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tinaka613

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Jun 7, 2006, 3:28:01 PM6/7/06
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I have a few compilation CDs that I have burned over the years. I have
ripped them into my library and have re-tagged them manually to have the
original artist and album for each song. When I try to add album art for
each song individually, it shows the same art for all songs I ripped off that
original album, even though they are now tagged as separate albums.

When I choose "advanced tag editor" and add files to the picture tab it
saves them to the file, but it only shows the last file added for all.
Hopefully this makes sense.

I'm guessing it may be a bug that I'm just going to have to deal with, but
hoping there is a simple fix.
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Mike Williams

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Jun 7, 2006, 3:50:36 PM6/7/06
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tinaka613 wrote:
> I have a few compilation CDs that I have burned over the years. I have
> ripped them into my library and have re-tagged them manually to have the
> original artist and album for each song. When I try to add album art for
> each song individually, it shows the same art for all songs I ripped off that
> original album, even though they are now tagged as separate albums.
>
> When I choose "advanced tag editor" and add files to the picture tab it
> saves them to the file, but it only shows the last file added for all.
> Hopefully this makes sense.

Yes, it would be nice if the Album Art visualization allowed you to
treat these files like a slide-show in the Now Playing screen.

I would expect that if you had embedded art for each track, then that
would be used for the art visualization in the Now Playing screen,
changing for each track.

>
> I'm guessing it may be a bug that I'm just going to have to deal with, but
> hoping there is a simple fix.

This is a beta build, but I'm guessing that MS will not delay its June
launch to fix many of the bugs turned up here, as it will be trying to
meet deadlines for hardware and online service partners. To paraphrase,
Steve Ballmer, it's all about quality, quilaty, kwaltily,
ytqiullljkjkjkjkjjk

zachd [MSFT]

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Jun 8, 2006, 2:39:10 AM6/8/06
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The files are "joined" "mentally" via a hidden-to-you value (a CD
identifier). Since they are linked, reassociating them to other albums
won't work - they're still joined via that CD ID. You will keep having this
problem since to WMP the files belong on the same CD.

This is probably WMP being overly helpful. I'm not aware of any way to
reset those CD IDs, but the question has been raised. =\

-Zach
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zachd [MSFT]

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Jun 8, 2006, 2:49:14 AM6/8/06
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> tinaka613 wrote:
>> When I choose "advanced tag editor" and add files to the picture tab it
>> saves them to the file, but it only shows the last file added for all.
>> Hopefully this makes sense.

> Yes, it would be nice if the Album Art visualization allowed you to treat
> these files like a slide-show in the Now Playing screen.

The Album Art display feature or the 3d album art viz... ?

> I would expect that if you had embedded art for each track, then that
> would be used for the art visualization in the Now Playing screen,
> changing for each track.

I think the problem there is that the images can be per-file but the images
are being set in this case per-CD. So that's possible, but the files aren't
being set.

>> I'm guessing it may be a bug that I'm just going to have to deal with,
>> but hoping there is a simple fix.
> This is a beta build, but I'm guessing that MS will not delay its June
> launch to fix many of the bugs turned up here, as it will be trying to
> meet deadlines for hardware and online service partners. To paraphrase,
> Steve Ballmer, it's all about quality, quilaty, kwaltily,
> ytqiullljkjkjkjkjjk

Where did you get that June date from? I'm unaware of any valid Microsoft
source talking about anything along those lines. It'd be a real shame if
people got confused by people making stuff up.

I believe I said this earlier, but in case you missed it:
No dates have been announced. Anything you've heard so far is made up.

Mike Williams

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Jun 8, 2006, 4:00:01 AM6/8/06
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zachd [MSFT] wrote:
> "Mike Williams" <mi...@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
> news:44872E0C...@m-v-p-s.org.null...
>> tinaka613 wrote:
>>> When I choose "advanced tag editor" and add files to the picture tab it
>>> saves them to the file, but it only shows the last file added for all.
>>> Hopefully this makes sense.
>
>> Yes, it would be nice if the Album Art visualization allowed you to treat
>> these files like a slide-show in the Now Playing screen.
>
> The Album Art display feature or the 3d album art viz... ?

I have no idea what the 2nd item is. There's only one Album Art
Visualisation that I can see.

>> I would expect that if you had embedded art for each track, then that
>> would be used for the art visualization in the Now Playing screen,
>> changing for each track.
>
> I think the problem there is that the images can be per-file but the images
> are being set in this case per-CD. So that's possible, but the files aren't
> being set.

So it that a bug or by design?

Mike Williams

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Jun 8, 2006, 4:05:32 AM6/8/06
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zachd [MSFT] wrote:
> The files are "joined" "mentally" via a hidden-to-you value (a CD
> identifier). Since they are linked, reassociating them to other albums
> won't work - they're still joined via that CD ID. You will keep having this
> problem since to WMP the files belong on the same CD.
>
> This is probably WMP being overly helpful. I'm not aware of any way to
> reset those CD IDs, but the question has been raised. =\
>
> -Zach

I ave a vague recollection that the Album Art fixer tool enabled reset
of that information. I think I was able to stop WMP from continually
overwriting some of my albums with incorrect artfiles after running them
through that tool.

http://www.avsoft.nl/artfixer/

zachd [MSFT]

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Jun 8, 2006, 4:47:42 AM6/8/06
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A: Gotcha. The Album Art thingamabob just is the static display of the art
for the file. There's a couple Album Art visualizations (Energy Bliss can
do something like this) that can do whatever they want, though.

B: There's two questions there rolled into one:
* WMP's Album Art display has a deterministic display order - it shows the
one album art that is set as default for that file.
* The user is applying art across multiple files. That's by design at this
time to the best of my knowledge, but an area that I know extremely little
about. There's a discussion ongoing clarifying that design, but I believe
that for the majority case that would be by design - if you use WMP's
"block" album art tools, it applies to the track and album, since album art
is unique per album, not track. You could use other third party tools if
you wanted to tune album art per track.

-Zach
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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tinaka613

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Jun 8, 2006, 1:39:01 PM6/8/06
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That's kind of what I figured, but was hoping there was a way. My main
reason for wanting this is for my MP3 player, but I guess I'll have to live
without the album art being attached for those few songs.

I appreciate the help!
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