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Gabriel

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:54:04 AM11/18/09
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Hi, i'm in the process of buying all the components I need to build my own
Media Center extender with a Windows 7 O/S.

This extender will NOT be connecting to any Sat-Top-Box, it will mainly be
used to stream my DVD videos, music and will act as my DVD/Blu-Ray player in
my family room.

Question: What product do I need so that I can use a Remote Control to
navigate the Windows 7 Media Center application without having to use a
Keyboard or a mouse?

More importantly, should I buy a media center case that has a built-in
IR-receiver, or does that not matter. Techincally i'm trying to understand
what steps need to be done to configure the Remote Control and how it
connects to the motherboard, etc...

Thanks for any help you can provide!!

Barb Bowman

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:40:18 AM11/18/09
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You can't use a computer as an extender.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:54:04 -0800, Gabriel <Gab...@discussions.microsoft.com>
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Barb Bowman
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Jaime

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:28:03 PM11/18/09
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You may be confusing terminology/technology.

An extender is a device that streams content from a MC PC to another
location, it does not connect to a cable/Sat box (the MC computer does
that). As Barbara pointed out, you can't "build" an Extender per se, you can
only buy one. They are typically small, silent, purpose-built hardware
devices made by specific manufacturers, they are not full-featured
computers.

There are several ways you could use a PC to mimic some of the features of
an Extender (like placing the media in a shared network folder) or there are
some 3rd party solutions (such as Webguide,
http://www.asciiexpress.com/webguide/), but it doesn't support Windows 7
currently.
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Hot-text

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:00:11 PM11/18/09
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Barb Bowman Why You can't use a computer as an extender?
Do you Know till us!!!!!


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Barb Bowman

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:00:10 PM11/18/09
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and currently, other than the Xbox 360, all the vendors that produced Vista/W7
compatible V2 extenders other than D-Link (DSM-750) have discontinued their
products. Many audio/video enthusiasts find the 360 too noisy.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:28:03 -0500, "Jaime" <NOSPAMj...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>An extender is a device that streams content from a MC PC to another
>location, it does not connect to a cable/Sat box (the MC computer does
>that). As Barbara pointed out, you can't "build" an Extender per se, you can
>only buy one. They are typically small, silent, purpose-built hardware
>devices made by specific manufacturers, they are not full-featured
>computers.

David B.

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:08:41 PM11/18/09
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Because you can't.

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Hot-text

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:24:58 PM11/18/09
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Jaime you say:: you can't "build" an Extender per se, and only buy one!!
came on someone build the one you can buy mmmm


Gabriel say:: Technically I'm trying to understand what steps need to be

done to configure the Remote Control and how it connects to the motherboard,
etc...

Gabriel you need a TV Tuner Card For your PC (motherboard) they come as a
TV Tuner Card or TV Tuner Card Video adapter Card to
start with when you get we be here to Help you!!!!
My a TV Tuner Card Video adapter Card by:: 3dfx Voodoo 3 TV/FM Video adapter
Card!!


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Jaime

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:46:11 PM11/18/09
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I told Gabriel that "he" could not build one. I did not say that they can
not be built.
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David B.

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:24:27 PM11/18/09
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Your posts for the most part so far have been pointless, unless you have
something useful to contribute maybe you should find something else to do
with your time.

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Curious

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:29:54 PM11/18/09
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AFAIK there are specific hardware interface commands between the MCE host
and the MCE extenders and the interface is patented protected by MS. This
prevents unlicensed vendors/manufacturers from building MCE extenders since
they patent protected.

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Hot-text

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:10:42 PM11/18/09
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Jaime I told BILL Microsoft that you can not build windows Software in a
IBM PC that is DOS
Now Look were we are to Day Hmmmm


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Gabriel

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:18:02 PM11/18/09
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Thanks for the information Jaimie and everyone else.

Maybe I shouldn't have called it an "extender" that I wanted. But basically
what i have going on in my house is i have a master server which contains all
my movies that have been digitized. The movies will be created on the server
to work with the "My Movies" software
http://www.mymovies.dk/products/windows-media-center.aspx

I want another very small (noiseless) PC preferably in a media center
pc-case that blends right-in with my sterio equipment. This pc will be able
to connect to my master server so that my master server streams the DVD
content to my my TV.

I know for a fact, this works already. When I launch the Microsoft Media
Center application in Windows 7 on my laptop, I configured it to scan my
master server to see all my available DVD movies. Which streams it perfectly
to my laptop.

If it can stream to my laptop, it definately should be able to stream to my
TV if I built a custom pc to do it.

My main question on this thread was, what additional hardware/product would
I need, to be able to use a remote-control to navigate the Media Center
application without using a mouse or keyboard.

"Jaime" wrote:

> .
>

Hot-text

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:58:39 PM11/18/09
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Windows Media Center in Windows 7
Dam we all here Know Windows Media Center in Windows XP
LOOL

Maybe you Know more then the Group you in (Gabriel)

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Jaime

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:33:02 PM11/18/09
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You have a couple of options, the simplest is to buy a MC remote kit, which
will include a remote, an IR Receiver, and one or two IR Emitters
(blasters). The receiver will plug via USB into the PC (the emitters, if
needed, would plug into the receiver and then be attached to cable/sat box)

Here's and example at newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121001

There are other variations floating around, just make sure it work for the
version of MC you have. I believe the the newer MC versions will work with
all remotes, but the newer remotes don't work with the older versions of MC.
Many of the remotes that come with tuner cards are not MC compiant.

Once you have a proper MC IR receiver, you also could use many of the
universal remotes as well to lessen clutter; I use the Logitech Harmony
remotes with my MC computer and Linksys Extender.

There are also MC wireless KB available that have full KB functions, along
with a built-in mouse/track/pad, and have the special MC buttons.
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David B.

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:00:19 AM11/19/09
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Your a moron, go out and play hopscotch with your girlfriends

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Curious

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:03:15 AM11/19/09
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This newsgroup is for the support of the Media Center application running
on any version of Windows
Many of us are running and providing support of Win7 MC in this newsgroup.

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jolt

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:57:15 AM11/19/09
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If you prefer one remote to control all your equipment you can buy a usb ir
receiver thru Ebay and pair it with a Harmony remote. While a limited number
of motherboards do have a header to connect an ir receiver IMHO it would not
be worth limiting your options trying find one that fulfills your needs and
has such a connection.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Media-Center-Keyboard%2fRemote-IR-RC6-Receiver-_W0QQitemZ200406092746QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&itemid=200406092746

There are plenty of options to build or purchase a small form factor PC that
will work for what you are looking to do. I plan to build one during the
holidays that will likely be mounted to the back of an LCD television.

The ION platform with a dual core atom processor should be powerful enough
to do the trick.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/16340

If I understand you objective correctly you want to build a PC to stream
content from a server or the internet to a television, not an extender. If
so this advise would apply.

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Hot-text

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:13:22 PM11/19/09
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Typo
Jaime you will told BILL Microsoft that you can not build windows Software
in a
IBM PC that is DOS
Now Look were we are to Day Hmmmm

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Gabriel

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:33:02 PM11/19/09
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Thank you so much Jaime for the feedback. It was extremely helpful and a
time-saver... so that i didn't buy all these products that I may not need.

The link was even more helpful as a picture can say a thousand words. LOL!

Looks like al i need then is this remote kit and the receiver if all i want
to do is operate in the Windows Media Center environment.

Your the best!
Many blessings!

"Jaime" wrote:

> .
>

Hot-text

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:33:49 PM11/19/09
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Then we need providing support for (Gabriel)
to say You can't use a computer as an extender. is not support or help at
all
or to say Because you can't .. is not support or help at all too!
we all need support or help at time and I one know a good supporter when I
see one!
so you are right Curious keep up the good work. For we all need to hear a
word of support .
Thank you
Curious

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> This newsgroup is for the support of the Media Center application running
> on any version of Windows
> Many of us are running and providing support of Win7 MC in this newsgroup.
>
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>> Windows Media Center in Windows 7
>> Dam we all here Know Windows Media Center in Windows XP
>> LOOL
>>
>> Maybe you Know more then the Group you in
>>
>>

Jaime

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:03:58 PM11/19/09
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As they say in Costa Rica - "con mucho gusto!"
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Sven

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I think it may just be a terminology issue. Sounds like what the OP is
building is an MCE (Media Center Edition), not MCE (Media Center Extender).
Even with out a tuner Win 7 makes a pretty nice media interface. If there is
another media machine in the house, you can get virtually all the media off
that other machine using the Media Center Interface by assigning network
shares, drive letters and pointing the Win 7 machine at those sources. It is
pretty darn close to being what we understand is a 'dedicated hardware
MCExtender'.

I think what you are looking for is something like this,
http://www.xpcgear.com/remotevista.html, though just Binging Media Center
Remote Control gets tons of hits. I must say that my favorite is
http://reviews.cnet.com/keyboards/gyration-media-center-pc/4505-3134_7-32331445.html.
The remote has mouse capabilities which most don't, and the wireless
keyboard is very handy for typying searches, or when you drop out of the 10
foot experience.

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David B.

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Go away troll

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if you E-mail me it would go in to my Junk e-mail and the item will be
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David B.

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"Barb Bowman" <ba...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> and currently, other than the Xbox 360, all the vendors that produced
> Vista/W7
> compatible V2 extenders other than D-Link (DSM-750) have discontinued
> their
> products. Many audio/video enthusiasts find the 360 too noisy.
>

Personally I was disappointed to find that the Linksys DMA2100 and DMA2200
were discontinued because I own several of each and have found that with a
few additional pieces of software that they work quite well in a mixed
Windows Vista/Windows 7environment. I particularly like how quiet they are
and the price point (I paid $79 for the DMA2100 and $99 for the DMA2200). I
also think that the product quality was outstanding.

I've tried to use my XBox360 as an extender, but as you mention, it is far
too noisy to be placed in a serious environment for watching progamming and
it also is fairly power-hungry when compared to the stand-alone extender
boxes.

-Pete


Barb Bowman

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Hi Pete,
I agree the yearly $$ for running 360's is also not pretty.

But I'm curious as to what additional software and tweaks you've added to the
mix ;-)

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>Personally I was disappointed to find that the Linksys DMA2100 and DMA2200
>were discontinued because I own several of each and have found that with a
>few additional pieces of software that they work quite well in a mixed
>Windows Vista/Windows 7environment. I particularly like how quiet they are
>and the price point (I paid $79 for the DMA2100 and $99 for the DMA2200). I
>also think that the product quality was outstanding.
>
>I've tried to use my XBox360 as an extender, but as you mention, it is far
>too noisy to be placed in a serious environment for watching progamming and
>it also is fairly power-hungry when compared to the stand-alone extender
>boxes.

Pete Delgado

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"Barb Bowman" <ba...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Pete,
> I agree the yearly $$ for running 360's is also not pretty.
>
> But I'm curious as to what additional software and tweaks you've added to
> the
> mix ;-)

I use many of the "standard" media tools on the system such as AnyDVD and
DVDShrink. I use many of the specific MCE tools that other folks on TGB have
been using and advocating as well. I've also got a couple of small
applications that I have personally written -I 'm a software developer and
can't help myself! ;-)

-Pete


Barb Bowman

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sounds cool ;-)

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>I've also got a couple of small

>applications that I have personally written -I 'm a software developer and
>can't help myself! ;-)

Pete Delgado

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"Barb Bowman" <ba...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> sounds cool ;-)
>

The cool part (or the difficult part depending upon how you look at it) is
the fact that I am running an AD domain *and* a WHS within my network! There
are a variety of reasons for using a full domain (testing, use of Team
Foundation Server and domain group policy + roaming profiles) and for using
WHS within it (image backups, tv archive, development platform).

PS: Thanks for your blogs and articles Barb. I've really enjoyed them over
the years!

-Pete


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