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sherlockomes

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Jun 8, 2010, 4:50:03 PM6/8/10
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Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
including the updates that go with them? ..

Ǝиçεl

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Jun 8, 2010, 5:25:19 PM6/8/10
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Hello sherlockomes,

you might want to look at the following kb article to see if this will help
with the error 80070643.

<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070643>
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Hope this helps, if not wait for more responses, please


Ǝиçεl
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 8, 2010, 5:54:07 PM6/8/10
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First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
after doing so:

How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187

If no joy, see...

When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

Then proceed per the following:

=====================

Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones
you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.

IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2006/05/30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.

Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
updates offered.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

sherlockomes

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Jun 8, 2010, 8:17:29 PM6/8/10
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Thanks for info..Followed link and used repair tool for .NET Framework then
tried to re-install update with no success.I took a chance and just
un-installed the .NET 1.1 framework from add/remove programmes which also
removed all the previous 1.1 Framework fixes with it.I then re-installed it
via wndows updates with success.I restarted computer and then checked for
windows updates as normal which included KB979906 and it installed perfectly
without any errors.The earlier hotfixes did not appear as necessary updates
so i can only imagine they are now no longer required as KB979906 perhaps
incorporates all necessary fixes but i am only guessing.
Luckily i did not have to uninstall all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
3.5 and reinstall them which would be a long process but the quick
alternative worked ok for me (so far)....

TruckerHarley

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Jun 9, 2010, 8:51:51 AM6/9/10
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Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people .Net
not working.

It seems these two are causing the problems:

KB979909
KB982168

We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
what's going on.

> .
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 9, 2010, 12:05:36 PM6/9/10
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What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
Who knows why but only you can fix it.

See my previous reply or...

See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909

For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
(1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).

Or you can...

Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
can visit the following page for assistance:
https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.

Susan Bradley

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Jun 9, 2010, 2:11:44 PM6/9/10
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It's .net. They barf. Their "servicing" process sucks. There's no way
to predict what machines may have patching issues or not. You just have
to be ready when .NET has updates.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 9, 2010, 7:20:31 PM6/9/10
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No need to preach to the bass section of the choir, m'dear...

unclemikenebr

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Jun 9, 2010, 7:53:17 PM6/9/10
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Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
Mike

> .
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Harry Johnston [MVP]

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Jun 9, 2010, 8:12:10 PM6/9/10
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On 2010-06-10 11:53 a.m., unclemikenebr wrote:

> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?

... I wasn't aware that anybody had. :-)

Harry.

>>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article& see if the update will install


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Harry Johnston
http://harryjohnston.wordpress.com

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 9, 2010, 8:45:07 PM6/9/10
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[Another county heard from...]

Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed:
http://gawker.com/5559346/apples-worst-security-breach-114000-ipad-owners-exposed


unclemikenebr wrote:
> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?

<snip>

Melville@discussions.microsoft.com R. Melville

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Jun 10, 2010, 10:47:05 AM6/10/10
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Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first time I
have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).

It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.

As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed that
the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE of
these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
the first place!

remdds

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Jun 10, 2010, 12:13:47 PM6/10/10
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Same problem here on my PC. The MS TS email response I got was (basically
the same- just trying to complete the info contained in this post for all
those who come after):


The issue can be caused by a damaged .NET Framework component. At this time,
please refer to the following steps to troubleshoot this issue.

Step 1: Remove .NET Framework using removal tool

================================

1. Please download the tool from the following link:

http://cid-27e6a35d1a492af7.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Blog_Tools/dotnetfx_cleanup_tool.zip
[Please Note: The third-party product discussed here is manufactured by a
company that is independent of Microsoft. We make no warranty, implied or
otherwise, regarding this product's performance or reliability. ]

2. Please save the zip file (dotnetfx_cleanup_tool.zip) from the above link
to the local Desktop and extract it.

3. Double click cleanup_tool.exe to run the tool.

4. Please follow the instructions given.

In the "Product to cleanup:" box, please select ".NET Framework – All
versions".

5. Click "Cleanup Now" button.

6. Restart the computer.

After performing these steps, please move on to the following suggestions
to reinstall .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0 and their updates.


Step 2: Install .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0, and their updates

============================================

Please download and install the following updates in order.

Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package

http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/6/7/567758a3-759e-473e-bf8f-52154438565a/dotnetfx.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1

http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/b/4/8b4addd8-e957-4dea-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 Security Update(KB979906)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/C/0/A/C0A1E629-29B7-4B77-B43B-22631E81AD0C/NDP1.1sp1-KB979906-X86.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2

http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/6/e/c6e88215-0178-4c6c-b5f3-158ff77b1f38/NetFx20SP2_x86.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows
2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/0/1/A01064A3-CAB0-4851-9C54-56A980FF00EB/NDP20SP2-KB974417-x86.exe

Note: When the "File Download" window appears, please click "Save", and
follow the directions to save the file on the Desktop. After downloading all
the setup files, please double-click on each one to install them.

MowGreen

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Jun 10, 2010, 1:45:00 PM6/10/10
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Programs and applications that were installed by the OEM or you have
installed require the .NET Framework in order for them to function.
ATI's Catalyst Control Center and Quicken are 2 such apps/programs
amongst many others.


MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 10, 2010, 1:58:39 PM6/10/10
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You're welcome & thanks for your feedback.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 10, 2010, 1:58:25 PM6/10/10
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That fix method will only make matters worse if .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) is
installed & removed!

stock51

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Jun 10, 2010, 2:59:46 PM6/10/10
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Had to run this same scenario last October for KB953297. It gets irritating
to have to run this time consuming fix again in less than 1 year. Would like
to underline the word irritating.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

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j_65_uk

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Jun 10, 2010, 4:34:34 PM6/10/10
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I run a network of over 200 machines and use WSUS to deploy our
Windows/Microsoft patches. Since patch tuesday (2 days ago) kb979906
kb979909 were approved and sent out to all machines.

We now have 68 (and increasing) machines all showing errors trying to
install those two patches!!

A full removal of .net is simply not an option so this is very
frustrating - I'll watch this thread with interest...

J:confused:


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Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com

sherlockomes

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Jun 10, 2010, 9:03:45 PM6/10/10
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Hi j: I started this thread looking for an answer and although i recommend
PA BEAR [MS MVP]'s solution of complete removal and intallation of all the
.NET Frameworks in correct prescibed order as being safest method, i took a
risky shortcut (as i always do) and just uninstalled the .NET 1.1 Framework
alone and then just reinstalled it again as i am a bit lazy.I was very
pleased when i checked for updates the problem KB979906 was there and
installed perfectly without a hitch.I have had no problems since then
(although it is early days). I think the problem is that the .NET 1.1
Framework has become corrupt with all the fixes and patches so a simple
re-installation does the trick.
I hope you could maybe try this as an option for all your computers but
don't blame me if it is unsuccessful. I am practical but no computer buff. It
is worth a try though if your only other alternative is complete removal /
re-installation of all .NETs. on all 200 machines. cheers S...omes

"j_65_uk" wrote:

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Tiletron

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Jun 11, 2010, 1:47:41 PM6/11/10
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I'm afraid that solution won't work for me. I've had my machine for less than
two years from Dell and it's the second time it's had this corruption - the
only way to fix it was to backup my stuff and reinstall everything...

I suspect this problem is never really going to go away, simply because it's
the way Dell fiddle with the OS so their hardware can work! Isn't there just
a simple direct-download link for this file like everything else?

Katapaltes

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Jun 11, 2010, 3:03:58 PM6/11/10
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@PA Bear,
That was an AT&T vulnerability, not an Apple vulnerability as originally
reported.

@Harry,
Yeah, people are switching - or simply buying Macs to begin with -
especially students. I run Hackintosh on all my home PCs for better
performance than I can get with Windows 7.

I'm also having the problem described in this thread, and as of Patch
Tuesday, I now have three patches backed up that won't install on one of my
servers. Thanks to all who've posted here.
-Katapaltes

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 11, 2010, 5:33:34 PM6/11/10
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What solution? Without quoting the post you're replying to, who knows what
your talking about?

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jun 11, 2010, 5:33:00 PM6/11/10
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If the shoe fits, ...

Bickford Schmeckler

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Jun 11, 2010, 5:52:39 PM6/11/10
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The HoopleHeads are on the loose!

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:exBQ33aC...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: What solution? Without quoting the post you're replying to, who knows

:


etnadian

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Jun 11, 2010, 6:13:55 PM6/11/10
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Ok, I am going to post this alternative in hopes that it works for someone
else:
Download the manual install file from:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=5e55ee58-f00a-4237-bddc-492b63a18b96
Save the file then shutdown all programs (IM Programs like MSN and Yahoo,
Outlook, etc) that access the internet. Next turn off ALL internet
communications and disable the wi-fi.
Run the downloaded program and it should install without incident.
Worked for me & I didn't have to reinstall the .NET framework.

(I hope this solves the problem, I can not begin to say how much all of you
have helped me in the past, so this is me trying to give a little back)

Rizgar

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Jun 11, 2010, 7:33:42 PM6/11/10
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Hei
jeg har det samme probleme

"Sherlockomes" skrev:

> Kjører: Windows XP Media Center Edition SP3
> Har forsøkt installere KB979906 et par ganger og også ned oppdatering
> Manuelt, men ikke kan installere denne oppdateringen. Motta feilen 0x643.Is det trygt å
> Avinstallere. NET Framework 1.1 og re-installer som muligens korrupt, uten
> Å måtte avinstallere / re-installere alle andre. NET rammeverk 2, 3 og 3,5
> Inkludert oppdateringer som går med dem? ..

bkmmd

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Jun 13, 2010, 7:36:38 AM6/13/10
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Here's what works for me, and how I got there. Note that I'm a mac user, and
don't have the patience for the long drawn up fixes.

A long time ago, I ran into a similar problem. An old version of Norton
Utilities found a several missing files in the .Net installations. I copied
these files from backups, ran the updaters, and everything seemed to work. I
also saved a copy of the missing files in case the problem recurred. It did.

This time around, here's what was missing from my installation:
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\_dataperfcounters.h

In the past, other files that have disappeared include
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\CORPerfMonSymbols.h

After copying these files over, I ran Windows update, and the patch worked
this time.

Your results may vary.

bkmmd

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JohnD-H

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Jun 20, 2010, 11:54:43 AM6/20/10
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I'm using XP Pro SP3. I've got the same KB979906 won't install problem.
I've downloaded a copy of the .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 file, dotnetfx.exe.
If I uninstall .NET Framework 1.1 using the Add or Remove Programs function
in Control Panel, and then run this dotnetfx.exe file, is that what you are
describing you have done that worked?
Thanks for your help.


"SJM" wrote:

> OS - XP Home. I tried the "lazy" solution..worked like a charm. I'd say try
> this before going the whole hog on .Net ..cheers!

SJM

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Jun 20, 2010, 11:54:43 AM6/20/10
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OS - XP Home. I tried the "lazy" solution..worked like a charm. I'd say try
this before going the whole hog on .Net ..cheers!
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