boot from start-up disk failed
Chum@discussions.microsoft.com Chesapeake Chum
boot normally or in Safe Mode but instead displayed the error message:"An I/O
subsystem driver failed to load. Either a file in the .\iosubsystem
subdirectory is corrupt or the system is low on memory. Replace the disk and
then press any key." The system has lots of memory available so I decided to
boot from the start up disk and select the option to boot with access to the
CD drive where I had my Windows ME CD. I thought the corrupted file could be
replaced from the original Windows ME CD. Instead, I got another error
message saying cannot find sector Drive C. The option to Retry didn't work so
I selected Abort and after that didn't work I selected Fail which, of course,
didn't help. Any suggestions for what I might do next to get my system to
boot up? When I try to boot normally it often gets as far as press F3 for the
configuration utility. But when I press F3 nothing happens.
Mart
'failing hard drive' than with memory issues. WinMe (in both Normal and Safe
Mode) is trying to load corrupted or damaged files from your hard drive
(HDD) and consequently, failing to boot.
I would suggest you run scandisk c: from your (emergency) startup floppy
disk, but beware!! DO NOT let it do a surface scan (at this stage) Instead,
just take a note of any/all error reports and report back here. If your HDD
is failing, you may wish to try to recover your (personal) data before you
try booting into WinMe again. Somebody will advise you of the next steps.
BTW - You cannot boot into WinMe directly from the startup floppy disk, it
can only be done from the main system (failing?) HDD (Probably your C:
drive).
Mart
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RockyTSquirrel
my tried and true fix for that kinda failure has always been to get a new
HD and reinstall ME then use the old drive as a slave, transfer all "need
to save" data to the new drive then take the old HD and throw it as far as
I can into the lake...
:o) its worked everytime I've tried it over the last 10 years...
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Mart
fully satisfied (convinced) himself that he has got a failing HDD. The
important object is to NOT write to, or to read from as little as possible,
the failing disk BEFORE salvaging his (personal) data. Hence my 'Surface
Scan' warning.
However, I suspect that CC may need further advice on (clean) installing
WinMe onto a new HDD.
Mart
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Chesapeake Chum
salvage my personal data off of this one rather than spending money on a new
hard drive. Any help on how to salvage the data? I do have an external hard
drive but it has never been used with this computer before. I also have a
thumb drive with lots of capacity.
Mart
that you make your old drive a 'slave' or more accurately an extra drive off
your new computer.
All options entail removing the bad disk from your old machine and one messy
option involves poking about in your new PC and connecting your old drive as
a slave (assuming you have an IDE controller in your new computer) - not
really recommended.
The other easier option(s) *may* cost a few bucks and only entails removing
your old disk from your old computer of course and connecting it to a USB to
IDE adapter - e.g.
http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner/category=USB+2.0+to+IDE+Adapters,+USB+2.0+to+IDE+Cables
However, you already have one of these devices - your external hard drive!!
Just open-up the external HD box, remove the existing drive and substitute
the old drive and voila, you've done it for free. You can now read (and
ultimately test) your old drive and recover whatever undamaged files are
still there.
You may find that there are some instructions for replacing/substituting
hard drives in the user manual which came with the external hard drive.
Good luck
Mart
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Chesapeake Chum
Corday
before slash.
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I mastered Wordstar graphics!
Mart
attempt to write to the 'faulty' drive and make things worse. Hence my
suggestion not to do a surface scan in my first reply, thus preventing any
attempt (at this stage) to write to the disk. Alternatively use the
/checkonly switch.
Repairs should only be attempted if/when data is no longer critical.
Mart
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Chesapeake Chum
open it without breaking the case. I decided to get someone who has the
needed equipment and has done something like this before to help me with the
task. Many thanks to all of you who have given me advice in this situation.
I'll let you know whether we are able to save the data. Regretably my back-up
is a few months old. Lesson learned.
Mart
know the make and model - so we can all avoid it for future <g> Seriously
though, someone here *may* know the way in.
> .. Regretably my back-up
> is a few months old. ..
In spite of good intentions, I guess we are all guilty of that.
But thanks for the update. I'm sure all will go well and I hope you can at
least retrieve the more important data. Good luck and keep us posted.
Mart
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RockyTSquirrel
feet on the bottom..
might be worth a look see....
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Mike M
recover data from a dead 2�" LaCie external drive. Short of using a hammer
I couldn't see a way in including looking under pads/feet etc.
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Mart
super-glue vs. 4 screws might just save a few pence in production costs,
Mike <g> But it sounds like you would still have to resort to destructive
brute force if the data recovery was so important. Just proves how useful a
stand-alone IDE - USB adapter tool can be and may well be the simplest
solution at this time to CC's original problem.
Mart
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Mike M
Mart, I've got the tools required including the hammer however I'm not sure
that LaCie would be happy about replacing a defective drive under warranty
if it were to have been returned with the case smashed! <vbg> What I was
trying to do for my friend was to recover data from the disk before he
returned the drive as being defective.
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Mike
Mart
under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was.
I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than
trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the
numerous scare stories.
Mart
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"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even
> under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it
> was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off
> than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after
> reading the numerous scare stories.
A sledge hammer is the only effective tool I can think of to accomplish
that, Mart, besides machinery or high intensity fire.
Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space -
no, bad idea too <g>. <H>.
Mart
> Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space -
Jeepers Harry, we're bad enough at controlling our own pollution here on
earth without dumping it into outer space and inflicting it on to some other
life form. I think the sledge hammer followed by the recycle bin is a better
course of action.
Mart
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Mike M
Which is what happened. That is, since I was unable to recover the data and
then clean the drive, the owner chose to destroy it himself rather than
return it with the data quite possibly intact. Shame really because it
looked to be a nice bit of kit but with the drive having failed after less
than six months I know I won't be buying a LaCie.
--
Mike
Joan Archer
Glad I didn't buy one of those then <g> my new drive arrived today and is
sitting here with it's little green light showing me it's on at least <g>
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Mart
Just did a 'back-of-an-envelope' price check on Scan site.
A LaCie 300 GB Ext USB HDD (3.5"?) = �126
A WD 320 GB 3.5 IDE HDD (�45) + Newlink 3.5 IDE-USB Enclosure (�11) = �56
AND - you can access the HDD in the Newlink enclosure <bg>
No contest!!
Oops! - Just seen your post Joan. Hope yours was somewhat cheaper than �126
Mart
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I just had a fun system to play with (totally OT for this group) - XP lappy
with a 40GB drive, pretty well updated and 'clean' WRT malware.
Owner complained they'd lost a load of JPG files from the box and could I
find them......
turned out there was almost no free space on the HD, and at least 1/2 of
what was there was screwed because of either the 32GB limit in FAT32 (for
XP), or a hardware problem....
After three days of searching with no results, I gave up, and just did a
cleanup on the box (freeing 7GB along the way, despite shrinking the
partition by 3GB), then reformatted to NTFS, and suggested that the owner
get a new HD.....
They asked me to install the new HD (160GB)..... no problem, except for
needing to buy a 2.5"external case, and then waiting for 14hrs for the data
transfer!!
I returned the machine to them this morning - and THEN I find out that the
'lost' files hadn't been seen in months!'...... meanwhile the profile that
they'd been stored in had been deleted....etc...etc.....
I really should learn to dig a little deeper into client problems - but this
one seemed so simple as first presented!
If it hadn't been for another family member needing some help, I'd have lost
serious money on the job - it was a 100mile round trip to deliver the fixed
machine.
AS always, I learnt a few things along the way, which for me is the
important aspect.
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CrashFixPC
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Mike M
The external drive I was trying to recover data from was a LaCie 250GB
"Little Disk" (301830) that has both usb2 and FW400 interfaces. Dabs have
them at �64.98. Scan don't appear to stock them. The �126 job that you
found at Scan has a usb2 interface but also has an RJ45 10/100MHz ethernet
interface making it Network Attached Storage (NAS) that can be connected
directly to a router or switch. This capability always adds a fair amount
to the price of a drive as it requires the drive to have a processor (cpu)
and memory.
--
Mike
Mike M
> Glad I didn't buy one of those then <g> my new drive arrived today
> and is sitting here with it's little green light showing me it's on at
> least
> <g>
Does that mean you haven't tried using it yet Joan? <g> I'm surprised you
haven't half filled it already. :-)
I'm busy trying to clear some of my external storage by archiving to DVD but
it seems to be taking me absolutely ages. Might just be because of the
amount that needs to be done <vbg>. It looks like I'm going to have to
order some more blank DVDs this weekend, I'm getting through them so
quickly. I need to work out how many to order this time round - hopefully
SVP still have free delivery for orders > �xx. Phew, it looks as if they
still do, which means I get to buy another tub.
--
Mike
webster72n
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> Harry wrote :-
>
>> Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space -
>
> Jeepers Harry, we're bad enough at controlling our own pollution here on
> earth without dumping it into outer space and inflicting it on to some
> other life form.
Didn't I tell you it was a bad idea, too, Mart?
To me this entire situation seems as if not fully explored but, hey, I am
not an "expert" either..... <H>.
Joan Archer
Yes it was definitely cheaper than that or there's no way I would be able to
have bought it. I got a Seagate Expansion 500GB USB Desktop Hard Drive for
�49.99 from Play.com free delivery as well <g>
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image of my Vista machine including the hidden partition that the makers put
on the drive. I haven't got around to setting up a schedule yet, it's Friday
so not as much time to mess about today.
The difference in size makes me laugh this one is sitting on the shelf above
the tower on my desk so it can be left plugged in, it has it's own power
adapter so that's good, and my other drive looks more like a midget compared
to the new one it's not even as big as a notebook. Mind you that one is only
a 2.5" portable, well laptop size, whereas the Seagate is a 3.5" drive in
it's own enclosure.
I still have an image on the small drive but as it's only 80GB I knew I
needed to get a bigger one especially when I want to image both OS's
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