Xp Home to XP Pro Question?
"old" devildog
I have a legally purchased XP Home w/SP2 full retail running right now (it
has passed WGA). I won't bother you with all the details of why, but MS has
just shipped to me a full retail XP Pro w/SP2 at no charge. The original XP
Home SP1 OEM that came on the computer was wiped out along with the crapware
Gateway included with a reformat and clean install of the Home SP2 six
months ago. Should I just backup to my D: drive and do a clean install of
Pro or do a back up and do a repair install over the XP Home? Of course
using the new Product Key on the XP Pro folder. I know that SP2 has to be
present on the repair CD to match what is already present on the computer.
Since both the XP Home and XP Pro boxes are SP2 this shouldn't be a problem,
right?
I know a clean install will require me to reinstall of all of my software
again (I would hate doing all of the software upgrades that will have to be
preformed to most of my software). Will a repair install with XP Pro CD be
the easiest way of doing it? Or is that not an option?
Also with the XP Home no longer being used will I be able to use the XP Home
on another computer. Remember the XP Home was a full retail purchase and not
an upgrade. Will the XP Home Key be tied to the XP Pro if I just do a repair
install and not be usable on another computer?
I do have a use for the XP Home if it is legal to do so. And before I am
asked, no I will not be placing for sale either version of XP.
"old" devildog
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""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote in message
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rebuild and upgrade their 3 year old HP this fall. I am not even sure that
XP Home will be easy for them to learn. It took a year to get them up to
speed on Win'98 SE. Besides I would like the Pro on my machine. I am
planning on building another computer for my three sons and placing Pro on
it so that I can do a wired network here in the house. Pro is the best for
networking through my cable router, and it allows me to be the Admin. on
both machines and set policies to protect both machines from the crap that
is picked up on the net (teenagers on the net can be a big problem to
security).
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.ha...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
said...
OK.. go to http://www.michaelstevenstech.com and look at the section on
repair installs.. there are warnings on the page to make you aware that
nothing is ever foolproof, and Michael is right to warn users.. however,
there are some days when nothing goes wrong, and all being well, the
'repair' will go well..
I have a feeling that if you take the 'upgrade' route, then the XP Home will
be inextricably tied to XP Pro.. no doubt somebody will correct me if I am
wrong in thinking this.. personally, I don't see how it could be, but I have
heard otherwise..
As long as XP Home has not been activated within 120 days, there should be
no problem re-installing and activating on another computer, other than
normal problems like the dreaded BSOD, CD not reading correctly, CRC errors
etc..
Just kidding really.. think positive and all will be well
Good luck..
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"old" devildog
I will check out the link you posted. I would like to do this the easy way
but as we all know, Murphy's law will sometimes poke its nose in and mess up
everything. The XP home was activated in Feb. of this year, so it has been
more than 120 days. Still think I am leaning to the format and start fresh,
but even with cable, the thought of installing all the software and updating
a large part of it is not my idea of a fun 2 days. Maybe MS didn't do me a
favor giving me the free XP Pro. But it was a very nice gesture from them.
Thanks again for the answer. I am sure there will be more postings later on
today and tonight.
Just maybe I will disclose the way I got a copy of XP Pro for free from MS.
"old" devildog
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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.ha...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Ron Martell
>I have a feeling that if you take the 'upgrade' route, then the XP Home will
>be inextricably tied to XP Pro.. no doubt somebody will correct me if I am
>wrong in thinking this.. personally, I don't see how it could be, but I have
>heard otherwise..
As it is a Retail Full Install version of Pro there should be no need
for an "upgraded from" license even though the actual install was done
as an upgrade.
I believe that in this specific instance the Retail XP Home license
could be legitimately reused on another computer.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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>A Question to the MVP's
>
>I have a legally purchased XP Home w/SP2 full retail running right now (it
>has passed WGA). I won't bother you with all the details of why, but MS has
>just shipped to me a full retail XP Pro w/SP2 at no charge. The original XP
>Home SP1 OEM that came on the computer was wiped out along with the crapware
>Gateway included with a reformat and clean install of the Home SP2 six
>months ago. Should I just backup to my D: drive and do a clean install of
>Pro or do a back up and do a repair install over the XP Home? Of course
>using the new Product Key on the XP Pro folder. I know that SP2 has to be
>present on the repair CD to match what is already present on the computer.
>Since both the XP Home and XP Pro boxes are SP2 this shouldn't be a problem,
>right?
>
>I know a clean install will require me to reinstall of all of my software
>again (I would hate doing all of the software upgrades that will have to be
>preformed to most of my software). Will a repair install with XP Pro CD be
>the easiest way of doing it? Or is that not an option?
>
>Also with the XP Home no longer being used will I be able to use the XP Home
>on another computer. Remember the XP Home was a full retail purchase and not
>an upgrade. Will the XP Home Key be tied to the XP Pro if I just do a repair
>install and not be usable on another computer?
>
>I do have a use for the XP Home if it is legal to do so. And before I am
>asked, no I will not be placing for sale either version of XP.
>
>"old" devildog
You should be able to just install your new XP Pro as an upgrade of
the installed XP Home, thereby preserving all of your installed
applications, configuration settings, and user data files.
Because the new XP Pro is a Retail Full Install version there is no
licensing requirement to have a previous license for the "upgraded
from" product. Therefore your existing XP Home retail license should
be freed up by the installation of Pro, and you would be free to move
that Home license to whatever other computer you wish to use it on.
Good luck
Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I wasn't too sure about that..
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AnnaL
want to know if there would be any problems doing an upgrade rather
than full install, as OEM is tied to the motherboard.
I know, it's a stupid question and I probably already know the answer,
but want to be sure.
AnnaL
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"old" devildog
Like I had hoped, The XP Pro license is now on the OS on my computer, and
that frees up the XP Home for legal use on another computer.
Now all I have to ask myself, is it worth the 6 hour one way drive to put XP
Home on my parents computer, and the phone calls everyday for the next 6
months to a year till they get it down. Well at least it will give them
something new to do for a while, and as long as they call every day I worry
less about them at their ages.
Now I just need to order the new MOB, processor, HD and power supply. In
fact I think I will even get them a cable modem and pay for the monthly
connection to get them off of dail-up and on to broadband. Their cable
company requires XP Home as a minimum to use their services. Win'98SE is
not allowed due to what they called "security" problems.
Anyway thanks again for the input. I am aiming to do the upgrade this
weekend.
"old" devildog
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
if you give them the XP theme.. it will also run faster.. I wouldn't have
mine any other way..
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for too long. I may even be brain dead by now. Lets see I have owned and
used Windows 1.0, 3.1, NT, '95, ' and now XP. I skipped the ME, '2000
upgrades as I felt the OS was not what I wanted. In fact my company never
sold a single copy of ME or 2000. They didn't "play" well with the graphics
design software we sold. As well as Boeing, Beechcraft, and Lear wanted
nothing to do with these OS's from MS. When I sold out and retired, XP was
just getting to SP1 and we had not even attempted to try it on the special
software we were using at the time. Now I understand they are installing and
using quite well XP Pro with zero problems. Retirement at 51 is not that
bad. I have invested the profits from the sale and I can expect to have a
nice monthly income for the next 30 years easily. Let me see, I started the
company from my home in '92 with a $500 bonus check (from the now failed
company I worked for then) and sold out in late 2002 for just a little over
20,000 times that much. Not a bad investment of $500. I sold out to my
employees. They help build the company over the years and I felt they should
benefit from the profits after I retired. They tell me busseness is booming
as they have branched out to knew types of hardware and software.
"old" devildog
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smoothing screen fonts.. other than that, the cute XP colours are gone and
silly fading effects are gone..
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from my D: drive to my C: drive. Formatted D: drive. Shut Down and swapped
the drives as far as slave and primary giving me a "new" C; drive to install
to. Went ahead and installed the XP Pro to the "new" drive. After installing
and activating, I used the F.A.S.T. wizard to transfer all the settings and
data to the "new" drive. No problem, no mess, no fuss. All I have to do is
to transfer some digital camera photos to store on the "new" drive. I will
then reformat the "now" D: drive to remove XP Home and that will release the
XP home to use again. I guess having two 80 gig HD's paid off. It was nice
of MS to include the ability to use another drive (using the "other" option
in FAST). In a few hours the "new" D: drive will once again be the storage
point for the digital camera's we own.
I admit I expected some small problems. That is why all data and the XP Home
was well protected, and was placed in a very safe place in case of problems.
If there were problems a simple switch would have me back up and running.
But this time Murphy's Law was somewhere else picking on someone else.
I did check with MS on the reuse of XP Home. I was informed that as long as
the XP Home was completely removed from my HD (reformatting the OS
containing HD is considered complete removal), that it would be no problem
installing it on my parents computer, since I am also the owner of that
computer and the Win'98 OS on it. Tomorrow I will order a new power supply,
MOB, P4, HD, DVD, and CDRW for it ( I never liked buying a perfabbed
computer). I do plan on Installing The XP Home on the new HD and using
F.A.S.T. to transfer the data and other things needed. Reusing that old HD
will not happen as it is now over 3 years old, only a 20 gig drive and ready
for retirement.
"old" devildog
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