Re: XP wont see Vista

[Chuck [MVP]]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:42:01 -0700, sdsuromero
<sdsur...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I own a XP Home desktop and my friend owns a Vista Home Premium laptop. My PC
>is connected to a wireless router (Belkin Wireless G Router) through a
>Ethernet cable and my friends laptop is connected wireless. We both connect
>to the internet. His Vista laptop is able to see my PC through his network
>places but is unable to play my music through iTunes. My XP computer is
>unable to see anything of his. We have tried turning off all firewalls and
>turning on all sharing but nothing has worked. All we want to be able to do
>is connect to a LAN game and be able to share our music through iTunes.
>
>I already have the LLTD update.
>Both are same workgroup name
>
>I hope someone can help I have been trying to figure this out all week.

This problem is frequently caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal
firewall, or in consistent NetBT setting.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

There are several more gotchas, that Vista may present you with.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

Or let's look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and diagnose the
problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

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[Chuck [MVP]]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:40:03 -0700, davey_griffo
<davey...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>"sdsuromero" wrote:
>
>> I own a XP Home desktop and my friend owns a Vista Home Premium laptop. My PC
>> is connected to a wireless router (Belkin Wireless G Router) through a
>> Ethernet cable and my friends laptop is connected wireless. We both connect
>> to the internet. His Vista laptop is able to see my PC through his network
>> places but is unable to play my music through iTunes. My XP computer is
>> unable to see anything of his. We have tried turning off all firewalls and
>> turning on all sharing but nothing has worked. All we want to be able to do
>> is connect to a LAN game and be able to share our music through iTunes.
>>
>> I already have the LLTD update.
>> Both are same workgroup name
>>
>> I hope someone can help I have been trying to figure this out all week.

>Is there a simple walkthrough for connecting a small home network? I have a
>similar setup: Belkin router connected to net. Desktop with Vista & a USB
>network dongle, & Centrino equipped laptop running XP. I've tried running the
>network wizard from the Vista Machine, but the XP machine said it had no
>settings, or none it could find. Running the wizrd from the XP machine, it
>said I had no removable media. It obviously doesn't recognise USB keydrives.
>
>I don't see me using a network much, but I would still be interested in
>setting it up, even if only as a geeky exercise. :-)

Davey,

The Microsoft reference document is the best simple walk through. It covers
issues relevant to Vista specifically.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx

My tutorial covers more issues, including some which have been discovered here,
as problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

What seems simple to some folks won't be that to everybody. Computer networking
is NOT simple - it is damn complicated. Follow some of the links through my
blog, and you should get a feel for the complication level.

But read what you can, and ask questions. That's how this forum works best.
People asking questions, and other people answering questions. And not the same
people every time either.

[davey_griffo]

Perhaps I should elaborate a little then, Chuck, so you have a better idea of
what I'm trying to acheive.

The setup above is connected to an ADSL modem, and allows each machine,
individually or at the same time, to access the internet. Basically, they act
as 2 individual machines, bandwidth sharing.

What I'm trying to do is link them together into a mini network, so I can
move files back & forth, or play private multiplayer games. I'm not sure I
like the idea of sharing, as I thought that as soon as you open that up, you
open up your machine to the rest of the web.

As I said above, I tried running the wizards on each of the different OS's,
but each wasn't happy with the other, & XP's idealy wanted a floppy,
something that's not been fitted for years, and certainly not in my 14"
notebook PC.

Which should I be using. XP's as the lowest, common denominator, or Vista's
as the most recent, and presumabbly most compatible, & how do I get them to
talk to each other?

[Chuck [MVP]]

Davey,

IMHO, Vista and XP are quite capable of co existing, and sharing, quite well.
You simply have to deal with a few more details. The wizards aren't necessary,
and in some cases just make the job harder.

If the computers are connected through the router, then they are reasonably
safe, and are not open to the rest of the web. If they both have Internet
connectivity, then part of the job is done already.

Why not look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and see what needs to
be done next. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions

precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

And read my tutorial (cited above).

[davey_griffo]

> Davey,
>
> IMHO, Vista and XP are quite capable of co existing, and sharing, quite well.
> You simply have to deal with a few more details. The wizards aren't necessary,
> and in some cases just make the job harder.
>
> If the computers are connected through the router, then they are reasonably
> safe, and are not open to the rest of the web. If they both have Internet
> connectivity, then part of the job is done already.
>
> Why not look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
> server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and see what needs to
> be done next. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
> precisely (download browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> And read my tutorial (cited above).
>

Whoa there bud, all that stuff in quotes just went straight over my head I'm
afraid. Not a clue what you just said. I've a fair bit of computer knowledge,
but not much on networking, I'm afraid. Whenever I've set one up before, the
setup programs and wizards have always worked for me. Now they're struggling,
quite frankly so am I.

If those to links are in laymans terms, & show you where to find everything,
I'll be ok. Otherwise, I could do with the ijits version. :-)

[Chuck [MVP]]

OK, we'll take it the slow way.

Start by running "ipconfig /all" from a command window, on each computer.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html