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paul

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Mar 13, 2006, 9:27:28 PM3/13/06
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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314057


"Dave" <Da...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Greetings, Hope I can get an answer here. New machine, I'll post the specs
> if
> needed. a week or so ago, I get a message that something has changed and I
> need to re-resister {nothing in the computer has changed. nothing added,
> nothing removed. } so I do, and have to call in for hte activation code,
> {what a pain}. Fine so now I am registered again. next thing it does is on
> next boot it tells me that the NTLDR is missing, Crap ok I go to the
> recovery
> console and re-do the boto sector. boots fine. Then I take out the OEM CD
> and
> get the ntldr message again. I then put the CD back in and try to boot up,
> and it boots fine. IT will only boot if the CD is in the damned drive. Any
> ideas as to what may have happened? or what I can do to fix this issue?
>
> Thank in advance


GoldWing214

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Mar 13, 2006, 10:17:27 PM3/13/06
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How Do I Correct An NTLDR or NTDETECT.COM Not Found Error


For some reason or other this problem has appeared quite regularly in the XP
newsgroups and while it can be an inconvenience - you not being able to boot
your pc - the actual remedy is relatively simple. However, although the
remedy is simple, the way you go about it will be dependant upon whether you
are able to boot your system from the Windows XP CD or whether you need to
boot from an older Windows 98/Me startup floppy disk.


Booting directly from the Windows XP CD


1/ Place your Windows XP CD into your CD-ROM and Reboot your PC


2/ XP's setup program will automatically start and files will be loaded to
memory


3/When you reach the Welcome to Setup screen choose the Repair option by
pressing R


4/ This will open the Recovery Console


5/ The list of Windows installations will appear


6/ As you only have one installation on your PC you need to press the number
which is relevant to your installations location. This, obviously will
typically be 1


7/ You now need to enter your Administrator password to gain access. If you
are suing Windows XP Home the administrator password is blank by default so
simply press Enter


8/Now enter the following depending upon which file you need to replace. In
both instances replace the 'X' with the drive letter of your CD-ROM


COPY X:\i386\NTLDR C\:


COPY X:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:\


11/ Finally remove your XP CD from the CD-ROM and then type Exit


12/ Reboot your machine to see if the the problem has been cured

You say a new machine I hope this is a clean install if not then follow
Pauls web link.

Wesley Vogel

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Mar 13, 2006, 11:00:17 PM3/13/06
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Make sure that there are no non-system disks in any removable drives when
you boot.

Creating a Boot Disk for an NTFS or FAT Partition
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311073

How To Create a Boot Disk for an NTFS or FAT Partition in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305595

How to use System files to create a boot disk to guard against being unable
to start Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314079

NTLDR is missing, why does it happen?

[[This problem may occur if the basic input/output system (BIOS) on your
computer is outdated, or if one or more of the following Windows boot files
are missing or damaged:
Ntldr
Ntdetect.com
Boot.ini ]]
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid18728

[[Cause:
Computer is booting from a non-bootable source.
Computer hard disk drive is not properly setup in BIOS.
Corrupt NTLDR and/or NTDETECT.COM file.
Misconfiguration with the boot.ini file.
Attempting to upgrade from a Windows 95, 98, or ME computer that is using
FAT32.
New hard disk drive being added.
Corrupt boot sector / master boot record.
Seriously corrupted version of Windows 2000 or Windows XP.
Loose or Faulty IDE/EIDE hard disk drive cable. ]]
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

[[For this problem to occur, all the following conditions must be true:
• The system/startup partition is formatted with the FAT32 file system.
• The computer starts by using INT-13 extensions. (This is a partition
larger than 7.8 GB with a System-ID type of 0C in the partition table).
• Because of the cloning procedure, the Heads (sides) value in the FAT32
BIOS Parameter Block (BPB) does not match the geometry of the physical
drive. ]]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314057


Error Message When You Start Your Computer with a Non-System Disk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;812492

Windows XP Does Not Start on a Computer That Is Configured for Dual Booting
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315233

You Receive an "NTLDR Is Missing" Error Message When You Start Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320397

HOW TO: Troubleshoot the "NTLDR Is Missing" Error Message in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318728

Err Msg: Boot - Can't Find NTLDR, or Windows Could Not Start..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;101862

"NTLDR Is Missing" Error Message When You Upgrade or Install Windows XP Over
Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Millennium Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314057

The Computer Does Not Start After You Change the Active Partition by Using
the Disk Management Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315261

Cannot Start Windows XP After You Install Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283433

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Dave

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Mar 13, 2006, 11:17:25 PM3/13/06
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Goldwing214 Yes it is a new install, new machine no upgrade. I will try this
and let you know, I appreciate you and everyone responding. Thanks again
Dave

Dave

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Mar 13, 2006, 11:36:06 PM3/13/06
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Goldwing, I just followed your instructions, and still have the same issue.
The only other thing that I have found is that the XP family sometimes
doesn't liek root drives bigger than 160 gig. The current configuration has a
250 IDE drive as the root drive, as well as 2 RAID 0+1 sets there. I will see
if I can use ghost to put hte C:\drive on a 120 hitachi drive that I have
laying about.

Dave

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Mar 13, 2006, 11:37:21 PM3/13/06
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That was oneof the first things that I checked , thanks

Unk

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Mar 14, 2006, 12:44:10 AM3/14/06
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:16:27 -0800, Dave <Da...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Greetings, Hope I can get an answer here. New machine, I'll post the specs if
>needed. a week or so ago, I get a message that something has changed and I
>need to re-resister {nothing in the computer has changed. nothing added,
>nothing removed. } so I do, and have to call in for hte activation code,
>{what a pain}. Fine so now I am registered again. next thing it does is on
>next boot it tells me that the NTLDR is missing, Crap ok I go to the recovery
>console and re-do the boto sector. boots fine. Then I take out the OEM CD and
>get the ntldr message again. I then put the CD back in and try to boot up,
>and it boots fine. IT will only boot if the CD is in the damned drive. Any
>ideas as to what may have happened? or what I can do to fix this issue?
>
>Thank in advance

Try this: http://www.protostorm.com/bcupdate2.html

Dave

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Mar 15, 2006, 2:06:28 AM3/15/06
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Tried all the suggestions, Same results. thanks for the efforts.

dave xnet

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Mar 15, 2006, 3:33:29 AM3/15/06
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Hello,
another possibility with this message is that the boot.ini
is damaged. Boot to the recovery console and use the
bootcfg command.
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_console_cmds.mspx

Dave

Wesley Vogel

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Mar 15, 2006, 11:02:04 AM3/15/06
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Did you even read my whole post?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Dave <Da...@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:

>> • The system/startup partition is formatted with the FAT32 file system.
>> • The computer starts by using INT-13 extensions. (This is a partition


>> larger than 7.8 GB with a System-ID type of 0C in the partition table).

>> • Because of the cloning procedure, the Heads (sides) value in the

Plato

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Mar 15, 2006, 11:43:12 AM3/15/06
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Wesley Vogel wrote:
>
> Did you even read my whole post?

No. I dont bother reading. I demand that any fixes be delivered in my
lap asap.

Wesley Vogel

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Mar 15, 2006, 3:16:30 PM3/15/06
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:-D

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Rick

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Apr 17, 2006, 10:11:01 PM4/17/06
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Hello,
I purchase a Z Disc 12in1 enclosure that I put a WD 40 gig hard drive in.
The system works great with windows. However when I reboot. I get a NTLDR is
missing hit control alt delete. Every thing was working fine to that point (
I was trying to use it for Norton’s Ghost 2003) I have an ASUS A8V
Motherboard with an AMD 64 1.8 Gig processor. Also when it reboots I get 2
beeps with it hooked up. The minute I unplug it and reboot all is fine. Its
like it only works in Windows. My motherboard is a SATA with only one drive.
Any help would be great.

Rick

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