Antispyware, virus protection and other alike programs
SGB
program updates; only definitions.
Are there any types of these applications remaining FULLY compatible for
Windows ME?
TIA!
SGB
Noel Paton
In some respects, it's still very good - but it's not been updated
sufficiently since Trend bought the rights 'many years ago'
SilentRunners, I think, still works for Win9x - and is at least still being
supported for WinNT.
other than that, then you're in practically uncharted waters :(
HTH??
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
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David H. Lipman
| Only one I know of, is HiJackThis.
| In some respects, it's still very good - but it's not been updated
| sufficiently since Trend bought the rights 'many years ago'
| SilentRunners, I think, still works for Win9x - and is at least still being
| supported for WinNT.
| other than that, then you're in practically uncharted waters :(
| HTH??
| --
| Noel Paton
| CrashFixPC
HJT is NOT an anti malware protection program. It is merely an OS investigative tool.
As for HJT, I have a copy of v2.03 (Beta) and have read discussions of feedback and
modifications for the next release. The progress is slow but is actively being worked on.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
RockyTSquirrel
it updates about every 2 weeks
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webster72n
For virus protection Avast is still good and probably will be for a while.
Harry.
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David H. Lipman
| And Spybot for that matter seems to be working all right.
| For virus protection Avast is still good and probably will be for a while.
| Harry.
Only until the end of the '09 Harry.
Heather
dropping protection for Firefox, which I use 99% of the time. Apparently
they are sorta tied together, but I use MBAM instead of Spybot or Adaware
(forget how to spell that one, lol).
Not sure if you can use MBAM on WinME.....I shall check. But on the other
hand, I don't think there is too much malware still around for WinME (VBG).
Heather (and no....MBAM won't work on WinME)
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Noel Paton
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> From: "Noel Paton" <noeldp(spamless)@crashfixpc.co.uk>
>
> | Only one I know of, is HiJackThis.
>
> | In some respects, it's still very good - but it's not been updated
> | sufficiently since Trend bought the rights 'many years ago'
>
> | SilentRunners, I think, still works for Win9x - and is at least still
> being
> | supported for WinNT.
>
> | other than that, then you're in practically uncharted waters :(
>
> | HTH??
>
> | --
> | Noel Paton
> | CrashFixPC
>
> HJT is NOT an anti malware protection program. It is merely an OS
> investigative tool.
>
> As for HJT, I have a copy of v2.03 (Beta) and have read discussions of
> feedback and
> modifications for the next release. The progress is slow but is actively
> being worked on.
>
>
>
caution.
I find that in certain circumstances one is better than the other - and
vice-versa.
However, I find that using either of them is pretty much essential (avoiding
direct registry access) in any malware checkup, as dead links are frequently
left behind after cleanup, and it's a lot more time-efficient to use either
than to trawl the registry and trace links that may lead nowhere.
I've not seen any significant changes in HJT since v1.99 except frills -
and it's not been out of Beta since v2.00 (March 2007?) AFAIK.
WRT Avast - the website only states that Win9x is supported until end '09 -
not that it won't be supported after that (although the implication is that
it may stop at that point)
I notice that in neither of your replies have you assisted the OP - is there
any particular reason for that?
David H. Lipman
>> | HTH??
>> | --
>> | Noel Paton
>> | CrashFixPC
| --
| Noel Paton
| CrashFixPC
| Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| www.crashfixpc.co.uk
All vendors are abondoning support for Win9x/ME and I do also like the Edsel.
webster72n
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> From: "webster72n" <webst...@gmail.com>
>
> | And Spybot for that matter seems to be working all right.
> | For virus protection Avast is still good and probably will be for a
> while.
>
> | Harry.
>
> Only until the end of the '09 Harry.
In the vista.general group I was told otherwise that it will be continued
and referring to the Avast website, which I didn't check out myself yet.
Go figure...
N. Miller
I have found a lot of neat toys require Windows XP, or later. I help a
couple of people to keep Windows ME computers running, and it is getting
ever harder to do it, for lack of decent, current tools.
I expect it will be the same with Windows XP after six years pass.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
Noel Paton
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> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:25:01 -0700, SGB wrote:
>
>> SUPERAntiSpyware does not support Windows 98/ME anymore either in regards
>> to
>> program updates; only definitions.
>> Are there any types of these applications remaining FULLY compatible for
>> Windows ME?
>
> I have found a lot of neat toys require Windows XP, or later. I help a
> couple of people to keep Windows ME computers running, and it is getting
> ever harder to do it, for lack of decent, current tools.
>
> I expect it will be the same with Windows XP after six years pass.
>
before things get as bad for it as they are for Win9x now
By that time we'll probably be on Windows Galactica (or Win 11)
:)
N. Miller
> By that time we'll probably be on Windows Galactica (or Win 11)
I've already got "Win 11". Well, "X11" windows (in Linux).
Jerry Martin
I'm a bit confused. I went to the SUPERAntiSpyware web site and it looked to
me as if Win 98/ME were still supported.
The SUPERAntiSpyware product information page reads:
"Systems Requirements: Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, Vista or Windows
2003"
(See: http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispyware.html .)
The SUPERAntiSpyware page at Download.com reads:
"Operating system: Windows 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Me, Windows XP,
Windows 2000, Windows 98"
"Date added: September 03, 2009"
(See:
http://download.cnet.com/SuperAntiSpyware-Free-Edition/3000-8022_4-10523889.html?tag=mncol
.)
Where did you find that SUPERAntiSpyware for Win 98/ME were no longer
supported?
Thanks,
Jerry
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webster72n
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> Hello:
>
> I'm a bit confused. I went to the SUPERAntiSpyware web site and it looked
> to me as if Win 98/ME were still supported.
>
> The SUPERAntiSpyware product information page reads:
> "Systems Requirements: Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, Vista or Windows
> 2003"
> (See: http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispyware.html .)
>
> The SUPERAntiSpyware page at Download.com reads:
> "Operating system: Windows 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Me, Windows XP,
> Windows 2000, Windows 98"
> "Date added: September 03, 2009"
> (See:
> http://download.cnet.com/SuperAntiSpyware-Free-Edition/3000-8022_4-10523889.html?tag=mncol
> .)
>
> Where did you find that SUPERAntiSpyware for Win 98/ME were no longer
> supported?
I couldn't find nothing either and Avast will also NOT be discontinued.
Got it 'right from the horses mouth'.
Harry.
SGB
SUPERAntiSpyware Customer Service:
Sep 05 2009 (Sat)
10:56:06 PM PDT
I wrote:
I have Windows ME installed with IE6 on my computer.
The error message reads something about not supporting the version of
Windows and/or the Internet Explorer I am using.
I cannot update my computer to a newer Windows/IE version (e.g. Windows
2000, XP, Vista or IE7).
What am I suppose to do about updates? Is there a way around this problem?
Sep 05 2009 (Sat)
10:58:32 PM PDT
SUPERAntiSpyware.com Replied:
Hello,
We no longer provide support for 98/me as they are over 10 years old - you
can use our previous 4.24 version and just do definition updates.
SUPERAntiSpyware.com Customer Service
Sep 06 2009 (Sun)
10:40:37 AM PDT
I wrote:
How will it affect my system by not having the latest program updates?
What about the lifetime subscription I purchased.?
Will it work on any computer I purchase in the future?
Sep 08 2009 (Tue)
4:23:29 PM PDT
SUPERAntiSpyware.com Replied:
Hello,
There are no new technology advancements for 98 systems - the definitions
are updated - you can install the copy on any new computer you acquire and
it will allow it to be updated.
SUPERAntiSpyware.com Customer Service
To this group:
Thanks for all the replies, folks!
SGB
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Mike M
> you can use our previous 4.24 version and just do definition updates.
Says it all. Definition updates will continue to be available to those
running SuperAntiSpyware on Win Me. Just no program updates or new
features.
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Mike Maltby
mike....@gmail.com
Jerry Martin
Thanks for the clarification!
Cheers,
Jerry
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Jerry Martin
Where did you get this information? (I'm not saying that you're wrong, just
that I'd like to see it also.)
I couldn't find any info or the thread in the vista.geberal group.
Thanks,
Jerry
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>
>
> In the vista.general group I was told otherwise that it will be continued
> and referring to the Avast website, which I didn't check out myself yet.
> Go figure...
>
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> Hello Harry:
>
> Where did you get this information? (I'm not saying that you're wrong,
> just that I'd like to see it also.)
I contacted Avast Support directly via email and they assured me that it
will Not be discontinued for neither Windows Vista nor ME and information to
the contrary is false.
Let me know if you need to see their answer, I will have to copy and paste
it for you.
Harry.
Corday
operating systems Windows 95/98/Me/NT4 will be supported until the end of
2009. " Hopefully they mean to rescind it.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
N. Miller
> This is the statement from the Avast website copied and pasted "Note: The
> operating systems Windows 95/98/Me/NT4 will be supported until the end of
> 2009. " Hopefully they mean to rescind it.
Why? Windows ME went EOL a while back; no further development. How hard
should a software vendor work at keeping his product backwards compatible?
webster72n
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> This is the statement from the Avast website copied and pasted "Note: The
> operating systems Windows 95/98/Me/NT4 will be supported until the end of
> 2009. " Hopefully they mean to rescind it.
Here's their answer to my inquiry for Jerry's information as well:
Dear Harry,
Home version will not be terminated even with avast! 5, there would be
version for free home use and for commercial use. It's false information.
Kind regards,
Nonna Arustamyan
Sales and Support Specialist
ALWIL Software a.s.
www.avast.com
Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: QBH-704978
Department: [ENG] Sales
Priority: Default
Status: On Hold
To me that's good enough. <H>.
Mike M
version) when Avast! 5 is launched. The e-mail does not address nor mention
the continued availability of a version that can run on Win 9x systems such
as Win Me.
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mike....@gmail.com
webster72n
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> That e-mail confirms the continued availability of Avast! Home (the free
> version) when Avast! 5 is launched. The e-mail does not address nor
> mention the continued availability of a version that can run on Win 9x
> systems such as Win Me.
Here's the question I posed, Mike:
Hello Support:
The question came up whether the Free Home Edition of Avast is going to be
terminated by year's end for Windows ME or Vista.
I am running the program in both systems.
Will you be so kind and clarify the situation?
Most gratefully,
Harry.
Mike M
Surprising as it may appear I can actually read.
Your question was not answered. The reply was for a different question,
namely "Is Free Home Edition of Avast going to be terminated by year's end".
A. It is not.
Q. Is Win Me support to continue beyond 2009. Not answered.
webster72n
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> Harry,
>
> Surprising as it may appear I can actually read.
>
> Your question was not answered. The reply was for a different question,
> namely "Is Free Home Edition of Avast going to be terminated by year's
> end".
>
> A. It is not.
>
> Q. Is Win Me support to continue beyond 2009. Not answered.
In all probability you are correct, time will tell.
I will send them another email to verify. <H>.
webster72n
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> Harry,
>
> Surprising as it may appear I can actually read.
>
> Your question was not answered. The reply was for a different question,
> namely "Is Free Home Edition of Avast going to be terminated by year's
> end".
>
> A. It is not.
You were correct, Mike, I apologize for the confusion.
Here is their response:
Hi Harry,
Unfortunately, yes we will stop to support Windows ME and 98 at the end of
the year.
Best regards,
Nonna Arustamyan
Sales and Support Specialist
ALWIL Software a.s.
www.avast.com
>
David H. Lipman
| "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
| news:#jz5wtYM...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,
>> Surprising as it may appear I can actually read.
>> Your question was not answered. The reply was for a different question,
>> namely "Is Free Home Edition of Avast going to be terminated by year's
>> end".
>> A. It is not.
| You were correct, Mike, I apologize for the confusion.
| Here is their response:
| Hi Harry,
| Unfortunately, yes we will stop to support Windows ME and 98 at the end of
| the year.
| Best regards,
| Nonna Arustamyan
| Sales and Support Specialist
| ALWIL Software a.s.
| www.avast.com
Like I posted 4 days ago but you didn't believe me :-(
"Only until the end of the '09 Harry."
webster72n
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> From: "webster72n" <webst...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> | "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> | news:#jz5wtYM...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Harry,
>
>>> Surprising as it may appear I can actually read.
>
>>> Your question was not answered. The reply was for a different question,
>>> namely "Is Free Home Edition of Avast going to be terminated by year's
>>> end".
>
>>> A. It is not.
>
> | You were correct, Mike, I apologize for the confusion.
> | Here is their response:
>
> | Hi Harry,
>
> | Unfortunately, yes we will stop to support Windows ME and 98 at the end
> of
> | the year.
>
>
> | Best regards,
> | Nonna Arustamyan
> | Sales and Support Specialist
> | ALWIL Software a.s.
> | www.avast.com
>
>
>
> Like I posted 4 days ago but you didn't believe me :-(
Probably a lot of wishful thinking involved, who knows.
Promise to be more 'faithful' the next time, if I may. <H>.
N. Miller
> That is bad, not everyone can afford a new computer or even want one.
I have an aunt who just walked out of the store with a new computer, and 22"
LCD monitor for around $388 plus tax.
> (Before anyone says anything not everyone is on dsl).
I know. A lot of my friends have Comcast, or Charter cable instead of DSL!
;)
> Dont say if you got a computer, you can afford a new one. Not always true.
I suppose the homeless can't, but ...
> I happen to like windows 98se/ME.
I don't dislike either; but I hated rebooting the old Pavilion in the garage
every other day because it was running low on system resources. It runs
Windows XP HE (upgrade version; cost $99 + tax), though it would do better
with more RAM.
> The only one I know that will support windows 9x is clamwin open
> source. I hope they don't change their minds.
>
> Kernelex may not work with all win9x software.
>
> Now, I see why some people buy cheap copies of windows xp. That may
> or may not be legal.
Main obstacle to a system upgrade will be hardware. I've worked on five
computers, mix of Windows 98SE and Windows ME, which won't make the cut for
an upgrade. Really old Compaq with Windows 98SE which only had 32 MB of RAM,
and only upgradeable to 48 MB; Windows XP wants 128 MB at a minimum, and is
dog slow, even with 256 MB. Three of the five are, or will be taken to an
electronics recycler. Not sure, yet, about the other two.
I have two HP Pavilion 6745Cs, which came with Windows ME. One is already
upgraded to Windows XP HE. I am not sure what I will do with the other. Yet.
If you don't have the hardware to support Windows XP, you are better of not
trying. But there are so many things I am able to do with my new HP Pavilion
m7590n (well, not so new, now), that I could never do with my old HP
Pavilion 6745C. Granted, though, the current equivalent of my new computer
is going to run about $1200, not $388 ...
Jerry Martin
Thanks for asking and getting a definitive answer from the Avast staff to
this question of Win 98/ME support after 2009. There's no more doubt at this
point.
Cheers,
Jerry
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> Hi Harry:
>
> Thanks for asking and getting a definitive answer from the Avast staff to
> this question of Win 98/ME support after 2009. There's no more doubt at
> this point.
Thanks for the acknowledgement, Jerry, makes me feel a little bit better.
>
> Cheers,
> Jerry
And to you, too,
Harry.