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Flappetap

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Dec 7, 2005, 3:02:02 AM12/7/05
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Is it possible to change te language of windows XP 64 pro?
Windows XP 64 is only available in english, since i'm from Holland i like to
have it in dutch. I thought perhaps there's some kind of language pack tool
which converts the english to dutch, i already found local language packs,
but these won't change my for example start-menu.

Carlos

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Dec 7, 2005, 5:33:03 AM12/7/05
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Jud Hendrix

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Dec 7, 2005, 2:52:58 PM12/7/05
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:33:03 -0800, Carlos
<Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

Can you make a mix of the German, French, Italian and Swedish one?
That mix resembles Dutch most ;-)

jud

Colin Barnhorst

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Dec 7, 2005, 3:48:40 PM12/7/05
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So do some nouns I hear on the golf course. :)

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Wim Zefat

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Dec 7, 2005, 4:31:41 PM12/7/05
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You forgot the language closest related to Dutch: English ;-)

In fact, if you simply talk Dutch with an English accent, an English
speaker will understand about half of what you say. Of course, the other
half will range from utter gibberish to hilarious misunderstandings.
There's a fairly famous joke about a Dutch lady who tried that when, on
vacation in England, someone asked her what she did for a living. This lady
owned a dog-kennel and sold pedigreed dogs, so she tried to say 'I breed
dogs'. The Dutch word for 'to breed' is 'fok' - pronounced somewhat like
another f-word you know...

Wim

Op Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:52:58 +0100 schreef Jud Hendrix:

Wim Zefat

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Dec 7, 2005, 4:41:41 PM12/7/05
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As already mentioned here, yes, you can change the language in Windows XP
x64 by installing a Multilingual User Interface (MUI) pack. Unfortunately,
there's no Dutch MUI-pack for XP x64.

Ive read in several places though that the MUI language packs for XP 64 are
in fact identical to the ones for Windows Server 2003 x64 - and there is a
Dutch pack for that. It might work on XP x64 as well. The problem there
though is to get hold of the disc - I haven't managed that so far, so I
haven't been able to try it.

Wim

Op Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:02:02 -0800 schreef Flappetap:

Carlos

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Dec 7, 2005, 4:44:02 PM12/7/05
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More or less like the mix you gotta do to fabricate an argentinian guy.
Here goes the recipe:
Take an italian, make him speak Spanish, teach him French manners and make
him believe he is from England.
Carlos (from Argentina)

Bo Persson

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Dec 7, 2005, 4:52:06 PM12/7/05
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"Wim Zefat" <w...@nospam.xs4all.nl> skrev i meddelandet
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> You forgot the language closest related to Dutch: English ;-)
>
> In fact, if you simply talk Dutch with an English accent, an English
> speaker will understand about half of what you say.
>Of course, the other
> half will range from utter gibberish to hilarious misunderstandings.

But the other half *really* does look like a combination of German and
Swedish.

I'm swedish. Having had English and German classes in school, I
understand an amazing amount of Dutch, when in writing.

When spoken, it is gibberish, of course.


Bo Persson

Wim Zefat

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Dec 7, 2005, 6:08:58 PM12/7/05
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True - I've seen Swedish texts and noticed there were often enough
recognizable words in there to at least figure out what the text was about
(I'm Dutch, by the way). Hearing it is something else though.

Not too surprising really, as English, Dutch, German, Swedish and serveral
other languages really are closely related and have pretty much the same
ancestry. They all have pretty much the same sentence structure and share a
lot of words. If you speak one of these languages, it's fairly easy to
learn a second one. If, like you, you speak three of them, the fourth one
becomes *almost* recognizable - unlike unrelated languages, such as French
or Italian.

I live near the German border and even now the old local dialect is pretty
much the same on this side of the border as it is on the other one. The
dialects are eroding fast on both sides though. To the younger generation
the dialect, as spoken by some of the really old people, has become just
about unintelligable. I'm somewhere in between - I understand most of what
they're saying, but there are still words and expressions in there that
might as well be Swahili (or maybe Swedish ;-), as far as I'm concerned...

Wim

Op Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:52:06 +0100 schreef Bo Persson:

Colin Barnhorst

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Dec 7, 2005, 6:24:59 PM12/7/05
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My wife grew up in a Canadian community where Plattdeutch was a living
dialect. It has died out there now.

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Wim Zefat

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Dec 7, 2005, 6:54:55 PM12/7/05
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Won't be long here either. As tiny as The Netherlands is, in the days of my
grandfather the people from different parts of the country still spoke
dialects that were often very different from one another. Now pretty much
everyone speaks only ABN (Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands - which translates
pretty much as General, Civilised Dutch).

By now there's really only one dialect left: Fries. And I hope nobody from
that region reads this, as they'll chew my head off for calling it a
dialect - they maintain that it's a separate language from Dutch and teach
it in school alongside Dutch. And they might be right - at least nobody
else understands a word of it...

Wim


Op Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:24:59 -0700 schreef Colin Barnhorst:

Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Dec 7, 2005, 8:22:39 PM12/7/05
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Hello,
Well at least some of my relatives were from that region.

All my grandparents or their parents were from Holland.
My parents spoke Dutch, however outside of a few phrases, I don't
understand it any longer.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Andre Da Costa [Extended64]

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Dec 8, 2005, 6:14:32 PM12/8/05
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Carlos, is it true that its easy for a French or Spanish person to interpret
either language because both share the same conjugations?
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Carlos

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Dec 9, 2005, 7:19:01 AM12/9/05
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Andre:
It is not easy to interpret.
It is easy to study because they are both latin based languages.
But if you don't know anything about French, no spanish speaking native can
understand anything.
Portuguese and Spanish are very similar languages.
Different, but similar.
They can both understand between themselves speaking slowly and clearly.
Argentinians and Brazilians use a mix of both languages to commuinicate
between themselves.
There is no standard about it but we call it "Portuñol" a wierd mix of
Portugues and Español (spanish).
As a matter of fact you only need to know Spanish in continental America
from Mexico down to the south.
Spanish and Italian are also latin based.
There are many common words and a very basic level of dialogue can be
developed between the two.
Argentinian Spanish has taken many words on account of the huge immigration
of italians during the XX century.
What about Jamaica?
Carlos

Tamires Solteira

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:44:12 AM7/4/07
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oi meu anjo...tudo bem?
sua a postagem foi muito útil...
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