question, all I want to do is to get the 8500 up and
>running with all my favorite links and data from My Documents.

By "favorite links" I presume you mean web addresses that you commonly
use in your browser (Internet Explorer, or any other browser that can
use IE favo(u)rites).

By "data from My Documents" I assume you mean the contents of the "My
Documents" folder.

If I'm right in the above, then others have already explained how to do
it.
[]

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

Remember the situation with the monitor ?
Your words...

"Ok, it was a stupid mistake(forgot to power the monitor on)the buttons were

so damn small I didn't even notice them on the side and Dell".

Double check an d triple checxk the check again.

The drive has to receive power from power supply included in the SATA/IDE to
USB adapter kit. In step #3, I indicated you would "feel" the drive
power-up.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <e3340705-47ed-46b1...@googlegroups.com>,

magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>Ok, I’ve taken the 8500 out of the box and set
>it up with all the connections but when I turned
>it on the screen is dead, nothing. Now, I’m leary
>of turning it off and damaging the HD because
>I can’t see anything. I checked my connections
>again and they seem ok.

(I've seen your later post where you explained that it was a hidden
power switch that was the problem.)

>
>There’s 4 slots on the front of the 8500 with the
>following initials next to each one.

Those are memory card slots. Nice to have, not important to the current
discussions though (unless you use a memory card to carry data over).
>
>SM/,xD

SM is SmartMedia - a very old type! xD is used by some Fuji cameras.
>
>CF/MD

Compact Flash/minidisc - less used now, though some very high end
cameras use them.

>
>SD/RS - there’s a small indicator flashing next
>to this one.

SD is the commonest memory card shape. I don't recognise RS. The light
is puzzling - are you sure it is definitely associated with the card
slot?
>
>MS/Pro/Duo

Memory Stick and its variants - used by Sony cameras.

>
>The only thing I see out of norm is the APC surge
>protector has a red light for 'building wiring fault'.

I don't know the APC device; for now, if devices are plugged in through
it and are working, I guess you can carry on using it, though I'd
suggest you try to find the fault before too long. Probably a tedious
exercise though, involving going round the house unplugging things (or
turning off circuits at the main fusebox or distribution unit) until you
find the fault.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <f67ddb0d-69cb-48f4...@googlegroups.com>,

For keyboard and mouse, no (other than that if you use up the 3.0 ones
with those they won't be available for things that can benefit from
them). For your IDE to USB adapter, _probably_ not either, as I suspect
that won't be USB 3 (if it is, it'll just run slower if you plug it into
a 2). I'm not sure what the power share means - it could be one of two
things.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <6KKdnde0P_vpzQTM...@giganews.com>, David H.

Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> writes:
>From: <magin...@yahoo.com>
>
>>
>> Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and
>> attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and
>> then connected the it to the 8500 via
>> USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or
>> anything. I waited several minutes, tried
>> rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this
>> several times.

See below.

>>
>> To make matters worst my 8200 now will not
>> boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light
>> on the front it has a flashing yellow light.

Assuming you have the hard disc still connected, it won't boot without
it (though I'd expect to see _some_ screens when you turn it on).

>>
>> Great, now I'm worst off than I was before.
>> I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able
>> to get around with no links or anything.
>>
>> So now what am I to do?
>>
>> Thoughts, Suggestions?
>> Robert
>>
>
>
>Remember the situation with the monitor ?
>Your words...
>"Ok, it was a stupid mistake(forgot to power the monitor on)the buttons
>were so damn small I didn't even notice them on the side and Dell".
>
>Double check an d triple checxk the check again.
>
>The drive has to receive power from power supply included in the
>SATA/IDE to USB adapter kit. In step #3, I indicated you would "feel"
>the drive power-up.
>

The drive will have to have _two_ cables going to it, assuming we're
talking a desktop drive here: the data cable (the SATA/IDE one [which is
it by the way? [E]IDE is a 40 or 80 way ribbon cable, SATA is a much
smaller one), and the power cable (probably four big pins, certainly if
it's an EIDE drive). The power cable will come from the power supply
included in the SATA/IDE to USB kit, as DHL (!) says above; note that,
of course, that this power supply will also have to have a power lead
plugged into it (it probably has a light on it to show it's receiving
power). As DHL says, you will feel vibrations from the drive when power
is applied to it (and probably hear it running if you put your ear to
it).

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I'm willing to admit when I've made mistakes
but as I said I tried this several times and
I took my time.

I hooked up the 8200 HD just as you describe with
the power source and SATA/IDE adaptor and checked,
and rechecked it.

I will give it another shot tomorrow and see if I
can get this going.

Actually I'm more concerned that the 8200 has 'died'.
Even if I messed up the connections on the 8500 the
8200 should still function and it doesn't.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks,
Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

There was no vibration or anything when power
was applied to the 8200 HD with the SATA/IDE
adator and power cord connected.

As I said, I tried this several times with no
result but am going to try again.

Robert

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

Removing a hard disk does not kill a computer.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I tried again with the same results.

The only thing I didn't do was use the
driver disc that came with the adaptor.
It says that Win ME/200/XP/2003 (no
need to install driver) so I assume I
didn't need to.

However to cover all the bases I inserted
the disc and this is what it says:

DVD-RW Drive D: Driver

Mixed content options

Play using media player

Import pictures and video's using
Windows

Import pictures and Video's using
photo gallery

View Pictures using Photo Gallery

then it says General Options

Open folder to view files using
Windows Explorer


None of these seem appropriate.

According to the instructions; once
connected the new hardware 'USB' Mass
Storage Device will be installed
automatically, and Driver icon is
created at 'my Computer'


I assume this means a pop-up on the
desktop or am I incorrect?

In any case the adapter doesn't seem
to be functioning. The red light is on
showing that it's getting power but aside
from that I see no activity.

As an alternative, I did try exporting
my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
all this happened. So if I can't get this
to work maybe you can tell me how I can
import the links from the disc?

Otherwise I'll just have to start all over.

thoughts/suggestions?

Robert

[Paul]

We know you forgot a wire.

It could be this one. I can't find a manual, anywhere.

http://www.esaitech.com/images/detailed/13/Coolmax_USB_2.0_To_SATA_-_IDE_Converter_Cable_Adapter_(ADA-2020-OTB).jpg

This would be the connections for 2.5" or 3.5" SATA drives.

(7 pin)
Comp_USB ------- Adapter ----- sata_data_cable --------- disk_data_port_7_pin

AC_Power ---- Molex_1x4 --- Molex_to_Sata_Power --- disk_power_port_15_pin

This would be the setup for a 3.5" IDE. 3.5" IDE uses
a 40 pin connector, on 0.1" centers. Power is via
a 1x4 Molex.

(40 pin)
Comp_USB---------Adapter ----------------------------- disk_40_pin_ide

AC_Power ---- Molex_1x4 --------------------------- disk_1x4_Molex_power

If connecting a laptop 2.5" IDE drive, the laptop 44 pin
connector carries both power and data. Since the 2020-OTB
adapter lacks a power input, and no additional adapters
are shown, the 2020-OTB kit expects to power the 2.5" drive,
using the USB bus power. All that the kit allows doing
in this case, is this. And this is not guaranteed to work
for all 2.5" hard drives, as some draw too much power.

(44 pin)
Comp_USB---------Adapter ----------------------------- disk_44_pin_ide_2.5"

If you're using a 3.5" hard drive, check the power cabling.

HTH,
Paul

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <6d369f92-62b2-47ad...@googlegroups.com>,

magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>I tried again with the same results.
>
>The only thing I didn't do was use the
>driver disc that came with the adaptor.
>It says that Win ME/200/XP/2003 (no
>need to install driver) so I assume I
>didn't need to.

It's a 7 or 8 system you're using it on isn't it - are you sure it works
at all on 7 or 8?

>
>However to cover all the bases I inserted
>the disc and this is what it says:
>
>DVD-RW Drive D: Driver
>
>Mixed content options
>
>Play using media player
>
>Import pictures and video's using
>Windows
>
>Import pictures and Video's using
>photo gallery
>
>View Pictures using Photo Gallery
>
>then it says General Options
>
>Open folder to view files using
>Windows Explorer
>
>
>None of these seem appropriate.

That sounds like the standard popup when you insert any CD.

When you plug in the USB to SATA/IDE adaptor, do you get _any_
indication that the PC has detected it - ding-dong sound, "new hardware
detected" popup, other? If so, does it then ask for a driver?

>
>According to the instructions; once
>connected the new hardware 'USB' Mass
>Storage Device will be installed
>automatically, and Driver icon is
>created at 'my Computer'
>

(I assume that's a misprint - or miskey on your part - for "drive
icon".)

>
>I assume this means a pop-up on the
>desktop or am I incorrect?

In XP, you would be incorrect: it means if you open the "My Computer"
icon (by default at top left of your screen), you'll see an extra drive.
I'm not sure of the situation on 7/8, though I think 7 at least uses
something similar.

>
>In any case the adapter doesn't seem
>to be functioning. The red light is on
>showing that it's getting power but aside
>from that I see no activity.
>
>As an alternative, I did try exporting
>my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
>all this happened. So if I can't get this
>to work maybe you can tell me how I can
>import the links from the disc?

(I'll let the others tackle this bit as I don't know IE, certainly not
the 7/8 versions. Probably worth saying how you exported them -
importing may be a similar exercise.)
[]

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A clean, neat and orderly desk is a sign of a sick mind. (G6JPG's mind is
clearly extremely healthy ...)

[Paul]

The USB Mass Storage (Class) driver has been built into Windows
for some time.

Usually, when they make a product like that, the driver CD is for
older OSes. Like perhaps Win98. If it's WinXP/Vista/W7/W8, then
the USB driver is already present.

For example, look for a "usbstor.inf" file. That is part of Windows.

Paul

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

> I tried again with the same results.
>
> The only thing I didn't do was use the
> driver disc that came with the adaptor.
> It says that Win ME/200/XP/2003 (no
> need to install driver) so I assume I
> didn't need to.

< snip >

There are no drivers needed. Please do get off track.

Re-examine you work.

When you apply power to the removed hard disk using the power supply
provided in the adapter kit you will feel the drive power up. In fact if
you move the drive you will feel the gyroscopic effect du to the rotational
energy of the platters.

The Win7 system will NOT Plug 'n Play the drive unless this drive has power.
No drivers are needed to Plug 'n Play the drive in Win7.

The external drive will power up even though you havenment connected the IDE
interface to it yet.

Please stick to the program. Verify the drive is getting power as stated in
Step #3.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>

>
> There are no drivers needed. Please do get off track.
>

Correction:
Please do _NOT_ get off track.

[Ben Myers]

<magin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7c58417e-d370-41d4...@googlegroups.com...

> Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and then connected the it to the 8500 via USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or anything. I waited several minutes, tried rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this several times.

> To make matters worst my 8200 now will not boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light on the front it has a flashing yellow light.

> Great, now I'm worst off than I was before. I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able to get around with no links or anything.
> So now what am I to do?
> Thoughts, Suggestions?

> Robert.

Connect the drive and open "My Computer" or its equivalent in your operating system and see if the drive
is there.

Ben

[dadiOH]

wrote in message
news:7c58417e-d370-41d4...@googlegroups.com...


Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and
then connected the it to the 8500 via USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or
anything. I waited several minutes, tried rebooting etc still nothing. I
tried this several times.

So did you try opening Windows explorer on the 8500 and using it to browse
the newly attached drive (the one from the 8200).

Yep, 3F
_________________________

To make matters worst my 8200 now will not boot or anything!@! Insteas of a
green light on the front it has a flashing yellow light.

Let me think...
...thinking
...thinking

GOT IT!! You didn't put the freakin' drive back into the 8200.

Yep, definitely 3F
_____________________

Great, now I'm worst off than I was before. I'm writing this on the 8500 but
barely able to get around with no links or anything.

So now what am I to do?

You might try using your head to accomplish what is a *very* basic task. If
you can't figure it out for yourself, try what I and others have been
telling you from the git-go. Or, you can remain 3F.

Actually, your best bet is to take both computers into a shop and tell them
what you want done. You might want to print out this entire thread to show
them; at the very least it would give them a good laugh :)

dadiOH

[dadiOH]

wrote in message
news:6d369f92-62b2-47ad...@googlegroups.com...

of these seem appropriate.

According to the instructions; once
connected the new hardware 'USB' Mass
Storage Device will be installed
automatically, and Driver icon is
created at 'my Computer'


I assume this means a pop-up on the
desktop or am I incorrect?

You are incorrect. It means that when you view the drives/folders/files
using - guess what? - Windows Explorer the drive will be shown as a drive.
You can start Windows Explorer via Winkey + E; or, you can use the noob way
and select "explore" after right clocking the My Computer icon on the
desktop.

_________________________

As an alternative, I did try exporting
my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
all this happened. So if I can't get this
to work maybe you can tell me how I can
import the links from the disc?

Why of course, Robert, I'll be happy to tell you. Again.

1. Turn on your new computer
2. Put the DVD into the optical drive
3. When Windows opens the DVD showing you what is on it, select what you
want and copy them to the new computer. If by chance Windows doesn't open
the drive, start Windows Explorer (see above) select the optical drive and
click it.
________________________

thoughts/suggestions?

Are you a troll? If so, good job!!

dadiOH

[dadiOH]

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
news:9r6v3paP...@soft255.demon.co.uk...

Surely you jest. Links are internet shortcuts. They are an URL. All he
has to do is copy them off his CD onto the new computer.

Why are you folks complicating a simple task by introducing SATA/USB
adapters, removing/installing hard drives, et al?

dadiOH

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I have verified that the adapter is getting power
via the red indicator.

I have tried this at least 6 or more times going very
slowly to make sure I did everything right. The connections
are pretty straightforward but I still get no reaction
either from the adapter aside from the red indicator or
from the 8500.

When I re-install the HD in the 8200 it no longer functions
and will not boot.

Robert

[magin...@yahoo.com]

P.S. Just so there's no further confusion,
the red indicator is located on top of the
SATA/IDE adapter.

Robert

[Ben Myers]

<magin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f918c458-3bb4-43b5...@googlegroups.com...

Remove and reseat the connections.

Ben

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

That's NOT correct!

It is NOT the adapter that requires power from the power supply, it is the
hard disk.

Go back to my Step #3.
"3. Connect the power supply cable of the SATA/IDE to USB kit to the hard
disk. You should feel it power-up."

See the following graphic
http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/other/Ext_HD.jpg

Note the cable inserted into the hard disk and the LED indicating "power on"
on the power supply that came with the adapter kit.

If I lift the drive off the table I can "feel" the vibrations of it being
"on" and if I tilt the axis of the drive I can feel the gyroscopic effect
resisting the motion of changing its plane in space, Both will tell you the
drive has power and is working.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <kndcri$2fa$1...@dont-email.me>, dadiOH <dad...@invalid.com>
writes:

>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
>news:9r6v3paP...@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>
>In message <6d369f92-62b2-47ad...@googlegroups.com>,
>magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>>As an alternative, I did try exporting
>>my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
>>all this happened. So if I can't get this
>>to work maybe you can tell me how I can
>>import the links from the disc?
>
>(I'll let the others tackle this bit as I don't know IE, certainly not
>the 7/8 versions. Probably worth saying how you exported them -
>importing may be a similar exercise.)
>
>Surely you jest. Links are internet shortcuts. They are an URL. All

It still isn't _entirely_ clear what he means by "links", though it does
indeed seem he means URLs (favo[u]rites/bookmarks).

But what do you mean by "they are an URL" - a text file containing a
URL? A shortcut file? A text or other file containing lots of them?

>he has to do is copy them off his CD onto the new computer.

Where to?

>
>Why are you folks complicating a simple task by introducing SATA/USB
>adapters, removing/installing hard drives, et al?
>
>dadiOH

I wasn't, but since someone else had said that and he'd done it, it
seemed the simplest way to carry on with that.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Rugby is a game played by gentlemen with odd-shaped balls.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <f918c458-3bb4-43b5...@googlegroups.com>,

magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>I have verified that the adapter is getting power
>via the red indicator.

Yes, but we rather suspect that the _drive_ isn't. If the drive isn't
getting power, then the adapter won't see it, even if the _adaptor_ *is*
getting power. (In the case of some laptop drives they get power through
the same connector as data, but if it's a desktop one it is a separate
connector.)

>
>I have tried this at least 6 or more times going very
>slowly to make sure I did everything right. The connections
>are pretty straightforward but I still get no reaction
>either from the adapter aside from the red indicator or
>from the 8500.

If it's an EIDE drive, there is the big 40-way connector for the data,
some links, and the power connector which is four large pins. (If it's a
SATA one, I think it still has a power connector, but I'm not sure if
it's as big.)

>
>When I re-install the HD in the 8200 it no longer functions
>and will not boot.

Did you reconnect both the data and the power connector? If it's an EIDE
drive, at least, the power connector will have four wires, usually red,
yellow, and two black.
>
>Robert

>
>
>
>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I don't think I would make a great rock star. I like my tea too much!
- Jessica Raine (Jenny in "Call the Midwife"),
in Radio Times 19-25 January 2013.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

I did as you said and hooked it back up
and the green power indicator on the power
supply did not come on.


Robert

[David H. Lipman]

From: <magin...@yahoo.com>

Then you have a bad power supply, power cable or it is not getting AC.

[magin...@yahoo.com]

Yes, but that doesn't explain when I put
the HD back in the 8200 it won't boot.

I did try a couple of outlets when testing
the power supply just in case.

I can understand if I hooked things up wrong
regarding the adapter but the HD was working
in the 8200 now its not.

So even if I bought a new adapter I'm somewhat
skeptical of it working.

Robert

[dadiOH]

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <kndcri$2fa$1...@dont-email.me>, dadiOH <dad...@invalid.com>
> writes:
>> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
>> news:9r6v3paP...@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> In message <6d369f92-62b2-47ad...@googlegroups.com>,
>> magin...@yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>> As an alternative, I did try exporting
>>> my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
>>> all this happened. So if I can't get this
>>> to work maybe you can tell me how I can
>>> import the links from the disc?
>>
>> (I'll let the others tackle this bit as I don't know IE, certainly
>> not the 7/8 versions. Probably worth saying how you exported them -
>> importing may be a similar exercise.)
>>
>> Surely you jest. Links are internet shortcuts. They are an URL. All
>
> It still isn't _entirely_ clear what he means by "links", though it
> does indeed seem he means URLs (favo[u]rites/bookmarks).
>
> But what do you mean by "they are an URL" - a text file containing a
> URL? A shortcut file? A text or other file containing lots of them?

I mean they are internet shortcuts. A small file listing the address of a
web page. One can create them in "Favorites": on a browser or just drag
them from the site to wherever one wants them. Doesn't matter where they
are, click on one, browser reads the address and goes flying off to download
and diaplay whatever is there.
___________

>> he has to do is copy them off his CD onto the new computer.
>
> Where to?

Wherever he wants them. Win 7 (and Win8) has a "Favorites" folder under his
user name...if he puts them there they will function just as they always
have.

If he puts them in a folder somewhere else they won't be shown in the
browser but if he opens the folder and clicks on one it will function
exactly as it would in the Favorites" folder.
____________

>> Why are you folks complicating a simple task by introducing SATA/USB
>> adapters, removing/installing hard drives, et al?
>

> I wasn't, but since someone else had said that and he'd done it, it
> seemed the simplest way to carry on with that.

I can't see that it is simpler than just copying off what he wants on the
old machine onto any portable media and copying from that to his new
machine. What could be easier?

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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[dadiOH]

magin...@yahoo.com wrote:

> When I re-install the HD in the 8200 it no longer functions
> and will not boot.

I'm wondering if Win 7 modified the master boot record. I certainly
wouldn't think so but I don't know, just asking.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>

> magin...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> When I re-install the HD in the 8200 it no longer functions
>> and will not boot.
>
> I'm wondering if Win 7 modified the master boot record. I certainly
> wouldn't think so but I don't know, just asking.
>

You didn't read the whole thread.

The power supply that came with the SATA/IDE to USB kit wouldn't power up
thus his Win7 PC never even saw the hard disk.

Unfortunately after he indicated he checked and double check, I had to drag
out of him that little tidbit.