HP Pavilion dv6000 won't load vista
r3n3r4d3
Hi all
This is what happened
I woke up at 6 to go work, i left my laptop on all night, so i decided
to shut it off before i go to work.
I JUST came back, and when i start it, the HP loading screen works,
then it loaded in my vista home premium. i type my password, but it was
frozen already.
So i restarted my laptop. and it loads teh HP screen, then blank
screen. I tried to wait for 10-15 mins. still blank screen.
I tried to use the PHXBIOS and did a Hard Disk self test.
The status: #10009 - Replace Hard Disk
WHAT I DO?
OMG
ALL MY Univeristy homeworks in tehre !
:'(
PLEASE HELP!
I RAN SYSTEM STARTUP REPAIR USING VISTA RECOVERY DISC
AND THIS CAME OUT FROM THE RESULT:
root cause found:
system volume on disk is corrupt
Repair action: file system repair (chkdsk)
REsult: completed error code = 0x0
time taken = 312985 ms
so is my harddrive done?
Is there ANYTHING i can do? I really want to keep all my files.
Thanks
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r3n3r4d3
Chad Harris
you did to test it is. It's unclear to me if Startup Repair actually caused
a chkdsk to be run.
Since you seem to have a Vista DVD from which to run a startup repair, boot
from the DVD>startup repair>command prompt> and use the bootrec commands and
see if that helps you. You should get an attaboy after each command you
type at the command prompt you're going to access in the Startup Repair menu
outside Windows:
http://owened.co.nz/Owenedv2/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/startup-repair.png
At the command prompt type separately and after each one you should get a
"successful" attaboy.
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /rebuildbcd
If these don't work, then try tapping the F8 key to the Windows Advanced
options menu and try system restore from each Safe Mode, and if necessary
try the longshot, which is really a registry snapshot much like System
Restore, Last Known Good:
Good luck,
CH
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Richard G. Harper
take the computer to a professional who is skilled at data recovery.
Anything you try at this point could well be destroying the data that
remains on the drive to the point that even a professional cannot recover
it.
Oh, and for future information, consider backing up essential data and
documents to an external device, network drive, etc.
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DL
PC to a reputable repair shop.
Or you download, create the bootable disk checking utility available from
your HD manufacturers web site, then boot from that disk & run a check If
you dont know the HD make, try Seatools from Seagate
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are fairly reliable and I'd give 'em a try first. Most OEM pc makers have
key combos at startup that you could use to get an indication of the status
of your HD as well. For Dell, it's Ctrl+Alt+D when you see the firmware or
bios-splash screen, the so-called "90-90" test that detects 90% of HD
problems You didn't state what HP box you have--so try HP's support
resources or google/MSN Search and see; I've seen discussions of "HP
Diagnostics" on the web.
You aren't going to jeapordize recovery of your data one scintilla by
trying boot switches at SR's command prompt. If it works, you're ahead of
the game. If not, you haven't impacted your situation.
It would be a waste of money to haul your box into some professional
recovery venu before you try the tools MSFT has given you. Further, the
average cost to recover data from a HD from pros is about $1600. That's not
in a lot of people's budget who are students doing "university homework."
If you do recover. using the boot switches I gave you from the Startup
Repair menu, I'd type cmd in the search box above start>rt. click>run as
admin.>and type chkdsk c: \r at the cmd prompt
Sometimes where the rubber hits the road is in the real world.
CH
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r3n3r4d3
i did the startup repair, which didnt work. I also did the cmd prompt
thing and enter those 3 commands. but it doesnt work.
Both resulted in 5 mins wait of the Vista Loading Bar Screen. Then the
Blue screen comes out. then restarts my computer.
So i guess my only chance is to take it to a professional right?
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r3n3r4d3
Chad Harris
Tell me exactly how you "did the command prompt thing" step by step and type
the 3 commands for me. And when you did those commands if you did them, did
you get a "successful" response after each one on the command
prompt--because I hear all the time things like "I did the command prompt
thing" only to find out that someone didn't do it correctly.
Further, besides wanting to know exactly what you did so I know if you ran
the 3 commands correctly by getting you to type them and telling me that you
accessed the command prompt in startup repair you make no mention at all
about several other things I told you to do:
I'll reiterate one more time. I told you:
1) Run the Seagate hard drive test
2) Search the web using "the google" for any HP hard drive diagnostic and
run it
3) Assure me by showing me how you did it and typing the commands what you
did at the command prompt if you were able to get there. The reason I'm
insisting on this is that many people will say they did something, only to
mean they couldn't get it done.
4) You made no mention, and did not try I'll assume to use all of the
options available to you after restarting and tapping the F8 key once per
second at the bios splash or HP firmware screen. I intend for you
specifically to get to the F8 screen that I've screenshot for you already,
and run system restore at:
1) Safe Mode
2) Safe Mode with Networking
3) Safe Mode with Command typing %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
at the command prompt.
By my count, I'm asking you to do each and every one of these things before
you book off to someone you're paying. My logic is that hundreds if not
thousands of times, I've seen them work collectively. Further you don't
know the exact status of your hard drive. Unless and until you do, you can't
assume it's fried. If it isn't, then you have no reason in the world not to
take the few minutes doing what I've asked you to do.
That's:
1) Run a Seagate tool to assess the HD on your HP.
2) Find or call HP for the tool that assess your HD.
These assessment tools aren't perfect, but they're accurate about 90% of the
time.
3) Show me how you did the 3 boot rec commands and tell me what the command
prompt said after you ran each of them:
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /rebuildbcd
***There is a space after the c and before the "/"
4) System Restore from Safe Mode by tapping F8
5) System Restore from Safe Mode with Command by tapping F8 using the
command I gave you for that location.
6) System Restore from Safe Mode with Networking
7) Last Known Good Configuration which takes all of a nanosecond to run.
I've given you homework of 7 tasks before I'd encourage you to spend your
money with a "professional" because most of us here have been students at
some college, and beyond and most of us remember that we didn't have a
helluva lot of extra money to spend before we saw if we could get something
done for free. I'm curious at this point while we have spent time trying to
help you just how many of these 7 things you've checked off your list.
I want to know exactly how you did the bootrec commands and what the command
prompt told you after each one. Did it say "not recognized" in which case
you didn't type them correctly, or did it tell you each one was successful?
If you haven't done the other 6 on the list, what are you waiting for?
Best,
CH
Thanks,
CH
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Chad Harris
Here are instructions as to how to use the 4 options at the Windows Advanced
Options menu you will see after tapping the "F8" key at the start. The F8
menu looks like this:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa76/indyank/techbliss/Vista-Advanced-Boot-Options.jpg
Directions on how to use it are here:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/help/f9c50a72-04ec-4088-9fd4-a4f979eef5a71033.mspx
Good luck and let me know what happened after you complete my 7 quick
homework assignments,
CH
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r3n3r4d3
Hi CH
One Question before i do System restore.
Does System Restore mean all my files are wiped and the whole system
restores or..?
For the command Prompt. I did exactly what you said. and each time it
says successful. When i typed bootrec /rebuildbcd, it told me to wait
for a bit, then the Successful message came on afterwards.
I don't know how to do the Seagate hard drive test, do i use a USB
stick? (sorry i'm not that good with computers when problems arise
because i'm scared i'll do something wrong and completely destroy my
computer)
Thanks
R3n
> "r3n3r4d3" <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:a813d4aaf9b45fed...@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
> > >
> > > i did the startup repair, which didnt work. I also did the cmd prompt
> > > thing and enter those 3 commands. but it doesnt work.
> > >
> > > Both resulted in 5 mins wait of the Vista Loading Bar Screen. Then
> > the
> > > Blue screen comes out. then restarts my computer.
> > >
> > > So i guess my only chance is to take it to a professional right?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > r3n3r4d3 > >
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r3n3r4d3
i did that already. and it came out as Test Status: #10009- Replace Hard
Disk
But it doesnt say Pass/Fail
Chad Harris;1017900 Wrote:
> r3--
>
> This is one test to see if an HP Pavillion HD is damaged.
>
> Restart PC>tap F10 when you see the HP or Compaq logo screen>when you
> reach
> bios setup use the keys to select the diagnostics tab>select "hard
> drive
> self test" and press enter>find something entertaining to do for 40
> minutes>the grading system is pass/fail here.
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
> 'HP PAVILION BIOS hard drive test new - Test, New, and Drive'
> (http://www.scribd.com/doc/3520188/HP-PAVILION-BIOS-hard-drive-test-new)
>
> "r3n3r4d3" <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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> > >
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Chad Harris
Thanks for the feedback letting me know you ran the bootrec commands
correctly. They are powerful when they work, and they have pulled me out
over the last 3 years with Vista and a couple times with builds of Win 7
recently very nicely. Sorry they didn't work.
I gave you a very simple way to test whether your hard drive is in the land
of the living and working in the post labled HP Hard Drive test. It isn't
100 percent perfect, but it's darn close.
I want you to do that simple test--click on the post labled HP Pavillion HD
Test, and I want you to follow these directions to use Seagate tools. Since
we're trying to diagnose something very important, whether we have a working
hard drive, I want you to run ***both tests.*** Seagate provides good
instructions at the link I'm going to give you, but if you have any
questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Seatools won't hurt your Windows installation at all. Scan the explanations
I provided in the tutorial, but don't spend a lot of time reading the
tutorial or the .pdf below it. The HP test is very reliable and takes just
seconds to start, so get that going. It takes 30-40 minutes to run.
Actually, if it says your HD passes, I'd go on and try the System Restores
and Last Known Good but to be sure Seagate is another test of your HD.
Seatools
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools
Seatools Tutorial
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=170511
Seatools Explanation
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/SeaTools_for_Windows.pdf
Remember if your hard drive passes both the Seatools test, and the simple
one I gave you that HP Pavillion provides at the bios setup reached by
tapping the F10 key, then I want you to run System restore at 3 places on
the menu you reach from tapping the F8 key. If none of the 3 is successful,
and by that I mean
Safe Mode
Safe Mode with Command
Safe Mode with Networking
then I want you to be sure and try Last Known Good. LKG is a longer
shot--it's a registry snapshot, but like in a football game, when you throw
a "Hail Mary pass" and you win--the crowd cheers, and the babes follow.
***System Restore***
Why run at 3 locations? Because often one will work when the other don't.
The same for last known good configuration at that menu. Many a person has
lost their information because they were ignorant of the fact they need to
try SR at all 3 locations + Last Known Good Configuration.
I'm sure glad you asked. System restore is still a very useful tool even in
the age of electric cars, Apple touch tablets, and seals shooting pirates
out of the water from destroyers, and the first Argentinean to win the
Masters.
System restore will not lose anything significant whatsoever. It does not
even track or impact your documents which will come back if it is
successful. All your settings will be intact. The only thing that you may
lose, despite the literally hundreds of articles I've read on it including
several from the members of the MSFT team who writes System Restore, after
having done many of them myself and for other people are
1) Applications that you installed AFTER the restore point.
2) Shortcuts that you put on the desktop or somewhere else AFTER the restore
point.
Those are usually not too significant to most people, and they become
completely insignificant if you get back everything else including your
settings intact.
What is system restore and why when it works is it as good as you say it is?
In Vista and Windows 7, System Restore is a snapshot of your settings and
everything else using a system from the Windows server technology that
originated in Win Server 2003 called Volume Shadow copies which back up your
registry and system files. VSS operates at the block level. It takes
snapshots of a file or folder on a specific volume at a specific point in
time. There are a lot of nuances, and I can give you a bibliography when you
have the time and desire to read it. There are nuance differences between
Vista Home and the more expensive versions, but the bottom line is
***You won't lose anything significant and sometimes you don't even lose
shortcuts or apps installed SINCE THE RESTORE POINT. If the restore point
is very recent, there aren't many of those likely. You will not lose your
documents or your schoolwork related files. I repeat you will not lose your
documents or your schoolwork related files.***
How System Restore's VSS Works MSFT Technet
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785914.aspx
Good luck,
CH
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Chad Harris
It's looking like you then ***may*** have to replace the HD. But if I were
you, before coming to that conclusion, and seeing how much the local
information retrievers would charge you to get information back from it, I'd
sure run the Seatools diagnostics. And I would certainly try the system
restores and last known good since they cost nothing but a few minutes of
your time.
With these modalities, ya never know 'til you try and there is no downside
to doing them.
CH
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Cody Jarrett
wrote:
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>i did that already. and it came out as Test Status: #10009- Replace Hard
>Disk
>
>But it doesnt say Pass/Fail
How much more "fail" can you get than "Replace Hard Disk"!??
Steve McGarrett
wrote:
>Does System Restore mean all my files are wiped and the whole system
>restores or..?
Not if you mean the System Restore that Windows uses.
If you mean "System Recovery"... yeah, it wipes everything.
Steve McGarrett
wrote:
>
>i did that already. and it came out as Test Status: #10009- Replace Hard
>Disk
>
>But it doesnt say Pass/Fail
It failed. Replace it.
Chad Harris
if you followed the thread, he was asking about F8 which reaches the Win
Advanced Options menu where you can acess system restore, some other
options, and "last known good configuration". Only system restore is
available behind the safe modes I mentioned in about 5 posts and linked.
You said "system recovery" (which is really a vague term) wipes everything.
If you mean the erratic and often no efficacy OEM piece of junk recovery
discs, or recovery partitions, they restore back to "factory settings" but
a high percent of the time do absolutely zip. I have hundreds of posts on
this group over 3 + years trying to fix Won't Boot Vistas, and I've never
recommended them since I did the same thing on the XP groups.
None of the options from Vista Startup Repair lose anything either when they
work, or when they don't.
None of the options I ever suggest lose anything significant. System
restore sometimes as I repeatedly said, can lose the shortcuts on the
desktop since the RESTORE point, or programs/updates installed since the
restore point. Otherwise it loses nothing when it works or when it does
not.
CH
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be dead. You didn't read the info I provided, and you're ignorant of the
fact that no hard drive diagnostic is 100%. The best are 75-90% accurate.
That's why as in medicine, it's wise to do another test.
And again there is no downside to using the F8 options at all. If HP and
Seagate fall in the category that the HD is still intact, and there's a 25%
chance they do, then the OP has thrown a lot of money away when he could
have recovered his OS for free with a few minutes time.
I had a Dell diagnostic I ran on a box that began to say that said the HD
had failed after the firmware or DELL screen. It booted perfectly. I ran a
specific Dell diagnostic run by the hardware team at Roundrock, and not
understood by the contract phone support for Dell at all. It confirmed the
hard drive was "failing."
Two years later, I was still running the hard drive with the same speed, and
no problems booting or problems requiring a chkdsk or anything else with the
HD. So my experience there fell in the 25% false positive range.
When you test patients for SLE or Lupus, many of the major tests have as
high as a 35%-40% false positive. You'd be stupid to Dx them all with
Lupus. There are a list of about 50 other situations where the Lupus lab
tests are false positive as well. Do yourself a favor or not and google for
specificity, sensitivity, false positive, and false negative.
My advice was on the money.
BTW you didn't volunteer it but to jump and pay for hard drive recovery can
average about $1600. That's more than valet parking on a Saturday night and
a lot for a college student or a good number of people.
CH
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Chad Harris
school related docs and files which he apparently hadn't backed up (or he
wouldn't be worried about losing them). If the OP were someone who didn't
care what was on the HD, then I'd be a lot quicker to say go out and buy a
SATA or two HD with as much storage space as you can afford, which are
always on sale rather drastically reduced.
If you find yourself trying to recover files from a HD, then you've screwed
up and haven't heeded the warning to Backup, Backup, Backup regularly.
None of the points below was made by the brilliant posts to sack the HD
based on a test that has limited accuracy and that's unfortunte.
1) If and when the F8 options recovery the OS via Sys Restore or LKG, run
the HD diagnostics again. They are rough guides at best, and if they say
"failed" the HD may be "failing" and it could go the next minute or it could
go many months from now. Back up your important files, docs, folders, pics,
and music to DVD or to a working hard drive.
2) Often an increased load on the power supply can cause apparent HD
failure, although this isn't well known and appreciated. An example would
be a hot new vid/graphics card that demanded more power. If you had it
available, you could try adding a new PSU, but most people won't and most
times they are proprietary although HPs aren't as a rule, so you could
remove components that might be placing demand on the power.
3) If the temp is fine, and the PSU is not the problem, cables can be the
problem and the HD can be fine. Simply replacing the cables with a known
good cable, including the power cable before you give up on the HD makes
sense. It costs pennies,and takes all of about 20 minutes tops. Power
cables rarely fail, but they do fail.
4) Try connecting the HD to a different interface with a different MOBO.
Try installing the HD in another system that is working, and see what
happens. If it works, it gives you time to recover what you don't want to
lose and back it up. Then replacing the HD is no big deal.
5) As loopy as this sounds, this is recommended by all the O'Reilly HD
experts and rarely they work. These are hail marys: a) You have nothing
whatsoever to lose by taking the HD out and giving it a thump against a
padded surface, and if it starts up hit it with a rubber mallot. Sure,
there will always be a brain surgeon that will post that anyone suggesting
it needs a padded cell, but no less than Thompson and Thompson recommend
this in every one of their excellent books on repairing boxes.
b) You can try to restore electromagnetism to the HD by placing it plastic
protected in a freezer for an hour, taking it out and hooking up.
CH
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affordable for a college student with average funds for a college student?
How much is the fee on average? Many of the services I've talked to want a
minimum of $1600.
How many college students do you know who have that kind of discretionary
money?
CH
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halfhead1004
Ok, my Gf is having the same sorta issue on her HP pavilion dv6000. But
you guys seem to keep talking about the HDD... I dont know about you but
I can load up safe mode in either comand prompt or /w networking. HDD
still there, all data is fine. If you can access safe mode i recommend
it for backing up your shtuff before bringing it to a "pro". Ive lost
data because idiot "pros" just decide to do a complete reinstall....
morons!
So here's my theory. Video card issue. Although, i did read something
about it being a CPU issue, but maybe the problem differs with the users
and forum threads ive seen about this.
Another theory..... which isnt much of a theory its more a
statement.... VISTA IS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DELETE IT NOW AND BURN
THE CD/DVD IN A RITUAL, CLEANING YOUR SOULS!!!!! either that, and/or HP
Pavillion is the problem with its cheap HP parts. Thank god for
warrenty.
Anyways, I think the guys earlier saying to go to a "pro" is the best
solution, BUT, I recommend that you enter safe-mode, back your data up
and go to a pro. or even reinstall windows first(after backup) THEN go
to a "pro" if that fails. Just back up first >.< I lost 80gig of music i
was recording over 13 years after bringing my PC to a shop. Lucky I
recovered it.....
CIAOOO
-Halfhead
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