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ALLAN (DK)

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Jan 30, 2007, 5:39:00 PM1/30/07
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Yes why wount WMP 11 add the album art, that i manualy add with A.T.E to my
songs..?
When i try to add the album art to the files, then the files gets alittle
bit bigger, like it has added the album art proberly. But then when i
transfer the songs to my PSP, then the songs dossent show the art for each
number. Why..?

Did this many times with the WMP 9 and there i had no problems of this kind.

Please post a repley if u know the anwser....!

Dale

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Jan 30, 2007, 7:22:01 PM1/30/07
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Well, how about if I post a reply and don't know the answer but want to help
you find the answer? :)

If you open the tracks in ATE after adding the album art, does ATE show that
the track still has art? If so, then the art has been successfully embedded
into the file.

Another test is to open the track in Apple iTunes. Set iTunes to display
album art. Does the artwork show? iTunes only displays embedded art. If
the art shows in iTunes, then WMP correctly added the art.

As another test, locate another random image on your hard drive that is not
the correct album art but do not copy it. Just identify the location. Using
ATE, delete any existing album art that shows in the track and save your
changes. Now open the file again in ATE and add the image that you selected
that is NOT the correct album art. Be sure to add the image from its current
location. Again, save your changes. Now, play the track in WMP 11. If WMP
11 shows the wrong art - the one you added intentionally - then again, you
have proven that the album art is in the track.

The next question is, does PSP play the track correctly? Does it correctly
display the proper artist, track name, and album name?

Hmmmm. I wonder if the album art is too small in WMP 11? *chuckling*

Try those tests and answer the questions and get back to us.

HTH,

Dale
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Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA

Dale

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Jan 30, 2007, 7:46:00 PM1/30/07
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Skip the iTunes test on the WMA files. iTunes won't play those.

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MCSE, MCDBA

ALLAN (DK)

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Jan 30, 2007, 8:02:00 PM1/30/07
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Thanks for replying Dale:0) I wil get back to you with some anwsers tomorov
(tursday night)

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 1, 2007, 1:13:01 PM2/1/07
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Hey again Dale...# :0)

I have been trying alot of things relatet to the album art in WMP11 and what
i found out of,
was that my libary was a mix of WMA and MP3 albums.
Witch ment that i had been trying to add album art to my WMA files witch is
halfway possible.
I can add the art to the WMA files/songs so it will show in the libary in
WMP11 but not show the art in the file/song info on my PSP for the specific
song. I dont know why my PSP wount show WMA album art for the specific song.
Proberly something to do with file format. Who knows..?

Then i found out that i CAN add album art to my MP3 files, so it will show
in the WMP11 libary and very importent also show the art in the specific song
info on my PSP.
But for my PSP to show the art for each song then i have to be very carefull
at witch JPEGS i choose. The JPEG cant be over 300x300, if so then it will
only show the art in the WMP11 libary and not in the specific song info on my
PSP.

So now i "only" have to rip all my cd`s all over again but this time im
gonna rip them to MP3. **** that sucks.
Let me see, i have 300 cd´s that i have to rip all over again. If we say
that each cd takes around 10 min. to rip then it will take around 3000 min.
to rip them all and if you the divide 3000 by 60 then you will get the number
of houres i`ll have to be ripping.
The number of houres is......50. Arrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh what a drag.

By the way...if you know why WMA files wount show art on the PSP then please
write a little post....!

Ps: Im never gonna use the WMA format for anything in the future.

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 1, 2007, 3:20:01 PM2/1/07
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Hey again, and again Dale...# :0)

Arrrgghhh i thought i had cracked the problem, but noooooo....!

Your Q:


If you open the tracks in ATE after adding the album art, does ATE show that
the track still has art?

My anwser:
Sometimes it dosent show the album art i just tryed to add.
Sometimes it only adds the album art to some of the songs, even though i
tryed to add album art to all the songs, in one go.
Sometimes it adds 3 or more album arts to 1 song even though i had selectet
all the songs in the album.

Your Q:


As another test, locate another random image on your hard drive that is not
the correct album art but do not copy it. Just identify the location. Using
ATE, delete any existing album art that shows in the track and save your
changes. Now open the file again in ATE and add the image that you selected
that is NOT the correct album art. Be sure to add the image from its current
location. Again, save your changes. Now, play the track in WMP 11. If WMP
11 shows the wrong art - the one you added intentionally - then again, you
have proven that the album art is in the track.

My anwser:
It shows the wrong art in the libary when i do that and also when i play the
songs in WMP11.
But if i then transfer the files with the wrong art to my PSP then the art
is not shown in the specific fil info and that is what i would like it to do.
(Did it many many times with the WMP9.)

I have no problem in getting the WMP11 to show the album art in the media
libary or when i am playing the songs/Mp3`s in the WMP11. Insted my problem
in to get the art embedded into each fil, so it will be shown when i transfer
the songs to my PSP.

Dale

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Feb 1, 2007, 4:16:00 PM2/1/07
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"ALLAN (DK)" wrote:

> Hey again, and again Dale...# :0)
>
> Arrrgghhh i thought i had cracked the problem, but noooooo....!
>
> Your Q:
> If you open the tracks in ATE after adding the album art, does ATE show that
> the track still has art?
>
> My anwser:
> Sometimes it dosent show the album art i just tryed to add.
> Sometimes it only adds the album art to some of the songs, even though i
> tryed to add album art to all the songs, in one go.
> Sometimes it adds 3 or more album arts to 1 song even though i had selectet
> all the songs in the album.

The reason you get more than one is this: You have album art embedded in a
track and then you include that track in a multiple selection. You look at
the pictures tab in ATE and it will show no art even though some of the
individual tracks do have art. Had you opened the tracks with art
individually, the art would have been shown in ATE. Now, you add more art to
the whole group at once so the ones that had no art now have one. The ones
that had one art now have two, and so on.

Try adding the album art, one at a time, to some of those that aren't
getting art at all. What happens then?


>
> Your Q:
> As another test, locate another random image on your hard drive that is not
> the correct album art but do not copy it. Just identify the location. Using
> ATE, delete any existing album art that shows in the track and save your
> changes. Now open the file again in ATE and add the image that you selected
> that is NOT the correct album art. Be sure to add the image from its current
> location. Again, save your changes. Now, play the track in WMP 11. If WMP
> 11 shows the wrong art - the one you added intentionally - then again, you
> have proven that the album art is in the track.
>
> My anwser:
> It shows the wrong art in the libary when i do that and also when i play the
> songs in WMP11.
> But if i then transfer the files with the wrong art to my PSP then the art
> is not shown in the specific fil info and that is what i would like it to do.
> (Did it many many times with the WMP9.)
>
> I have no problem in getting the WMP11 to show the album art in the media
> libary or when i am playing the songs/Mp3`s in the WMP11. Insted my problem
> in to get the art embedded into each fil, so it will be shown when i transfer
> the songs to my PSP.

Again, try adding the art one at a time, just as a test.

Dale

Dale

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Feb 1, 2007, 4:23:01 PM2/1/07
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"ALLAN (DK)" wrote:

> Hey again Dale...# :0)
>

<snip>

> But for my PSP to show the art for each song then i have to be very carefull
> at witch JPEGS i choose. The JPEG cant be over 300x300, if so then it will
> only show the art in the WMP11 libary and not in the specific song info on my
> PSP.

Perhaps the Windows Media Player will take your experience into
consideration and at least increase the album art size in WMP to 300x300
rather than 200x200.

>
> So now i "only" have to rip all my cd`s all over again but this time im
> gonna rip them to MP3. **** that sucks.
> Let me see, i have 300 cd´s that i have to rip all over again. If we say
> that each cd takes around 10 min. to rip then it will take around 3000 min.
> to rip them all and if you the divide 3000 by 60 then you will get the number
> of houres i`ll have to be ripping.
> The number of houres is......50. Arrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh what a drag.

It depends on how picky you are. I would have to do it like you said - and
my ears aren't good enough to know the difference. Others would use
available programs - I don't know what they are but I'm sure someone will
fill in the blank - to convert WMAs to MP3s. It may be possible, were your
WMAs all lossless compression, to get best quality MP3s but I don't know
about that. I do know that converting lossy-compressed WMA to MP3 will add
distortion upon distortion - not good.


>
> By the way...if you know why WMA files wount show art on the PSP then please
> write a little post....!

I wish I could help. I don't have a game console of any kind.

>
> Ps: Im never gonna use the WMA format for anything in the future.

While other intelligent people may disagree, I agree with you. I have no
WMA in my collection and will not as long as I can avoid it. And to help
avoid it, I keep one Windows XP PC completely off of the Internet and will
always keep it off the Internet. I don't even let it do security patches.
It will stay at SP2 security patch forever and ever. As long as that lasts,
I will be able to play my music on my network.


ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 3, 2007, 7:07:00 AM2/3/07
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Dale i will get back to you as soon as i can but i have to go to my nieceses
birthday and therefor i prob. wount be able to anwser you before sunday night.

But again, Totaly great that you take the time out to anwser me.:0)

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 5, 2007, 12:06:01 PM2/5/07
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Your Q:

Try adding the album art, one at a time, to some of those that aren't
> getting art at all. What happens then?

My anwser: (long anwser:0)
Hi dale..!
I took an album and tjekked all the songs one at the time for art in ATE an
on the PSP.
None of them had art.

Then i tryed to add art to all the songs in one go.

The processbar came up and it looked like all of them got the art.

But when i tjekked/moved the songs on the PSP, then only the first song got
the art.

Then i re-tjekked the songs in ATE to see witch songs had gotten the art
after i tried to add art, to all of them in one go.

The ATE showed the same as my PSP, namely that only the first song had
gotten the art after i tried to add art to all the songs in one go.

Then i tried to add the art to one song at the time and that worked.:0)
(songs that haddent got the art the first time)

So now i think, that i know how to get the art into the songs.
But only one song at the time.:0(

But can that be right..? That i only will be able to add art to one song at
the time..?
If so, then its gonna be a long day, when i diside to add the art to my
albums/songs...:0)

Again and Again and Again and Again thanks for helping..:0)

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 5, 2007, 7:07:01 PM2/5/07
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My anwser: (long anwser:0)
Hi dale..!
I took an album and tjekked all the songs one at the time for art in ATE an
on the PSP.
None of them had art.

Then i tryed to add art to all the songs in one go.

The processbar came up and it looked like all of them got the art.

But when i tjekked/moved the songs on the PSP, then only the first song got
the art.

Then i re-tjekked the songs in ATE to see witch songs had gotten the art
after i tried to add art, to all of them in one go.

The ATE showed the same as my PSP, namely that only the first song had
gotten the art after i tried to add art to all the songs in one go.

Then i tried to add the art to one song at the time (as you said i should
do) and that worked.:0)

So now i think, that i know how to get the art into the songs.
But only one song at the time.:0(

But can that be right..? That i only will be able to add art to one song at
the time..?

If so, then its gonna be a long day, when i deside to add the art to my
albums/songs...:0)

Again and Again and Again and Again thanks for helping..:0)

Dale

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Feb 5, 2007, 11:50:01 PM2/5/07
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This may be a change in WMP 11. I am certain that opening multiple tracks in
ATE with WMP 10 and adding album art there will add the album art to all
those files at once.

I wonder if it has anything to do with losing the list section that was at
the left of ATE in WMP 10 and is nowhere to be found in WMP 11.

If what you say is correct then I say, yes, sadly, ATE does seem to have
changed in WMP 11 and that change is for the worse.

I'll have to do some more testing in ATE for WMP 11 when I get home this
weekend.

Dale
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Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 6, 2007, 11:04:01 AM2/6/07
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Hi Dale...!
So would you recommend that i uninstalled WMP 11 and then installed WMP 9 or
10 to get the job done quikly and then when i was done with adding art to all
my albums, reinstall WMP 11...?
Or do you think that, there will be an update in that area some time soon in
the future..?
If so, then im just gonna wait.

Ps: Do not know about that, list thing, because i changed from WMP 9 to 11.
Didn`t like 10.

Thanks..:0)

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 6, 2007, 2:46:00 PM2/6/07
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Arrgghh the problems just keep on comming.
After i tried to do as you said, then it looked like, that WMP11 only would
let you add art to one song at the time. (when i before hand had tjekked the
individual song for art) This worked a couppel of times, the song only got 1
art into it and when i moved the song over to my PSP the i also showed the
art. Great i thourght.:0)
But then suddenly when i tried to add art to some more songs, one song at
the time.(had tjekked the songs for art before hand), then it to added 3
pieces of art to that single song i was working with. Wierd...!

Then later i moved a album over to my PSP and the songs had art but i was
pretty shure that i had tjekked the songs in ATE earlier and when i did that
the ATE showed no art inthe songs.
So therefor i moved the songs with the art back over to my pc and tjekked
ATE for art in each song and to my supprise the songs HAD art embedded into
them even though i dident showed up in ATE.

So all in all. I really cant make out ANY kind of red thread in the Art
feature that WMP has.

Some times it does, Some times it does not, Some times it does it times 3,
Some times it does it in a random way and i could go on and on.

So therefor i just have to say...I GIVE UP...and switch to another player
from another company.

ALLAN (DK)

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Feb 7, 2007, 4:06:01 PM2/7/07
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Aaahhhhhhhhh changed to WinAmp Player.......What a bliss.

zeeman

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Aug 31, 2007, 2:28:01 PM8/31/07
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Hey allen,

i am having the same problem but with my sansa e260 mp3 player. Got the
album art in WMP11 but when i sync the art does not, only the song. Did you
get this figured out?...Thanks

ALLAN (DK)

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Sep 1, 2007, 7:18:00 AM9/1/07
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Hi mate...! Well the main prob. that i was having was to add. art to more
than 1 file in one go. That i havent been alble to do as yet. But one file at
the time is no problem, so if you, like me, want album art in every song,
then you`ll have to add. the album art one song at the time. #:0( I know this
sucks, there is no oyher way if you want to be shure that the album art have
been added to your songs, without you having to go back and tjek every song
again.

Hope it helps, otherwise write again...#:0)

zeeman

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Sep 1, 2007, 5:10:01 PM9/1/07
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So your saying just sync one song at a time and that should work?

Thanks for your response.

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