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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:18:06 AM11/16/09
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For the first time I decided to activate the Guest User logon. Here's what's
happening. Word will not install at all. I get repeated error messages
regarding the Office Source Engine. I've spent many hours trying different
fixes, including reinstalling Word.
However, though Works appears to install under Guest User, when I try to
perform any routine functions (save, delete, etc.) I get messages that
"Works cannot complete the task," and "Works cannot install."
The only application that seems to work under the Guest User logon is
Encarta.
The problem is apparently not with Word or Works, both of which function
perfectly under the Owner logon.
What can I do to enable a guest user to use Word and Works?


Rich Barry

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:40:30 PM11/16/09
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Have you tried looking in Local Computer Config. Go to Start>Run type:
gpedit.msc
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Hot-text

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:19:04 PM11/16/09
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Why you need to activate the Guest User logon for its have no Admit Rights
it just for Guest to Play Games read E-Mails..
you are Crying about giving up Admit Rights
You Need to Make a New USER >> with a Password so you can give up same
Right to but not all
So that a USER can do WORD AND WORK
and all the error will go away
I Have 3 Users
1 for Wife
1 for me with all Admit Rights
1 for Son with no Rights at all LOOL


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Shenan Stanley

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:32:54 PM11/16/09
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Hot-text wrote:
> Why you need to activate the Guest User logon for its have no
> Admit Rights it just for Guest to Play Games read E-Mails..
> you are Crying about giving up Admit Rights
> You Need to Make a New USER >> with a Password so you can give up
> same Right to but not all
> So that a USER can do WORD AND WORK
> and all the error will go away
> I Have 3 Users
> 1 for Wife
> 1 for me with all Admit Rights
> 1 for Son with no Rights at all LOOL

If english is not your primary language - there are newsgroups better suited
to assist you.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:35:37 PM11/16/09
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I'm sure you meant to be helpful, but if I "look in" Local Computer Config,
what will I expect to see--and what should I do once there?

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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:41:52 PM11/16/09
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I don't understand what you're telling me. Are you trying to help or just
being nasty?
All the Help files and Windows xp books clearly say that a Guest user should
be able to use all applications installed by Windows.
Why all are accessible except Word and Works is what puzzles me.
I'm wondering if it might have something to do with the fact that I checked
the box to "make my folders secure." Both these apps create and save
documents, some of which are, of course, in "secure" folders.
I can't think of any other possibilities.
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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:50:41 PM11/16/09
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Run reports: "Cannot find gpedit.msc. Be sure you typed the name correctly."

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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:05:41 PM11/16/09
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I'm running Windows XP Home. I suspect that the "group edit" function is not
available in this version of Windows.
Here's my frustration: All the books and Windows Help resources tell me that
Guest users should be able to use all programs installed by Windows.
If I were told authoritatively that Word and Works are "exceptions" and that
I should not expect them to work, I'd be OK with that. Windows does have a
serviceable word processor (Wordpad) that a guest could use.
When I run Works in the Guest user account, it loads and creates documents,
but when I try to save, I get error messages such as "Works cannot complete
this task," "Works cannot install," and "Try reloading Windows or Check your
hard drive."
Word will not install, the message here being that it cannot access the
Office Source Engine. I know the OSE is where it's supposed to be. I've
uninstalled and reinstalled Word and even run Word "repair." It runs
smoothly, indicating that, at least from the Owner logon, it can access the
OSE.
So the "problem" is not with Word but with Windows.
Windows XP Inside Out by Ed Bott instructs me to check the box "Make my
folders private," without suggesting that doing so might make Word unuseable
to the Guest user. Is it possible that had I not checked that box, these
applications would run successfully? I am at a loss.

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Hot-text

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:50:54 PM11/16/09
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English is not a primary language for the USA!!!

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Tim Meddick

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:53:19 PM11/16/09
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JD,

The "Guest" user has problems with storing and accessing Application Data.

This is due to the fact that the "permissions" that the Guest account has are LOWER
than a normal Limited Account.

The best way to allow an unknown "Guest" user to access your PC not requiring a
password is to create a new user account called "User" with limited access, and not
set a password for it.

This can then function as a "Guest" account but will have the right level of
permissions to correctly save and access settings created by both Windows and
programs & games.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Hot-text

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:53:02 PM11/16/09
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YES

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:57:43 PM11/16/09
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YES


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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:38:11 PM11/16/09
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Does your "Yes" mean that I should not expect the Guest User to be able to
access Word and Works?

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JD

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:41:49 PM11/16/09
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Tim,
I thank you for your thoughtful reply. At last an "answer" that I can
understand!
I'm going to take your advice.
Is there a way that I can "undo" the Guest User configurations that I've
already done? That is, return it to the "default" state it was in before I
set it up--make it as if I had never turned it on?
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Tim Meddick

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:52:26 PM11/16/09
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JD,

Yes, de-activate (turn off) the Guest user account in the "User Accounts" control
panel.

After rebooting, you should then be able to delete the entire "Guest" folder as in :

"C:\Documents and Settings\Guest".

This will effectively delete all the settings associated with the Guest account
stored in the file : ..\Guest\ntuser.dat along with Application Data and the Guest's
Documents folder.

On re-activating (turning on) the Guest account, the whole "Guest" profile folder
will be re-created using default settings...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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JD

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:43:46 AM11/17/09
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You're a gentleman and a scholar!

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Hot-text

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:07:58 AM11/17/09
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YES JD for Tim is right


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Hot-text

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:14:25 AM11/17/09
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And Tom #1 in my Book to JD
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK TOM
you the ONE

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Tim Meddick

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:09:09 PM11/17/09
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You are most welcome.

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Rich Barry

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:43:09 PM11/17/09
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To sum this up, JD did not have a version of WinXP with gpedit.msc
available and wouldnt know what to do with it if he had it. Hot-Text
tries to help him and Shenan tells him to get lost his English is
terrible. JD gets upset and Tim comes to his rescue. Hot-Text keeps
calling Tim, Tom and he's the Man. JD is satisfied finally with Tim's
explanation and all is well with the world. Did I get that right?

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Tim Meddick

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:47:45 PM11/17/09
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I'm quite sure you did!

Shenan Stanley

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:33:14 PM11/17/09
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Rich Barry wrote:
> To sum this up, JD did not have a version of WinXP with
> gpedit.msc available and wouldnt know what to do with it if he had
> it. Hot-Text tries to help him and Shenan tells him to get
> lost his English is terrible. JD gets upset and Tim comes to his
> rescue. Hot-Text keeps calling Tim, Tom and he's the Man. JD is
> satisfied finally with Tim's explanation and all is well with the
> world. Did I get that right?

We'll have to wait until next week on "Soap"...

Hot-text

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:55:29 PM11/18/09
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In plane English YES

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Hot-text

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Soap of the week

Re: Can you recommend a good text search utility? (for WindowsXP, esp for
Office2003)

LOOL

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Tom Willett

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Hot-Text = Hooplehead of the Week

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