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Plato

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Feb 24, 2006, 9:26:07 PM2/24/06
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=?Utf-8?B?aGVhdnl0dWxs?= wrote:
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> hello, I've installed AIDA32 on my pc, it's a tool which gathers information
> about pc such as hardware version, drivers, software installed... also it
> displays all viewed websites addresses. But I noticed when using it that it
> was displaying also some the addresses I manually deleted through Internet
> Explorer "history" tool.
> I would like to know where from AIDA32 could get that information.

>From your harddrive. Assume ANYTHING you do on your pc can be published
on the Front Page of the Next Days Newspaper.


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Ramesh, MS-MVP

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Feb 24, 2006, 9:28:34 PM2/24/06
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See if completely clearing the Index.dat helps. More info at the following
site:

Delete the History folder and index.dat:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

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hello, I've installed AIDA32 on my pc, it's a tool which gathers information
about pc such as hardware version, drivers, software installed... also it
displays all viewed websites addresses. But I noticed when using it that it
was displaying also some the addresses I manually deleted through Internet
Explorer "history" tool.
I would like to know where from AIDA32 could get that information.

I made a search with WinXP search tool using all appropriate options to make
appear even hidden files and subfolders and ... I didn't find anything

Thanks


heavytull

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Feb 25, 2006, 11:16:27 AM2/25/06
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thanks;
How can I access and read the file "index.dat" in a proper manner, i.e.
without any scheming.
all options are set to show hidden files I didn't find more options;
and why all folders in the "history..." folder are invisible?
the Thumbnails viewer of IrfanView only show them!!!
There shoud an option somewhere to set them as visible!

Ramesh, MS-MVP

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Feb 25, 2006, 11:25:59 AM2/25/06
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Did you see the "Completely Deleting the Temporary Internet Files and
index.dat " part in that URL I gave you? Explorer shows the namespace view,
and does not show content.ie5 as a folder.

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heavytull

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Feb 25, 2006, 2:06:27 PM2/25/06
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yes i saw everything;
for deleting the temporary files they say just to delete the whole folder
which I did know and seems to be oobvious!

What I WANT TO DELETE ONLY SOME ENTRIES!
I WANT TO KEEP THE REST OF THE DATA

and So there is no way to make the explorer showing all folders in the
"temporary Internet files"??????
there should be a mean obviously.

kaream

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Feb 25, 2006, 4:20:46 PM2/25/06
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"What I WANT TO DELETE ONLY SOME ENTRIES!
I WANT TO KEEP THE REST OF THE DATA

and So there is no way to make the explorer showing all folders in the
"temporary Internet files"??????"

Yes, there's a very easy way to accomplish exactly what you want.

In Windows Explorer (My Computer) right-click Drive C:, select
Properties, select Disk Cleanup, highlight Temporary Internet Files,
and select View Files. This opens a new window displaying the original
Content.IE5 folder and all of its 8-character randomly-named
subfolders. The files found here can be viewed, copied, moved, run,
etc, *and they may also be individually deleted*. If you return to
your first window and open folders down from Drive C: through Documents
and Settings \ [my logon name] \ Local Settings \ Temporary Internet
Files, what you find there are cookies and other pointers, many of
which have names similar but not identical to the names of the real
files located in the Content.IE5 subfolders. The two open windows do
not duplicate any of each other's display -- the first shows only
cookies and pointers, the second shows only the actual files.

kaream

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Feb 25, 2006, 5:21:53 PM2/25/06
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Also, re your question about deleting History posted a couple of days
ago at
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter/browse_thread/thread/5de8b1b9e151708b

Deleting History does just that -- it deletes only the records that
Windows wrote for that specific folder, but leaves alone these
Temporary Internet Files that Windows had used to generate the History
entries.

Ramesh, MS-MVP

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Feb 25, 2006, 9:30:58 PM2/25/06
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Stop posting in caps. Type the full path in Explorer address bar, and you'll
see the content.ie5 contents.

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kaream

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Feb 26, 2006, 5:51:14 AM2/26/06
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Yes, this method displays both types of TIF files in a single window,
which may well be more convenient. It also eliminates the sometimes
long wait for Disk Cleanup to do its thing. Thanks for the good
suggestion.

Note that instead of having to type the entire path in the Windows
Explorer (My Computer) address bar, it may be easier to open Folders
view, click down through the folders tree to C: \ Documents and
Settings \ [my logon name] \ Local Settings, and click on Temporary
Internet Files. This will put that much of the path into the address
bar for you automatically, leaving you to type only "content.ie5" at
the end before clicking Go or hitting Enter.

Under the main TIF folder will be the cookies and pointers, while the
real files that had been automatically downloaded from each visited
website will be scattered inside the several 8-character-randomly-named
subfolders under Content.IE5, so you'll need to hunt through these for
specific files of interest. Assuming there are lots of files in each
subfolder, it's frequently helpful to sort them all by date if you have
any idea of when the website was visited, since the filenames assigned
by the website can be quite arbitrary and confusing. Or sometimes
sorting by size or type works better, depending on what you're looking
for.

(I had assumed the shouting in caps represented hair-pulling-out
frustration.)

kaream

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Feb 26, 2006, 6:23:43 AM2/26/06
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Note that Content.IE5 is usually not the only hidden folder under
Temporary Internet Files; normally there's at least one OLK folder, and
occasionally there may be one or two more. These are special-purpose
folders that may not be of interest, but in any case, unless you
already know their names, they will not display using this My Computer
address bar single-window method. They all do display, however, with
the Disk Cleanup two-window method.

heavytull

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Feb 27, 2006, 11:23:27 AM2/27/06
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thanks;
Writing in caps was on purpose;-)

I deleted the file index.dat and and the history files have gone when i
started windows explorer;
also
AIDA32 is still showing websites entries. So I still don't know where is
located the data source for aida32.
I remind that AIDA32 actually shows all the web addresses I went on and even
after deleting some of them manually.

kaream

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Feb 27, 2006, 4:55:06 PM2/27/06
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"I deleted the file index.dat and and the history files have gone when
i started windows explorer;"

You had separately posted a question about History at
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter/browse_thread/thread/5de8b1b9e151708b
where I posted this response:


"Deleting History does just that -- it deletes only the records that

Windows wrote for that specific folder, but leaves alone the files
Windows used to generate the History entries."

There are files named Index.dat all over your computer -- a quick
search of my own turns up 29 different such files. You didn't specify
which Index.dat you deleted, but from context I assume it's the one
associated with the History folder you cleaned out, so deleting that
file won't help your problem.

"AIDA32 is still showing websites entries. So I still don't know where
is located the data source for aida32."

I'm not familiar with AIDA32, but if it doesn't display the locations
of the files it finds, it seems the simplest way to find them is
through the Search function of My Computer. Be sure to have it set to
search system files and hidden files. Keep in mind that Search will
*not* be able to look through the "super-hidden" Temporary Internet
Files folders. The previous posts in this thread explain how to access
those folders. Once you think you may have found and deleted all
copies of the files you're trying to get rid of, then run AIDA32 again.

There are much simpler ways of getting rid of *all* of your traces from
website visits, discussed at length elsewhere in these forums, but you
specifically said that you wanted to look at the files, to delete
selectively rather than completely.

heavytull

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Feb 27, 2006, 8:38:09 PM2/27/06
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I never said I deleted the History files and then I deleted the Index.dat!
I said that I deleted the Index.dat and when I lauched win Explorer all
History files have been deleted;

What I didn't say is that when I launched the Win Explorer It took some one
minute I think during which the HD was working hard and when it finally
appeared (the win explorer window) i noticed that there was 4 randomly named
folders left and all the others have been deleted and the left folders were
empty.

That's good we have the same reaction; searching with the search tool of
Windows (including all necessary options of course) first of all is actually
what I did and I'm sure I told that in a previous post last week; I think it
is the post with the same title which I actually mistakenly put in the
"media centre" section;

there's no need to be familiar with AIDA32, just kno that it shows some data
that I can't find the location;

thanks

Plato

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Mar 1, 2006, 1:11:21 AM3/1/06
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=?Utf-8?B?aGVhdnl0dWxs?= wrote:
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> How can I access and read the file "index.dat" in a proper manner, i.e.
> without any scheming.

You cant. It's a propriatary MS file.


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heavytull

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Mar 3, 2006, 2:50:37 PM3/3/06
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So finally nnobody is able to tell me where WinXP is hiding the
Historic websites entries!!!

kaream

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Mar 3, 2006, 3:31:23 PM3/3/06
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"So finally nnobody is able to tell me where WinXP is hiding the
Historic websites entries!!!"

Apparently it has something to do with Prefetch. See, for instance,
the discussion at

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain/browse_thread/thread/c24829ace295e869/7b669d769d48a488?lnk=st&q=Content.IE5&rnum=6#7b669d769d48a488

R. McCarty

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Mar 3, 2006, 3:39:03 PM3/3/06
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Within the Temporary Internet Files of your User Profile will be a
"Hidden" file, Index.Dat. This is where the histogram of IE visits is
stored. Google around and there are a number of Utilities/Tools
that will purge/remove it - if that's what you're seeking.

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kaream

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Mar 3, 2006, 3:54:12 PM3/3/06
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"Within the Temporary Internet Files of your User Profile will be a
"Hidden" file, Index.Dat. This is where the histogram of IE visits is
stored. Google around and there are a number of Utilities/Tools
that will purge/remove it - if that's what you're seeking."

The OP had said above,


"I deleted the file index.dat and and the history files have gone when
i
started windows explorer;

also


AIDA32 is still showing websites entries. So I still don't know where
is
located the data source for aida32.

I remind that AIDA32 actually shows all the web addresses I went on and
even
after deleting some of them manually."

But apparently it was the History Index.dat that was deleted rather
than the TIF Index.dat. I don't know anything about Prefetch, but it
seems somehow to reconstitute the information from these Index.dat
files, if I'm reading those other posts correctly.

kaream

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Mar 3, 2006, 7:02:08 PM3/3/06
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Heavytull, here's an interesting website that throws a lot of light on
your problem. It's pretty spooky. The discussion is dated 2001, but
it is probably still relevant regardless of the Windows version used:

http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

heavytull

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Mar 8, 2006, 1:35:31 PM3/8/06
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yes the text is old;
finally the hidden file the author is just the .dat file;

if really microsoft is hidding some progs and data on our hard drives I
don't think some software not made by microsoft could access them.
for exemple my software AIDA32 which has no apparent relation with microsoft
shows some data I can't find by searching on the hard drive. If the author of
AIDA32 knows about the location of those files, it means that it is not a
secret of microsoft.

Also in your link the author says you just have to use another Internet
Explorer tool like Mozilla or other to avoid microsoft spy while it is so
easy to an advanced programmer to make a code that scans all internet
activity even without using a specific internet explorer tool.
So the conclusion is: If microsoft wants to spy all our activity it can do
with a perfect discretion almost, at least for 99.9% of all microsoft tools
users; I think that there is less than 0.1% that are advanced enough to
threat microsoft by their skills.

Anyway there is one way to avoid microsoft spies and I'm not sure, it is to
use Linux;
but maybe lunux programmers also make some spyware. who knows?

In fact the best is to not to use at all internet and even cut the cable or
break the Wifi antenna.
But if some authorities come into your house and check your HD, they'll find
certainly more data that you would expect.
So the best is to not to use computers.
Also since any data carried by the GSM carriers can be spied you're not safe
at all by using your mobile!
so the best is to not to use computers and also mobile phones;
and so on!!!

I hope you liked it!

PJ in Fla

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Apr 19, 2006, 7:51:01 PM4/19/06
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PJ in Fla

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Apr 19, 2006, 8:37:03 PM4/19/06
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<sigh>

Sorry for the junk post above.

I'll try my post tomorrow - too late to recompose (decompose?) it again.

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