How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to send files to. You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To folder *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you release the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create shortcut" from that menu.
"TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > diddling have not figured out how to do it....
>How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
>I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this Send To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
glee wrote: > Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to send files > to. > You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To folder > *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you release > the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create shortcut" > from that menu.
> ...glen > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... >> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using a shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this Send > To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> glee wrote: > > Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > > Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to send > files > > to. > > You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To folder > > *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > > the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create shortcut" > > from that menu.
> > ...glen > > -- > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
> >> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and open it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
glee wrote: > What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using a > shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> ...glen > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that >> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this Send >> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some >> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
>> glee wrote: >>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. >>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to send >> files >>> to. >>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To folder >>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you >> release >>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create shortcut" >>> from that menu.
>>> ...glen >>> -- >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... >>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
An easy way that I have found is. Right click folder. Scroll to send to. Select desktop(create shortcut). Now on the new icon on desktop. Right click and select move to. When the pop-up window appears toggle to C/windows/startup and OK. Then you will have it in your send to list. Good Luck!
>-----Original Message----- >How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
>I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Correction; You put it in "Windows\SendTo" not "Startup" Also here is another tip. Go to this page http://www.gabrieleponti.com/ and Download his SendTo power toy. Much better than the one that MS used to have. On of the feature is that you can R-Click a file or folder and then select "Add to Send To" and the rest is done for you. It's in the "Spotlight" area at the top of his page and it's freeware. -- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
| An easy way that I have found is. Right click folder. | Scroll to send to. Select desktop(create shortcut). Now on | the new icon on desktop. Right click and select move to. | When the pop-up window appears toggle to C/windows/startup | and OK. Then you will have it in your send to list. | Good Luck!
| >-----Original Message----- | >How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in | the Send to | >menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I | have W 98 SE | > | >I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for | storage and | >have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far | after much | >diddling have not figured out how to do it.... | > | >Help is appreciated | > | >Thank you | > | >TJ | >. | >
one that MS used to have. On of the feature is that you can R-Click a file or folder and then select "Add to Send To" and the rest is done for you. It's in the "Spotlight" area at the top of his page and it's freeware.
>-- >George (Bindar Dundat) >Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. >If you find a solution outside of the news group >please post it here so that others may benefit
>| An easy way that I have found is. Right click folder. >| Scroll to send to. Select desktop(create shortcut). Now on >| the new icon on desktop. Right click and select move to. >| When the pop-up window appears toggle to C/windows/startup >| and OK. Then you will have it in your send to list. >| Good Luck! >| >-----Original Message----- >| >How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in >| the Send to >| >menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I >| have W 98 SE >| > >| >I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for >| storage and >| >have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far >| after much >| >diddling have not figured out how to do it.... >| > >| >Help is appreciated >| > >| >Thank you >| > >| >TJ >| >. >| > >.
There would not be any harm done. There is no Windows\Startup folder.:-) It's Windows\Start Menu\Startup and all that would happen is that there would be a program or folder unexpectedly opening at startup. try that toy that I mentioned. You will like what you can do with that. -- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
Guess nobody has tried this out yet? It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up directly, from within the app?
Bill in CO wrote: > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and open > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> glee wrote: >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using a >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
>> ...glen >> -- >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this Send >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
>>> glee wrote: >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to send >>>> files to. >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To folder >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you release >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create shortcut" >>>> from that menu.
>>>> ...glen >>>> -- >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 SE
>>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I don't install WordPad so I am taking your word for it.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
"Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message news:#tHX51j9CHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... | Guess nobody has tried this out yet? | It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. | Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. | Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send | To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it | should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up | directly, from within the app? |
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I thought there might be away to reconfigure it - like how the file name is passed as a parameter, using the % options (or whatever they are) - maybe in the registry - so it knows to use the long file name. Know what I mean?
glee wrote: > I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does > not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate > the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown > Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is > written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as > Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited > size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> ...glen > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:#tHX51j9CHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? >> It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. >> Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. >> Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send >> To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it >> should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up >> directly, from within the app?
>> Bill in CO wrote: >>> What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and >> open >>> it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact >>> (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To >>> Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 >>> filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
>>> glee wrote: >>>> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using >> a >>>> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? >>>> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
>>>> ...glen >>>> -- >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that >>>>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this >> Send >>>>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some >>>>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
>>>>> glee wrote: >>>>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. >>>>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to >> send >>>>>> files to. >>>>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To >> folder >>>>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you >> release >>>>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create >> shortcut" >>>>>> from that menu.
>>>>>> ...glen >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... >>>>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to >>>>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 >> SE
>>>>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >>>>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >>>>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
It has to be the same parameters sent to both Notepad & Wordpad. So, it's up to them which parameter they will use for file name. Odd the bigger one would choose badly, though.
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
>-----Original Message----- >Guess nobody has tried this out yet? >It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. >Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. >Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send >To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it >should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up >directly, from within the app?
>Bill in CO wrote: >> What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and >open >> it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact >> (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To >> Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 >> filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
>> glee wrote: >>> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using >a >>> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? >>> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
>>> ...glen >>> -- >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that >>>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I
think I've used this
>Send >>>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some >>>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
>>>> glee wrote: >>>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the
>>>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to >send >>>>> files to. >>>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To >folder >>>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you >release >>>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create >shortcut" >>>>> from that menu.
>>>>> ...glen >>>>> -- >>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and >>>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much >>>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
Not what I meant....I was thinking of Bill in CO's question about adding parameters to the Target field of the shortcut in the SendTo folder to by-pass the unwanted behaviour. That idea won't work though, because command line parameters in the Target field won’t work if you add the parameters to the shortcut in the SendTo folder and then right-click a file and send it to that shortcut.
Note that how the partcular program reacts when a file is dragged and dropped to it, is also how it will react when a file is sent through the SendTo menu to that app, so it appears to be determined solely by the app in question.
It has to be the same parameters sent to both Notepad & Wordpad. So, it's up to them which parameter they will use for file name. Odd the bigger one would choose badly, though.
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I see. That would have been nice, if it could be done in the shortcut in SendTo. Didn't occur to me.Yes, it has to be the app gets access to two file names, a short & a long. Some apps choose to use the short. OK, thanks.
I really don't see how Colorado can complain, though, as he himself has now chosen to be just CO!
Not what I meant....I was thinking of Bill in CO's question about adding parameters to the Target field of the shortcut in the SendTo folder to by-pass the unwanted behaviour. That idea won't work though, because command line parameters in the Target field won’t work if you add the parameters to the shortcut in the SendTo folder and then right-click a file and send it to that shortcut.
Note that how the partcular program reacts when a file is dragged and dropped to it, is also how it will react when a file is sent through the SendTo menu to that app, so it appears to be determined solely by the app in question.
It has to be the same parameters sent to both Notepad & Wordpad. So, it's up to them which parameter they will use for file name. Odd the bigger one would choose badly, though.
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
All LFN-aware apps have access to both the LFN's and the DOS names. It is up to the apps' code which it displays when a file is *dropped* on the open app, as opposed to when a file is opened through its open menu or through its association with the file (d-click). Why it is different for some apps and not for others, I have no idea....I'd love to hear a reason. :-)
I see. That would have been nice, if it could be done in the shortcut in SendTo. Didn't occur to me.Yes, it has to be the app gets access to two file names, a short & a long. Some apps choose to use the short. OK, thanks.
I really don't see how Colorado can complain, though, as he himself has now chosen to be just CO!
Not what I meant....I was thinking of Bill in CO's question about adding parameters to the Target field of the shortcut in the SendTo folder to by-pass the unwanted behaviour. That idea won't work though, because command line parameters in the Target field won’t work if you add the parameters to the shortcut in the SendTo folder and then right-click a file and send it to that shortcut.
Note that how the partcular program reacts when a file is dragged and dropped to it, is also how it will react when a file is sent through the SendTo menu to that app, so it appears to be determined solely by the app in question.
It has to be the same parameters sent to both Notepad & Wordpad. So, it's up to them which parameter they will use for file name. Odd the bigger one would choose badly, though.
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I can only guess the ones that don't use the LFN were written at the same time LFN processing was being developed. The programmer didn't want to risk doing it wrong or becoming incompatible with the pre-LFN OS, which was early Win95.
All LFN-aware apps have access to both the LFN's and the DOS names. It is up to the apps' code which it displays when a file is *dropped* on the open app, as opposed to when a file is opened through its open menu or through its association with the file (d-click). Why it is different for some apps and not for others, I have no idea....I'd love to hear a reason. :-)
I see. That would have been nice, if it could be done in the shortcut in SendTo. Didn't occur to me.Yes, it has to be the app gets access to two file names, a short & a long. Some apps choose to use the short. OK, thanks.
I really don't see how Colorado can complain, though, as he himself has now chosen to be just CO!
Not what I meant....I was thinking of Bill in CO's question about adding parameters to the Target field of the shortcut in the SendTo folder to by-pass the unwanted behaviour. That idea won't work though, because command line parameters in the Target field won’t work if you add the parameters to the shortcut in the SendTo folder and then right-click a file and send it to that shortcut.
Note that how the partcular program reacts when a file is dragged and dropped to it, is also how it will react when a file is sent through the SendTo menu to that app, so it appears to be determined solely by the app in question.
It has to be the same parameters sent to both Notepad & Wordpad. So, it's up to them which parameter they will use for file name. Odd the bigger one would choose badly, though.
Notepad and Wordpad are both 32-bit and have been since Win95. Also, the former does not exhibit the behaviour described when used through SendTo, but the latter does. I believe certain parameters are not passed when a file is sent through SendTo, but I do not know what.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:Odw#ewl9CHA.1868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I would think so as well Glen. I think that Notepad and WordPad are old 16 bit programs that were barely upgraded for Win 9x. If I get a chance I will load Programmers Notepad and try it there.
Yep...you're right. I just tried it with EditPad and it is fine there. So, if it is programming-related, it is from another standpoint. I can't see where in the Registry it would make any difference, which is why I tend to think has to do with program code.
...glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <Jus...@nothome.net> wrote in message news:uMsfhfk9CHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... And yet I use EditPad which does not have the "edit window" limit and the file name is fine in there. The file I just tried it with is "C:\My Documents\No Startup Group.txt" and that should show the problem.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
I have tried it and you are correct, but I have no fix for you. Notepad does not do it, but Wordpad does. Also, some third party editors also truncate the name the way Wordpad does, when sent through a Send To shortcut....Grown Up Notepad (GUN), QEditor. I think it has to do with how the program is written, since the programs that have the "edit window" limit (such as Notepad) do not exhibit this, but programs that can open files of unlimited size (Wordpad, GUN) do have this "bug".
> Guess nobody has tried this out yet? > It probably does the same thing in Notepad, and who knows what other apps. > Most annoying, as it really limits the usefulness of the Send To option. > Maybe there is a configuration switch someone knows about to force the Send > To option to be smart enough to ALWAYS use the long filenames - like it > should! I mean, why should we be forced to open the application up > directly, from within the app?
> Bill in CO wrote: > > What I mean is this: I can take a nice long file name text file, and > open > > it in Wordpad directly, and you see the long file name there - intact > > (including the save option). This does NOT happen when I use the Send To > > Wordpad method, however. Then, and only then, do you get the 8.3 > > filenames. (Try it if you don't believe me).
> > glee wrote: > >> What do you mean? Are you referring to sending a file to Wordpad using > a > >> shortcut to Wordpad in the Send To folder? > >> Wordpad always shows the file name in the title bar in 8.3 format.
> >> ...glen > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >> "Bill in CO" <wbhuff...@no.spam.earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:uRhA2nN9CHA.2308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> Related to this....have you ever noticed when you use this option, that > >>> some apps don't preserve the long file names? I think I've used this > Send > >>> To with Wordpad or Notepad, and only seen the 8.3 filenames (in some > >>> instances). Anybody else seen that happen?
> >>> glee wrote: > >>>> Open Windows Explorer or My Computer to the Windows\Send To folder. > >>>> Create a shortcut in the Send To folder, to the folder you want to > send > >>>> files to. > >>>> You can do this by dragging the folder in question to the Send To > folder > >>>> *using the right mouse button*...this will bring up a menu when you > release > >>>> the right mouse button over the Send To folder. Choose "Create > shortcut" > >>>> from that menu.
> >>>> ...glen > >>>> -- > >>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> >>>> "TJ" <tjbern...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>> news:rfd78v43rftavl2004hcna3khqqa43qecr@4ax.com... > >>>>> How do you alter the the menu for the options possible in the Send to > >>>>> menu after you have right clicked on a given item....? I have W 98 > SE
> >>>>> I would like to use certain folders that I use a lot for storage and > >>>>> have them identified in the Send to menu....but so far after much > >>>>> diddling have not figured out how to do it....
I just went through the index for my manual on VC++6 and I don't see anything there about the LFN handlers and the same applies VC++4 manual. I suspect that this may have been a problem in earlier versions. Going to the MSDN site for that info is a lost cause because all you can ever find is info pertaining to the .net framework and that is one area in which I have a total lack of interest. I have some older books around and I will see what I come across and post it if it is of a important nature.
-- George (Bindar Dundat) Computers don't prevent mistakes, they just make them faster. If you find a solution outside of the news group please post it here so that others may benefit
All LFN-aware apps have access to both the LFN's and the DOS names. It is up to the apps' code which it displays when a file is *dropped* on the open app, as opposed to when a file is opened through its open menu or through its association with the file (d-click). Why it is different for some apps and not for others, I have no idea....I'd love to hear a reason. :-)
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