Information Please On Latest WGA Update
bobang
before new update is applied?.
I guess I must have been one of the lucky users, as I've had no problems
with WGA validation tool, or WGA notification,however, on checking, I
find I'm running WGA notification version 1.5.0526.0,and WGA validation
tool version 1.5.0530, is there really any need for me to change when
I'm trouble free, "why fix what aint broke"?
Cheer's Bo.
Michael Jennings
is a way of uninstalling the old version. If it's necessary to
uninstall the old version *without* installing the new version,
then Microsoft has furnished a procedure to do that:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914/en-us
I don't blame you for being nervous, but the thing is going to
change from time to time, and the new version seems better.
"bobang" <bob...@nogo.ca> wrote in message news:%23XnbJPm...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Alias
> The documentation indicates that updating to the new version
> is a way of uninstalling the old version. If it's necessary to
> uninstall the old version *without* installing the new version,
> then Microsoft has furnished a procedure to do that:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914/en-us
>
> I don't blame you for being nervous, but the thing is going to
> change from time to time, and the new version seems better.
Better at what? Making XP run smoothly?
Alias
Michael Jennings
home seldom, and has a straight, non-beta EULA is better than the
test update that preceded it: The test was programmed to make more
mess, call home incessantly, and had a tricky beta EULA. For these
reasons, those who want this update should move to the new one.
The update's function is to shame users with softlifted Windows into
coughing up for this Microsoft operating system they're using. If you
do not approve of this, or think Microsoft is lying about respecting
your privacy, as it is about the program being uninstallable, reject it.
It's sort of like going to the circus - if a few kids sneak under the tent
without buying tickets, it's not that big of a deal. If 90% of the crowd
has done that, the circus needs to do something about the tent flaps.
Scroll to the end of this thread to see the 90% stolen response to Alias:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_thread/thread/bff1814b0e8bc0e6/b16e7d88bac8d69f?q=Windows+Genuine+Advantage+Notification+(Windows+Update+%23KB905474)+says...&hl=en
Outlook Express users can view the post via this news link:
news:1151467721.8...@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com
"Alias" <n...@aol.org> wrote in message news:erVLHgpm...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
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"Alias" <n...@aol.org> wrote in message
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Alias
> The latest KB905474 which is programmed to make less mess, call
> home seldom, and has a straight, non-beta EULA is better than the
> test update that preceded it:
But it doesn't do *anything* to improve XP or the user's experience and
can lead to problems.
> The test was programmed to make more
> mess, call home incessantly, and had a tricky beta EULA. For these
> reasons, those who want this update should move to the new one.
I was tricked into install the first one. I have researched MS'
instructions on how to remove it and the instructions are flawed. So, if
I want my computer to be WGA SPYWARE free, I need to reformat and
reinstall Windows. Of course, the day may come when it will be required,
not optional, to get updates.
>
> The update's function is to shame users with softlifted Windows into
> coughing up for this Microsoft operating system they're using. If you
> do not approve of this, or think Microsoft is lying about respecting
> your privacy, as it is about the program being uninstallable, reject it.
>
This is BS. A pirated copy can be set to AU with download but let me
install and the pirated copy can continue to be used with all the bona
fide critical updates. The people who do download WGA SPYWARE think they
have a legit copy and usually do. As has been posted here and elsewhere,
legit copies get flagged as pirated copies. In addition, MS has NO right
to insist that its paying customers be the police. If MS thinks they are
being stolen from, the should call the police or FBI, not act like THEY
are the police or FBI.
> It's sort of like going to the circus - if a few kids sneak under the tent
> without buying tickets, it's not that big of a deal. If 90% of the crowd
> has done that, the circus needs to do something about the tent flaps.
It's more like Big Brother forcing paying customers to fix the flaps.
Alias
Alias
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914
Flawed and very complicated instructions. No thanks. I will reformat
first. I know how to do that right.
Note that there are no instructions for the latest WGA SPYWARE as it is
uninstallable.
Alias
Michael Jennings
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> The latest KB905474 which is programmed to make less mess, call
>> home seldom, and has a straight, non-beta EULA is better than the
>> test update that preceded it:
>
> But it doesn't do *anything* to improve XP or the user's experience and
> can lead to problems.
>
>> The test was programmed to make more
>> mess, call home incessantly, and had a tricky beta EULA. For these
>> reasons, those who want this update should move to the new one.
>
> I was tricked into install the first one. I have researched MS'
> instructions on how to remove it and the instructions are flawed. So, if
> I want my computer to be WGA SPYWARE free, I need to reformat and
> reinstall Windows. Of course, the day may come when it will be required,
> not optional, to get updates.
KB905474-Uninstaller.exe will get rid of it. Worked for me last night.
Find it at http://patch-info.de/WinXP/2006/06/07/05-47-32.html
Alias
Just what I want to do, spend my time uninstalling spyware. Besides, I
can't read German.
Alias
Michael Jennings
http://patch-info.de/WinXP/Downloads/KB905474-Uninstaller.exe
Alias
Thanks, but I will reformat this weekend, not just because of WGA but
for other reasons as well.
Alias
Michael Jennings
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> "Alias" <n...@aol.org> wrote in message news:eqjfhCtm...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <n...@aol.org> wrote in message news:Oxxrcosm...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> reinstall Windows. Of course, the day may come when it will be required,
>>>>> not optional, to get updates.
>>>> KB905474-Uninstaller.exe will get rid of it. Worked for me last night.
>>>> Find it at http://patch-info.de/WinXP/2006/06/07/05-47-32.html
>>> Just what I want to do, spend my time uninstalling spyware. Besides, I
>>> can't read German.
>> http://patch-info.de/WinXP/Downloads/KB905474-Uninstaller.exe
>
> Thanks, but I will reformat this weekend, not just because of WGA but
> for other reasons as well.
Notifications seems to hobble connecting, so it's best not to install it, I think.
They'll remind me when they further improve it - I can see if it's better then.
I recommend quickening the inevitable clean installations by buying imaging:
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/advanced/image-clone.html
bobang
wait for the dust to settle before venturing into the "WGA PIT" again.
Cheer's Bo.
miken...@yahoo.com
uninstalling the pilot version? It specifies three registry deletions.
The first two are identical and the third does not exist:
10. Locate and then right-click the following registry subkeys. Click
Delete after you locate each subkey.·
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\
CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\WgaLogon
· HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\
CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\WgaLogon
· HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
\CurrentVersion\removeremove\WgaNotify (there is a WgaNotify entry but
not in "removeremove". There is no "\removeremove\")
Also, in step 8 it tells you to delete two files that won't be deleted,
Wgatray.exe and Wgalogon.dll because you renamed them in step 3. Is
this bulletin BS or am I missing something? Or is it just my PC, which
is running XP Pro with all updates except the new version of WGA?
Peabody
meta...@gmail.com says...
> The documentation indicates that updating to the new
> version is a way of uninstalling the old version. If
> it's necessary to uninstall the old version *without*
> installing the new version, then Microsoft has furnished
> a procedure to do that: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/
> 921914/en-us
>> I find I'm running WGA notification version
>> 1.5.0526.0,and WGA validation tool version 1.5.0530
Please note that the OP is running version 526 of
Notifications, as am I. But KB921914 specifically states that
it's uninstall instructions apply only to versions beginning
with 527.
Do the same instructions work for 526? If not, how does one
uninstall 526?
I've been trying to get an official answer to this for a couple
days now, but can't. Anybody know?
Peabody
ps.com>, miken...@yahoo.com says...
> Has anyone successfully followed the Microsoft procedure
> for uninstalling the pilot version? It specifies three
> registry deletions. The first two are identical and the
> third does not exist:
> 10. Locate and then right-click the following registry
> subkeys. Click Delete after you locate each subkey.·
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\
> CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\WgaLogon
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\
> CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\WgaLogon
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> \CurrentVersion\removeremove\WgaNotify
> (there is a WgaNotify entry but not in "removeremove".
> There is no "\removeremove\")
I'm pretty sure "removeremove" is really "Uninstall". But
of course, I could be wrong. After all, not being an
official Microsoft person, I don't know all the inside
lingo.
And yes, the first two look indentical to me too.
> Also, in step 8 it tells you to delete two files that
> won't be deleted, Wgatray.exe and Wgalogon.dll because
> you renamed them in step 3.
Yep. There is also the question of what you do with the
copies of these files in the system32\dllcache folder.
> Is this bulletin BS or am I missing something?
This is called failure to proof your work, to make sure it's
right, before publishing it.
I would add the problem I've posted about in other messages
- this KB article doesn't appear to cover the version
installed on my computer, v1.5.526. Says it only covers
versions beginning with 527. Well, you know, that's
probably BS too, but I just wish I could get some one to
officially confirm that.
How time flies when you're having fun.
Michael Jennings
No one official has answered. I am merely a user, so not official.
I did respond to your new message:
MS uninstall info for pilot WGA Notifications updated 6/30, but...
I suggested that if you were unwilling to try a couple ways to get
an official response, that you prepare and experiment.