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Mike Williams

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Jun 13, 2006, 6:38:57 PM6/13/06
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fabolousrmx wrote:
> Hello, i have over 4000 songs in my music libary, and for the longest time
> been using iTunes to organize it. I just downloded WMP11 beta and installed
> it yesterday. within itunes all of my music is correctly taged and has album
> art attached to each song. Some of my music that i edited the tags in iTunes
> falis to edit in WMP. In the windows explored they are shown to be correctly
> taged and everything but when i goto WMP it reverts back to the old name and
> stuff. Some of the album art does not even display and some are all black.
> any help?

If WMP and iTunes are both monitoring the same files then they will
fight to the death over your ID3 tags. You will be the loser.

Mike Williams

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Jun 14, 2006, 4:04:39 AM6/14/06
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fabolousrmx wrote:
> Well the windows os seems to agree with itunes. Could it be the fact that
> many of the album covers and big images or multple images?
>
> "Mike Williams" wrote:
>
>> If WMP and iTunes are both monitoring the same files then they will
>> fight to the death over your ID3 tags. You will be the loser.
>>

You've provided no information about any of this to make a diagnosis.

John Lockwood

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Jun 14, 2006, 10:40:56 AM6/14/06
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On 13/6/06 23:01, in article
25F6706F-5329-48B4...@microsoft.com, "fabolousrmx"
<fabol...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Well the windows os seems to agree with itunes. Could it be the fact that
> many of the album covers and big images or multple images?
>
> "Mike Williams" wrote:
>

>> If WMP and iTunes are both monitoring the same files then they will
>> fight to the death over your ID3 tags. You will be the loser.
>>

I have to agree with Mike in that you have not provided enough information
to diagnose this problem.

However as someone who is successfully sharing a music library between
iTunes and WMP I may be able to give you some pointers.

First, what format is your iTunes music in? MP3, AAC, AIFF, or other? This
is very important because WMP only understands tags for certain file
formats, in other cases it is possible to add a plugin to add support, in
some there is no solution at all.

Second, other than for MP3, (and possibly WMA - yech!) WMP is useless at
dealing with embedded artwork. So if you are using AAC (which can be played
in WMP and the tags for which can be read thanks to a plugin) then embedded
artwork will not work in WMP.

I am guessing, but it sounds like you are using MP3. A difficulty here is
that there have been several versions of ID3 tags (as used by MP3) and some
iTunes might accept and some WMP might accept. Hopefully there is a version
both will accept. If you look in the Advanced menu in iTunes you will see a
command called "Convert ID3 Tags..." this might help.

I personally use AAC (built-in to iTunes, and the free CoreAAC codec for
WMP) and the WMPTSE plugin to allow WMP to read MP4 tags. As I indicated
above WMP still cannot read the embedded artwork for this but it can read
track names, artists, album names, etc. I then used "Find Album Info..." in
WMP to find album art which gets saved as jpeg files in the folder
corresponding to the album.

NOTE: Regarding both iTunes and WMP monitoring the same folders. I set my
system up so that iTunes "manages" the library, and WMP does NOT reorganise
it. I also set things so that WMP does not replace existing tags.

While iTunes can store multiple artwork images per track (e.g. front and
back of a CD case) I strongly suspect 'lesser' applications may struggle
with this.

Finally remember that WMP will not be able to play tracks bought on the
iTunes Music Store even though they are in AAC format (and even though you
may have an AAC codec installed for WMP).

Cheers, John Lockwood

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