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Shane

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Dec 25, 2009, 4:24:23 AM12/25/09
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Kind of sad how for the last few years this group has been virtually empty
Crimbo Day. It used to be almost IM (which I don't use, which maybe made it
seem a bit more special? I suppose the appeal of IM is the feedback carrot).

I think the microsoft.public.windowsme groups were invigorating because
despite being IMO the best 9x version, it was (and still is) widely disliked
(there are *some* advantages to Conformity). So they were never
oversubscribed, dominated by the intolerant and egomaniacal types who do and
always have dominated the XP, Vista and presumably now Windows 7 groups.

It is rather as if this has been a 'backwater' where the discerning went.
Sure, many WinMe users were complete novices whose first computer came with
it, but often simply finding these groups is a kind of initiation and
sufficient a learning curve as to mean they came here with the wit and
attitude to contribute to the company; and of course those who kept
returning contributed to the family, as opposed to the brawl of those other
groups in which the few sparkling stars are blotted out by the probing
coal-black clouds of trolldom.

So WinMe family, hope you didn't just get a lump of coal in your stocking! I
think I'll go light mine.

The FSM bless us, each and every one!

Merry Crimbo!

Shane


Mart

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Dec 25, 2009, 7:29:40 AM12/25/09
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Hi Shane, - and a Merry Crimbo to you (and all) too.

Not only quieter here, but it's also sad (for me) in as much as although my
WinMe desk top(s) had already been consigned to the great skip in the skies,
I did 'maintain' a winMe laptop for medicinal purposes - attempting to
dispense cures to those with various symptoms of Winfluenza. But this too is
about to be laid to rest. Her indoors wants a clearout!

However, as you allude, later systems (and Groups) are not so friendly.
Progress? or a sign of the times? MS not wanting to include W7 in these
NG's? - although you can find alt.windows7 elsewhere. And OE6? - in spite
of external noise - and especially since the introduction 'back-up'
immediately before compression - has only ever let me down once (and that
was due to finger trouble) and was (mostly) recoverable. It still *reliably*
copes with some 2G of email files. Outlook, Windows Mail and now Windows
Live Mail don't give me the same simple 'clarity' and 'flexibility' - and
those colleagues who do use the 'new fangled' mail handlers seem to have far
more trouble than me. Progress!

I've yet to install my new Win7 'upgrade' on/over my (fairly new - July)
Vista laptop, maybe, perhaps, over the xmas period or early new year. I
think I'll make it a New Year's resolution - for 2011. When's Win8 due?

Move over Shane, I'd like to warm my hands over your lump of coal before the
thought police tax/prosecute you for carbon dioxide pollution. Sign of the
times!

Bah! - Humbug!! - Nah! - Enjoy what we've got. Merry Crimbo

Mart

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Mike M

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Dec 25, 2009, 7:59:58 AM12/25/09
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You _really_ do need to get to use virtual machines and then Win Me (and OE)
can live for ever! :-)

Enjoy your lunch and don't hog the fire!
--
Mike

Mike M

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Dec 25, 2009, 8:02:37 AM12/25/09
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Good to see you still around. Enjoy yourself and humbug aside, enjoy your
mince pie(s) but careful with the cooking sherry.

Merry Crimbo back at you and also to anyone else passing by this NG today!
--
Mike

Mart

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:39:54 AM12/25/09
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Another NY resolution - I must/will install VM

Have a good one too Mike - Just off out visiting grandson etc., for xmas
dinner. Just hope the weather holds.

Mart


Have a good one too Mike
"Mike M No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only wrote


> You _really_ do need to get to use virtual machines and then Win Me (and
> OE) can live for ever! :-)
> Enjoy your lunch and don't hog the fire!

> Mike


Bill Leary

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:32:06 AM12/25/09
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I've got two laptops here still running ME. And I've put up a Microsoft VPC
on my Vista system with ME installed in it.

I expect that, eventually, the two laptops will no longer be of any use at
all and they'll go away. But the ME on VPC will likely go on for some time.
A couple of programs that will not run in Vista run just fine there.

- Bill

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Joan Archer

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Dec 25, 2009, 11:02:17 AM12/25/09
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Best wishes back at you lot as well, crikey I managed to type that without a
mistake sorry but I've had 2 glasses of Leibrf <sp> you know that wine, and
as I don't drink usually after the first one my head was woozy and I still
had to dish up Christmas pud

Thought I'd pop in here while I drink my 2nd cup of real coffee with double
cream floating on top <g>
Joan


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webster72n

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"Shane" <lad...@blahdeblah.zap> wrote in message
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Guess we each have our own way of celebrating the season, but one thing we
can agree on here: WinME and it's group was 'tops' and I am glad we still
can 'connect'.
According to public opinion Windows ME and Vista are 'throw aways'.
Is the fact that I like WinME and Vista just fine of a personal reflection,
or could the public be wrong? Both systems are totally under my control and
work exceptionally well for me.
In the end, that's all which counts, isn't it?
Hope everyone is enjoying this festive time.

Harry.
>
> Shane
>
>

Heather

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Dec 25, 2009, 2:48:22 PM12/25/09
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Merry Crimbo to you all.....we are relaxing for a min before going next door
with 2 adults, 3 sorta adults, 1 cat and 2 yappin' Yorkies. LOL.

All the best to everyone...........and Joanie, stay out of the cooking
sherry!!

Figgs and Family

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MowGreen

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Dec 26, 2009, 7:10:28 PM12/26/09
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Merry Crimbo and a Happy Festivus to the rest of us
Hoppy New Year and say " Good Night, Gracie "
2009 was kind of crazy
Some don't recall
It's too hazy
2010 sounds so much better
That's if we all don't end up debtors
The rich don't care cause greed is unfettered
perhaps eating a few will make everything better ? �


Mow

webster72n

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"MowGreen" <mowg...@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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> Merry Crimbo and a Happy Festivus to the rest of us
> Hoppy New Year and say " Good Night, Gracie "
> 2009 was kind of crazy
> Some don't recall
> It's too hazy
> 2010 sounds so much better
> That's if we all don't end up debtors
> The rich don't care cause greed is unfettered
> perhaps eating a few will make everything better ? �

Quite inspiring and uplifting, in a way.
Very nice, Mow, I see you've got a 'patent' on it?
Hope you're having a really good 'Festivus' yourself.

Harry.

David H. Lipman

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Dec 26, 2009, 8:31:12 PM12/26/09
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From: "MowGreen" <mowg...@nowandzen.com>

| Merry Crimbo and a Happy Festivus to the rest of us
| Hoppy New Year and say " Good Night, Gracie "
| 2009 was kind of crazy
| Some don't recall
| It's too hazy
| 2010 sounds so much better
| That's if we all don't end up debtors
| The rich don't care cause greed is unfettered
| perhaps eating a few will make everything better ? �


| Mow


For me, I think about this time frame ten years ago.

It was the eve of Y2K and the fruition of much work and preparation.

Then even threw in a gas powered tubine engine electric generator in back of my building.

I look back ten years later and I say it was a non-event.

As for 2009. It sucked.


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Dave
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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


Noel Paton

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:27:21 PM12/27/09
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Hey - Happy (insert appropriate name here), Shane!.....
IKWYM about the denizens of this space - I go away for a few days and come
back to find..... well, .... everybody's moved away!.. (OK, it was more than
a few days, but....)

The old fogies like me/you/us(/Figgs?) are still around, even if not as
often, but at least we have contact:)

....and a Happy New Boxing Day to us al!

{Please be aware that this communication bears no relation to reality
whatever, and has no informational content beyond that of a greeting....
which does not mean that it originated in Redmond! <g>}

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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Noel Paton

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:31:56 PM12/27/09
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Hmmm.... progs that won't run under Vista?...... did they run under XP? did
you try compatibility mode??.....
if you wanna work on them (just for fun <g>) mail me!
Merry Xmas, Bill.
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Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

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Joan Archer

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:50:08 AM12/28/09
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ROFL

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Heather

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:45:11 PM12/28/09
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YO.....It was Shane's birthday a couple of days ago and in my Crimbo-addled
state of mind, I forgot to tell you all.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, OLD SOCK!! #50??

The Figgs Family

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N. Miller

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:04:22 PM12/28/09
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:24:23 -0000, Shane wrote:

> Kind of sad how for the last few years this group has been virtually empty
> Crimbo Day. It used to be almost IM (which I don't use, which maybe made it
> seem a bit more special? I suppose the appeal of IM is the feedback carrot).
>
> I think the microsoft.public.windowsme groups were invigorating because
> despite being IMO the best 9x version, it was (and still is) widely disliked
> (there are *some* advantages to Conformity). So they were never
> oversubscribed, dominated by the intolerant and egomaniacal types who do and
> always have dominated the XP, Vista and presumably now Windows 7 groups.

I never understood the fuss about Windows ME. The only failing I ever was
bugged by was common to the entire Win9x family: System resources.

And there are no Windows 7 NNTP groups. Alas. I don't care much for Web
forums, and have yet to check out those for Windows 7.

> It is rather as if this has been a 'backwater' where the discerning went.
> Sure, many WinMe users were complete novices whose first computer came with
> it, but often simply finding these groups is a kind of initiation and
> sufficient a learning curve as to mean they came here with the wit and
> attitude to contribute to the company; and of course those who kept
> returning contributed to the family, as opposed to the brawl of those other
> groups in which the few sparkling stars are blotted out by the probing
> coal-black clouds of trolldom.

By the time I got here, I had been using WinME for a couple of years. and
was just a couple more away from a new computer with Windows XP.

> So WinMe family, hope you didn't just get a lump of coal in your stocking! I
> think I'll go light mine.
>
> The FSM bless us, each and every one!

Well, I have only one computer left with Windows ME on it. And I need to
cannibalize its power supply for the other one, which I had upgraded to
Windows XP because of that System Resources issue. When I was turning off
that computer every night, it wasn't such a horrific issue. But when I
started running a mail server on it, 24/7, I had to power it down every
other day to recover used resources. Windows XP is slow as molasses on that
machine, but once the server is running, everything goes smoothly until the
next round of Microsoft Updates (where the pain of insufficient hardware is
greatly felt).

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

N. Miller

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:12:40 PM12/28/09
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:50:43 -0500, webster72n wrote:

> According to public opinion Windows ME and Vista are 'throw aways'.
> Is the fact that I like WinME and Vista just fine of a personal reflection,
> or could the public be wrong?

I think the public was wrong. I liked Windows ME very much, despite a
weakness common to the entire 9x family. But I found Windows ME superior to
Windows 98 in recovery from that weakness.

I never played much with Windows Vista. It seemed okay, but not so great
that I felt compelled to spend $109 of my hard earned money to upgrade from
Windows XP MCE 2005. However, the $44.99 price tag of the Windows 7 upgrade
was very attractive (Windows 7 Home Premium "Family Pack"; $44.99 x 3).

Heirloom

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:54:35 PM12/28/09
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Buy the 2 adults a movie ticket and give them a few shillings for snacks,
bind and gag the 3 sorta adults....put them in a large Ziplok to preserve
freshness, kill the cat and send me the Yorkies.
Oh yeah, Merry Christmas to all (belated) and a very happy, healthy and
prosperous New Year!!!

Heirloom, old and still haven't figured out the 'man in the moon' thing.

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Joan Archer

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:38:04 PM12/28/09
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ROFL
Wondered if you'd surface this year Heirloom, hope you both had a good
Christmas. We had a fairly quiet day, after Kelly and her lot went home, it
was nice having the first Christmas just to ourselves, oh not forgetting the
cat <g>

As for the man in the moon I thought he was trying to find the cheese <g>

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Bill Leary

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"Noel Paton" <noeldp(spamless)@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hmmm.... progs that won't run under Vista?...... did they run under XP?

Yes.

> did you try compatibility mode??.....

Yes, although I can't say I exactly knocked myself out trying every possible
option. I already had the ME VPC installed and was more than half thinking
I'd use it anyway.

> if you wanna work on them (just for fun <g>) mail me!

Well, I've got a solution I'm satisfied with. I already wasted a few hours
on trying to get it to run under Vista. Still, if you've got an idea I
didn't try, I'd give it a whirl.

Specifically, the compile-to-executable option of Visual Basic 3 crashes VB
under Vista.

Everything else works, though. So I put the two programs I'm maintaining in
a shared folder that my ME VPC can see. I do all my development/debug and
so on under Vista then save the entire thing. Fire up ME, do the compile
there, then shut down ME. I only create executable rarely, so it's not much
of an inconvenience. The executables run find under Vista, I just can't
create them under Vista.

> Merry Xmas, Bill.

Merry Christmas to you. And have a fine (upcoming) New Year as well.

- Bill

Noel Paton

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Dec 29, 2009, 3:01:09 PM12/29/09
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Ah...VB3 came out somewhere about the same time that Noah jumped ship! - the
problem here is not so much ME compatibility as VB runtimes. and I know no
way around that (but I'm willing to play if you are! <vbeg>)

Good luck - and come back if you need an assist!

--
Noel Paton
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Bill Leary

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"Noel Paton" <noeldp(spamless)@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ah...VB3 came out somewhere about the same time that Noah jumped ship! -
> the problem here is not so much ME compatibility as VB runtimes. and I
> know no way around that (but I'm willing to play if you are! <vbeg>)
>
> Good luck - and come back if you need an assist!

No, that's fine. What I'm doing works, and it's not like I was doing
compiles every day where it might be annoying.

Thanks

- Bill

webster72n

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No such thing with 'Vista'. <H>.

webster72n

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We are a frugal bunch here, aren't we? <H>.

N. Miller

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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:59 -0500, webster72n wrote:

> We are a frugal bunch here, aren't we? <H>.

Our imperious president wants to suck up as much of our money for his
proposed plans as possible. Won't leave me much to play with! ;)

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