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 More options Jul 7, 9:26 am
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services
From: jekiser <jekiser.3uy...@DoNotSpam.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:56:11 +0530
Local: Tues, Jul 7 2009 9:26 am
Subject: Synch Reports don't match

I'm relatively new to WSUS 3.0, so bear with me as I try to describe my
problem.

I have a single upstream server, with 30 replica downstream servers.
If I log into any of the downstream servers and view the
synchronizations, they are running successfully every morning.  However,
If I view the 'Downstream Servers' container in my Upstream Server, I'm
seeing servers that 'have not synchronized in x days where x is between
10 and 15.

As such, when I view the top level 'Computers' container under the
Upstream server, the rollup statistics do not match the 'Computers'
container on each of the downstream servers.

In fact, one of my Downstream servers has never reported in to the
Upstream server, according to the Upstream server, yet looking at the
downstream server, it indicates that it's synchronizing daily.

I've attached 3 BMP files that show one such example.  Diagram 1 shows
the upstream server with downstream8 highlighted.  hasn't synched in 12
days.  

Diagram 2 shows the computers bucket from downstream8.  a completely
different set of numbers with regard to the computers reported in.

Diagram 3 shows the computers bucket from the upstream server, with
downstream 8 visible.  

One final note... if i log into the actual wsus server and look at the
console, it is identical to Diagram 2, from my local pc console.

Apologies for the ramblings, and thank you in advance for any
assistance you can provide.  I will do my best to provide answers to
questions you may have for me.

Regards,

JK

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Lawrence Garvin [MVP]  
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 More options Jul 7, 1:29 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services
From: "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" <lawre...@news.postalias>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:29:10 -0500
Local: Tues, Jul 7 2009 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: Synch Reports don't match

"jekiser" <jekiser.3uy...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message

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> I have a single upstream server, with 30 replica downstream servers.
> If I log into any of the downstream servers and view the
> synchronizations, they are running successfully every morning.  However,
> If I view the 'Downstream Servers' container in my Upstream Server, I'm
> seeing servers that 'have not synchronized in x days where x is between
> 10 and 15.
> In fact, one of my Downstream servers has never reported in to the
> Upstream server, according to the Upstream server, yet looking at the
> downstream server, it indicates that it's synchronizing daily.

The key here is to understand the difference between what happens between
synchronization and reporting. The reason your upstream server shows that
replicas have not synchronized is because the *reporting* is failing. The
replica server cannot report a successful synchronization until *after* that
synchronization has actually completed successfully. This is a function of
reporting.

> As such, when I view the top level 'Computers' container under the
> Upstream server, the rollup statistics do not match the 'Computers'
> container on each of the downstream servers.

This is generally a normal condition, and is a function of the time delay
between when the client computer reports to the replica computer, and when
the replica computer reports to the upstream server, and when the upstream
server actually processed that queued reporting data into the database.

Of course, if the replica server is not reporting correctly, then this
information will also be compromised, but in an of itself, it's not
indicative or conclusive of anything specific.

The thing to do is review the %ProgramFiles%\Update
Services\Logfiles\SoftwareDistribution.log for issues encountered by the
replica servers during the reporting events.

Also review the IIS logs on the upstream server for the same time block to
determine how IIS is handling the reporting connection requests coming from
the replica servers.

Finally, also review the Application Event Log on the replica servers.

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Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
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 More options Jul 7, 4:26 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services
From: jekiser <jekiser.3uz...@DoNotSpam.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:56:46 +0530
Local: Tues, Jul 7 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Synch Reports don't match

Inadvertently posted in another thread.  

Thank you for all your help.  I sifted through the logs and located the
problem.  

Due to last month's Patch Cycle from Microsoft, we had to re-install
WSUS on half our servers.  Apparently, I did not repermission the
folders correctly, as such, the Rollup couldn't report correctly.

Thanks again.

Lawrence Garvin [MVP]    Posts: n/a  

Re: Synch Reports don't match

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"jekiser" <jekiser.3uy...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message

news:jekiser.3uyjjb@DoNotSpam.com...

> I have a single upstream server, with 30 replica downstream servers.
> If I log into any of the downstream servers and view the
> synchronizations, they are running successfully every morning.
However,
> If I view the 'Downstream Servers' container in my Upstream Server,
I'm
> seeing servers that 'have not synchronized in x days where x is
between
> 10 and 15.
> In fact, one of my Downstream servers has never reported in to the
> Upstream server, according to the Upstream server, yet looking at
the
> downstream server, it indicates that it's synchronizing daily.

The key here is to understand the difference between what happens
between
synchronization and reporting. The reason your upstream server shows
that
replicas have not synchronized is because the *reporting* is failing.
The
replica server cannot report a successful synchronization until *after*
that
synchronization has actually completed successfully. This is a function
of
reporting.

> As such, when I view the top level 'Computers' container under the
> Upstream server, the rollup statistics do not match the 'Computers'
> container on each of the downstream servers.

This is generally a normal condition, and is a function of the time
delay
between when the client computer reports to the replica computer, and
when
the replica computer reports to the upstream server, and when the
upstream
server actually processed that queued reporting data into the
database.

Of course, if the replica server is not reporting correctly, then this
information will also be compromised, but in an of itself, it's not
indicative or conclusive of anything specific.

The thing to do is review the %ProgramFiles%\Update
Services\Logfiles\SoftwareDistribution.log for issues encountered by
the
replica servers during the reporting events.

Also review the IIS logs on the upstream server for the same time block
to
determine how IIS is handling the reporting connection requests coming
from
the replica servers.

Finally, also review the Application Event Log on the replica servers.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pro...awrence.Garvin

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