Suggestions for a better WMP11
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into artless albums only affects the first song so that it looks funny when
playing with album art view on.
2. Dragging songs into an album would cause the songs to assume the identity
of the album like it did in WMP10. So that albums that are split into two
because of differences in tags can be merged into one easily without editting
each wrong tag.
3. Advanced Tag Editor should be able to edit year. It's frustrating to use
a 3rd party tag editor just so that the year is no longer displayed as
unknown under the sort by year.
zachd [MSFT]
Items 1 and 2 are to my knowledge bugs that will be fixed.
Item 3 as a request has been passed on to the right people. You can also
directly edit that in the library, though, too.
-Zach
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Romane
This thread appears to be the best place to begin, perhaps, a list of
feedbacks, rather than creating endless other threads, so will add my own
small peeve here :)
Media Player 10 used to remember the track I was on when I shut down the
Player, and I could go straight to the "Now Playing" tab to recommence just
by pressing "Play". Media Player 11 not only seems to forget the track, but
going to the "Now Playing" tab is also blank, necessitating a frustrating
trip to the "Library" tab (where it at least seems to remember the album).
Romane
Cyaneyes
I start the player, I have to go back into the library and drag the item into
the Now Playing playlist. All I had to do with WMP 10 was click play. I hope
this feature regression is fixed for the final version of 11.
Hammy
thought I'd throw in a few things:
Video metadata right now is hard to use. Video doesn't have an advanced tag
editor like music so its a bit tougher to set the actual metadata. What's
even more frustrating is trying to USE that metadata.
Lets say I want to stack my videos by actor. If I do that, the entire Actors
line eg: "Tom Hanks, Gweneth Paltrow, Your Mom, My Mom" is stacked. What I'm
really looking for is Tom Hanks movies but unless each video has the same
actors line as another, they'll be in different stacks.
In addition, if you try make the Actors line have this format :
"Actor1,Actor2,Actor3", you can't use the search box on top because it
doesn't search inside the string, just from the beginning. What's really
needed is an Advanced Tag Editor so we can actually create actor "Identities"
so search understands that "Tom Hanks,Your Mom" is not one actor name but
actually two separate ones.
Also the search box right now doesn't search through the keywords attribute
automatically. WHy would I want a keyword if I can't search it? Perhaps
creating "tags" for each file would work better.
Also this is sorta a Vista issue but the built in Vista search should search
metadata that's been set in WMP. Again, why would I want metadata if I can't
search it?
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and it's rather annoying to have start all over when I close WMP.
neutralizer
addressing issues. Thanks for making WMP my preferred player (although WMP's
library support is way better than iTunes or Winamp).
Another issue I have right now is that the change in how skins are
supported. My favorite skin (because it's so small and fits nicely in the
title bar of any application), SleekMPXP does not work properly under WMP11
as the buttons are skinned differently from the background. Is there a way to
support the old skins properly?
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that fact that WMP11 has to monitor a folder in add things. I don't like
WMP11 to add all the music in my music library just my complete albums. I'd
like a similar feature like in WMP10 where I can turn off monitoring and
manually add files or folders to the library.
Mike Williams
> Since this thread seems to be where people are suggesting a better WMP11 I
> thought I'd throw in a few things:
>
> Video metadata right now is hard to use. Video doesn't have an advanced tag
> editor like music so its a bit tougher to set the actual metadata. What's
> even more frustrating is trying to USE that metadata.
>
> Lets say I want to stack my videos by actor. If I do that, the entire Actors
> line eg: "Tom Hanks, Gweneth Paltrow, Your Mom, My Mom" is stacked. What I'm
> really looking for is Tom Hanks movies but unless each video has the same
> actors line as another, they'll be in different stacks.
>
> In addition, if you try make the Actors line have this format :
> "Actor1,Actor2,Actor3", you can't use the search box on top because it
> doesn't search inside the string, just from the beginning. What's really
> needed is an Advanced Tag Editor so we can actually create actor "Identities"
> so search understands that "Tom Hanks,Your Mom" is not one actor name but
> actually two separate ones.
WMP uses ; rather than , as a metadata delimiter.
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
I tend to agree that the wordwheel is over-hyped (and ripped off from
iTunes, which ripped it off from numerous sources).
There's a new query interface available from scripting for WMP11,
which is worth reading about, you can create compound queries of the
type you describe using "and" & "or" conditions :
http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms748457.aspx
I wouldn't be surprised if it's something in the works, or something
that can be added through an "extended search" plugin or skin (though
skins are deprecated, so probably it'd be a plugin)
Cheers - Neil
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Hammy
would be easier still though
Hammy
Neil,
Ya the current word wheel is inconsistent at best. I like having a live
search but I also want it to "just work". The idea of a more powerful search
plugin would be nice for the power user but the average joe won't want to go
through that hassle. Considering how much progress has been made with ease of
use in WMP11 it'd be unfortunate for it to be wasted with such a key portion
of the UI being a headache.
Not to get too off the subject of WMP but the fact that metadata isn't
shared between the Vista Search and Explorer and WMP11 boggles my mind. Save
the damn metadata in a way that its accessible (and searchable) by anything!
I think the lack of universal metadata is perhaps the biggest casualty of the
WinFS failure and its a shame that Microsoft seems to have decided this key
feature is so unimportant to Vista
zachd [MSFT]
That feedback has been passed on to the right people.
Generalllllly, I would probably strongly strongly prefer new threads as
opposed to responses to one master thread, as it were, since then I'm less
likely to accidentally miss new thoughts by accidentally thinking they are
simply discussions of some response. But whatever works. =)
Thanks,
-Zach
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Or if it's possible, make so that it's more easier to find. I can't
find the option to hide them anywhere.
Siim Karus
This is exactly the reason why I wrote my own metadata editor (not finished
though): http://www.hot.ee/siim04/index.html?sub=english.html#eng_WMAE . The
next step would be creating media player which could actually make decent use of
the metadata. I wrote the editor first as I had to manage my music and video
collection and set attributes, not shown in WMP Tag editor, for my own content.
Some WM attributes are not supported yet and the application could use a better
UI (and a manual), but I just have not had enough time to work on it (so the
features I use most are finished now). The editor also gives a clue about the
poor state of attributes supported by WMP :(.
Best wishes,
Siim Karus
zachd [MSFT]
Have the monitored folders set off to space, as it were, and that should
cover this. What you're doing is extremely atypical. You can do it by
setting the monitored folders to ignore or "pay attention to something
boring instead of the real thing", but it's not a core customer scenario. =\
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zachd [MSFT]
I only have SleekMP, MPv2, and MPv3, no XP... ?
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Mike Williams
> Have the monitored folders set off to space, as it were, and that should
> cover this. What you're doing is extremely atypical. You can do it by
> setting the monitored folders to ignore or "pay attention to something
> boring instead of the real thing", but it's not a core customer scenario. =\
>
And to add a folder/album manually you can just drag-and-drop those
tracks to the library pane. That also worked in v9 and v10. In this beta
it's also a work-around for tracks that aren't picked up by the formal
"Add to Library..." process.
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ignore. I guess I'll have to set the rip folder to something boring. It also
autocreates playlists in the rip folder too, which is pretty annoying.
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http://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=231&LibID=9&comments=1
The same problem arises in MPv3 as in XP. The buttons look completely look
different from the rest of the skin.
The problem doesn't occur in MPv2 or MP.
glenc
couple of more obvious ones...
* maybe i overlooked it but we desparately need a "return to library
button" where you can get right back to the ALBUM you are playing. even
iTunes has this.
* sort by ARTIST and secondary sort by YEAR is necessary too for those
of us who view artists work from start to finish not alphabetically.
it would allow my albums to be named propery instead of dummying the
TAGs for proper sort.
1 Texas Flood
2 Couldn't Stand the Weather
3 ....
* Year, Genre and ALbum artist from EVERY tag edit screen (explorer,
wmp11).
* add folder and a "monitor nothing" option. i don't always want to
"monitor" my rip folder (i'd like to clean up tags first thank you!
* database performance... dreadfully slow.
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option like in WMP10.
zachd [MSFT]
OK, I have it - but I don't know what I'm looking for here since all my
machines right now are WMP11 - is this a clipping color issue... ?
Comparative screen shots might be illuminative. =\
Has the skin author thought it at at all?
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should look like. Essentially the buttons should be sleek and smooth like
other SleekMP versions, but in XP, the buttons are skinned differently from
the background. No idea whether it is a clipping color issue, but WMP11
shouldn't break old skins. According to the original skin author:
"yup... its a beta..
but last time around (wmp10) they didnt break such basic things as png
support (implimentation is changed i guess) & colorization..
& they did come out with as SDK update soon afterwards..
but this time is been long time coming considering wmp11 has been in Vista
betas for some time now.."