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Summer1

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:24:01 PM12/24/09
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Good Day:

I am always signed in to my 'User' account (as opposed to 'Administrator'
account) and I have Logitech webcam software installed.

I signed in to my 'Admin' account to check something and it started to
automatically install 'Logitech Video.' Why didn't it automatically install
under my 'User' account? If I hadn't signed in to 'Admin,' I wouldn't have
known about the update.

Dr. Dos

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:55:35 PM12/24/09
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That is a question for Logitech. >
http://logictech.com/

thanatoid

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Dec 25, 2009, 2:08:40 AM12/25/09
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=?Utf-8?B?U3VtbWVyMQ==?= <Sum...@discussions.microsoft.com>
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From my limited experience with eXtraPainful, some software
installs under "Admin" and some installs under All Users.

Some things which are considered "system-wide" and essential -
like DVD software, anti-virus, soundcard or a webcam MAY or may
not install under Admin while other things which are JUST as
important may or may not install under "All Users".

It is totally insane and infuriating. But you can move the links
around later.

I would recommend installing everything under Admin and logging
in as Admin. There are some security concerns if you're online
all the time, but you can research that and get around them.

The basic procedure of installing should NEVER be done on-line
anyway, you DL what you need, get offline, scan for viruses, and
install. In that case, it doesn't matter if you're logged in as
Admin, no one can get at you anyway.

SC Tom

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:00:57 AM12/25/09
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"thanatoid" <wai...@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
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The problem with logging in as Admin for all installations is that the OP
will more than likely have the same problem he has now- that when he logs
into his User account, the software won't be updated. It's a "damned if you
do, damned if you don't" catch-22. A lot of software (and the newer releases
seem to do it even more so) either automatically installs itself as "All
Users" or prompts for either Current User or All Users.

To the OP: Was this a software update that occurred when you logged in as
Admin, or was it doing an internal update to add the webcam to the Admin
account? If the latter, then that's normal. Since you hadn't logged in as
Admin yet, the Admin account didn't know it had a webcam to play with. The
software was already installed, but the shortcuts just weren't there yet. If
you look at the Start Menu under Documents and Settings under each of the
users listed there, you might find more than one entry for Logitech. That
just shows poor design from the software writer, and would explain why you
saw the message after logging in as Admin.
--
SC Tom

thanatoid

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:26:57 PM12/25/09
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"SC Tom" <s...@tom.net> wrote in
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<SNIP>

> The problem with logging in as Admin for all installations
> is that the OP will more than likely have the same problem
> he has now- that when he logs into his User account, the
> software won't be updated.

I'm not that far into XP yet, but why everyone doesn't ONLY ever
log in as Admin and ignore the Users as much as possible?
(Unless they're just trapped in corporate in which case they can
get "the computer guy(s)" to solve all these insane problems -
after all, that's just one reason why MS software is so logical
and easy to use, to keep tech support busy.)

I can not even imagine the horror of setting up the machine as
Admin and then making myself a "User" profile. Why don't I pull
out my fingernails with pliers while I'm at it?

> It's a "damned if you do, damned
> if you don't" catch-22. A lot of software (and the newer
> releases seem to do it even more so) either automatically
> installs itself as "All Users" or prompts for either
> Current User or All Users.

Well, that's good to know. ANOTHER reasons to not use any
software less than 5-7 years old. I still use stuff from the
90's and a lot of it, thank fubar, works on XP. I /have/ had to
look for a ".01 newer" version in a couple of instances, but
generally it's better than I thought it would be.

<SNIP>

SC Tom

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Dec 25, 2009, 10:22:28 PM12/25/09
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"thanatoid" <wai...@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message

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> "SC Tom" <s...@tom.net> wrote in
> news:ugwlsqWh...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> The problem with logging in as Admin for all installations
>> is that the OP will more than likely have the same problem
>> he has now- that when he logs into his User account, the
>> software won't be updated.
>
> I'm not that far into XP yet, but why everyone doesn't ONLY ever
> log in as Admin and ignore the Users as much as possible?
> (Unless they're just trapped in corporate in which case they can
> get "the computer guy(s)" to solve all these insane problems -
> after all, that's just one reason why MS software is so logical
> and easy to use, to keep tech support busy.)
>
> I can not even imagine the horror of setting up the machine as
> Admin and then making myself a "User" profile. Why don't I pull
> out my fingernails with pliers while I'm at it?

I am yet to use anything but an administrator account on any of my home
machines since Win95 or so (been a while), and (KOW) have had no problems
with malware of any sort. No one uses my PC's except me, so that a plus. I
keep up on my anti-malware updates, OS updates, and service packs. On Vista
and Win7 I've turned UAC off; I don't like it and don't need it.
When I was working, I was in charge of a smallish network with 40
workstations. On those, users were set up without admin privileges for
obvious reasons. Other than that, why should I bother.
--
SC Tom

Summer1

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:54:01 AM12/26/09
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'All I know is that Logitech Webcam Software' and 'Desktop Messenger' were
installed ounder 'User' and 'Admin.'

When I went into 'Admin,' it automatically installed 'Logitech Video' and
then I went back to 'User' and it was there too.

Is that a software or internal update and is why was it only installed under
'Admin?'

>
> To the OP: Was this a software update that occurred when you logged in as
> Admin, or was it doing an internal update to add the webcam to the Admin
> account? If the latter, then that's normal. Since you hadn't logged in as
> Admin yet, the Admin account didn't know it had a webcam to play with. The
> software was already installed, but the shortcuts just weren't there yet. If
> you look at the Start Menu under Documents and Settings under each of the
> users listed there, you might find more than one entry for Logitech. That
> just shows poor design from the software writer, and would explain why you
> saw the message after logging in as Admin.
> --
> SC Tom
>

> .
>

thanatoid

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:03:26 AM12/26/09
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=?Utf-8?B?U3VtbWVyMQ==?= <Sum...@discussions.microsoft.com>
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> 'All I know is that Logitech Webcam Software' and 'Desktop
> Messenger' were installed ounder 'User' and 'Admin.'
>
> When I went into 'Admin,' it automatically installed
> 'Logitech Video' and then I went back to 'User' and it was
> there too.
>
> Is that a software or internal update and is why was it
> only installed under 'Admin?'

Have you actually tried running all the software you want to
run? Wherever it's installed, only "documents" and "settings" go
in Admin or User, the programs go n in "Program Files" and
/should be/ available to all users. Only serious system
tweaks/config changes are restricted to Admins.

So are you saying that since it installed under "Admin", it
*won't let you* run it as a "User"?

If that's the case, I would contact Logitech. Or always log in
as Admin - see SC Tom's post.

Summer1

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Dec 27, 2009, 1:18:01 AM12/27/09
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I am always signed in to my 'User' account and install software and receive
software updates under this account.

I initially installed the 'Logitech Webcam Software' and 'Desktop Messenger'
under my 'User' account and it automatically 'copied' it to my 'Administator'
account.

Under my 'User' account, I was not notified that the 'Logitech Video' update
was available until I signed in to my 'Adminstrator' account for another
reason and it automatically started installing the update.

I can run the 'Logitech Video' software under 'User' and 'Admin' but I do
not understand 'why' the program was not 'updated' under 'User' where I am
signed in most of the time.


> So are you saying that since it installed under "Admin", it
> *won't let you* run it as a "User"?
>
> If that's the case, I would contact Logitech. Or always log in
> as Admin - see SC Tom's post.

> .
>

thanatoid

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Dec 27, 2009, 1:23:20 AM12/27/09
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=?Utf-8?B?U3VtbWVyMQ==?= <Sum...@discussions.microsoft.com>
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>
> I am always signed in to my 'User' account and install
> software and receive software updates under this account.
>
> I initially installed the 'Logitech Webcam Software' and
> 'Desktop Messenger' under my 'User' account and it
> automatically 'copied' it to my 'Administator' account.
>
> Under my 'User' account, I was not notified that the
> 'Logitech Video' update was available until I signed in to
> my 'Adminstrator' account for another reason and it
> automatically started installing the update.
>
> I can run the 'Logitech Video' software under 'User' and
> 'Admin' but I do not understand 'why' the program was not
> 'updated' under 'User' where I am signed in most of the
> time.

Unless more than one person is using your computer, your
procedures do not make sense. Decide whether you are UserX or
the Admin and **stick with it**.

AFA the Logitech-related details, only they can tell you, and
they won't.

I'm just amazed computers work at all sometimes.

Summer1

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:07:01 AM12/27/09
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All I know is that when I was signed in to my 'User' account the 'Logitech
Video' update was not available. However, when I signed into theAdmin
account, it 'became' available.

The 'Logitech Video' update 'is' part of the original install but I opted
out of it when installing 'Logitech.'

I'm assuming that it 'reminds' me periodically that the update is available
and that it can only be installed if the user has administrator priviledges?

"thanatoid" wrote:

> .
>

SC Tom

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:49:51 AM12/27/09
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Not having used the software myself, I would have to guess that you are
correct, that the update needed admin privileges somewhere along the line.
You might try Logitech support or their forums for a better answer. Or maybe
someone else here has had that same experience.
--
SC Tom

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thanatoid

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Dec 27, 2009, 4:10:48 PM12/27/09
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<SNIP>

Just forget about all other users and be the admin. and do
everything as the admin, FFS.

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