emulator

[xcal]

Hi group

I have just realized to ask if there exist
some modern emulator that can be used inside
VPC 2007.

I want to build evc 3 or 4 code and then copy
compiled code manually on the emulator and
run from there.

thanks very much in advance,
Carlos

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See Mike Hall's blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/mikehall/archive/2009/05/21/download-windows-embedded-ce-6-0-virtual-pc-binary-bsp.aspx

It does require you to build an OS using Platform Builder though.

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[xcal]

thanks very much Bruce.

please one more doubt, I never understood the difference
between (evc3 or evc4) and Platform Builder, I have no too
much experience on these things, but I always could get my
evc executables by using only evc3 or evc4, so if you say
I need Platform Builder, I think I have to fix ideas

best regards,
Carlos.

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Platform Builder is used to create a Windows CE OS for a device. In this
case the device is the Virtual PC. Unfortunatly, Mike published the BSP (a
collection of drivers for the device used to create an OS using Platform
Builder) but did not publish an OS for you to use.

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[xcal]

thanks very much,

I understand that the device have no any WinCE,
then Platform Builder helps you to "insert" the WinCE OS.

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Not insert, no. Create

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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:11:37 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:

>Hi group
>
>I have just realized to ask if there exist
>some modern emulator that can be used inside
>VPC 2007.

The answer depends on what you mean by "inside".

If you're trying to create a virtual machine with Windows CE as the
operating system, then you'll need an X86-compatible version of
Windows CE. But nothing like that is available for sale, so you'll
need to use Platform Builder to build a custom version of Windows CE.

If, however, you want an emulator that runs under some version of
"big" Windows running under VPC, that is a much easier problem. Visual
Studio 2008 comes with an emulator.

>
>I want to build evc 3 or 4 code and then copy
>compiled code manually on the emulator and
>run from there.

If you're using one of the SDKs from Microsoft, then you are building
for one of the platforms (Pocket PC, Smartphone, etc.) controlled by
Microsoft. And that means using Platform Builder wont' work, unless
you're willing to pay big bucks for a license to build that platform.
If you're using an SDK from someone else, then you are dealing with
people (or a company) who use Platform Builder to build a custom
version of their operating system. Maybe you can get them to build an
x86-compatible version that will run under VPC.

My hunch is that you'll be way better using the emulator that comes
with VS 2008, rather than using Platform Builder. But one of us might
come up with an even better solution if you tell us why you think an
emulator running under VPC would help you.

>
>thanks very much in advance,
>Carlos
>

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[xcal]

thanks Mr,

no, I'm want to write simple code for PPC devices,
excuse my ignorance, I didn't know what the platform
builder is for, and this caused some confusion.

I should want to ask now is if that emulator that
comes with VS2008 can be activated without
using VS2008, just like opening any file.

thanks for your comments,
Carlos

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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:46:08 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:

>thanks Mr,
>
>no, I'm want to write simple code for PPC devices,
>excuse my ignorance, I didn't know what the platform
>builder is for, and this caused some confusion.
>
>I should want to ask now is if that emulator that
>comes with VS2008 can be activated without
>using VS2008, just like opening any file.

I'm pretty sure the emulator can run on its own. But I've never
actually used VS 2008 or the new emulator, so I hope someone else will
confirm or correct me.

I still think someone could find an even better answer for you if you
asked the questions behind your question: why do you want to use the
emulator by itself? Also, why do you think VPC is part of your
solution?

[xcal]

of course, I believe that if there exists some emulator
that comes whithout VS2008, that would be the best
Carlos

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[xcal]

hi Mr,

Now I don't remember why, and each case, etc, but I remember
many times I wanted to activate the PPC emulator without calling VStudio.
Also, I want to run from VPC because sometimes I write code
in one machine that I don't own.
regards,

Carlos
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:50:59 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:

>of course, I believe that if there exists some emulator
>that comes whithout VS2008, that would be the best

eVC 3 and eVC 4 have emulators. But I've never heard any hint of an
emulator that doesn't come with a compiler from Microsoft. Given how
well the eVC 3 and eVC 4 emulators work, I'm convinced they are very
hard to write. I'm also convinced Intel and/or ARM lawyers would swarm
anyone who tried to distribute one.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:46:40 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:

>hi Mr,
>
>Now I don't remember why,

Then maybe it isn't so important.

and each case, etc, but I remember
>many times I wanted to activate the PPC emulator without calling VStudio.

Why?

>Also, I want to run from VPC because sometimes I write code
>in one machine that I don't own.

How does VPC help when you don't own the machine? If you are just
"writing" code, how do you have anything to test in an emulator. If by
"writing", you really mean "editing, compiling, and linking", then why
can't you use the emulator that comes with the IDE you're using to
compile, edit, and build?

It is much, much harder to help when you don't provide enough
information.

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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:46:40 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:

>hi Mr,
>
>Now I don't remember why, and each case, etc, but I remember
>many times I wanted to activate the PPC emulator without calling VStudio.
>Also, I want to run from VPC because sometimes I write code
>in one machine that I don't own.

I'm going to make a guess about the real issue: you want to be able
to work on your code while using a "borrowed" computer. You mentioned
VPC, so I'm going to assume VPC is installed on both computers (yours
and the "borrowed" one). So I suggest installing all your development
tools in a virtual machine. If you have a portable external drive
that's fast enough, you can put the virtual machine on that drive and
then use it directly on both computers. If you don't have a fast en
ought drive, you can use a copy of the virtual machine on one
computer, copy it to a portable drive, copy it to the other computer,
and continue working.

>regards,
>Carlos
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>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:46:08 -0500, "xcal" <d22> wrote:
>>
>>>thanks Mr,
>>>

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[xcal]

thanks for your comments, excuseme for the delay

actually there is no need to think too much about this problem.
I'm not looking for a perfect solution, but yes, trying
to find some or another idea.

also, for example you could use SharpDevelop
to build solutions for PPC devices, but in that
case I think, you don't have an emulator.

I have started to try Standalone emulator 3,
let's see how it goes

thanks, Carlos.

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