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Ryan Wilderman  
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 More options Oct 31 2002, 2:06 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns
From: "Ryan Wilderman" <ryan.wilder...@storaenso.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:59:14 -0800
Local: Thurs, Oct 31 2002 1:59 pm
Subject: Resolving Problem
This is kind of a stab in the dark here, but I'm just
guessing that in Internet Explorer you are using exception
lists.  And in those exception lists, you have an entry
that resembles *.xyz.com.  This essentially tells the
client to stay inside of your proxy server to contact that
web server.  This is one of the many reasons it is
advisable to use a different DNS namespace on the inside
than you use on the outside.  A solution to this problem,
while not partiularly easy, is to update the exception
list on the clients to include more specific DNS
namespaces to stay on the inside for.  Such as
*intranet.xyz.com; etc.  This will allow the client to
stay on the inside of the Proxy server for accessing these
internal sites, yet still send the client through the
Proxy to the outside for accessing all other *.xyz.com
sites.

Hope this helps,

Ryan


 
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Ryan Wilderman  
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 More options Oct 31 2002, 4:04 pm
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From: "Ryan Wilderman" <ryan.wilder...@storaenso.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:23 -0800
Local: Thurs, Oct 31 2002 2:06 pm
Subject: Response to Michael Schmitz
Sorry, my bad.

This post was supposed to be a reply to Michael Schmitz's
question, not a new post.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Resolving Problem" by Ace Fekay [MVP]
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 More options Oct 31 2002, 9:24 pm
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From: "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseSubstituteMyFirstName&LastNameH...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:14:29 -0500
Local: Thurs, Oct 31 2002 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Resolving Problem

"Ryan Wilderman" <ryan.wilder...@storaenso.com> wrote in message

news:31b401c2810f$9b298fc0$2ae2c90a@phx.gbl...

I wouldn't say it is a rason to use a different namespace. On the contrary,
the same namespace is becoming more popular lately. The original MS
documentationrecommended the different namespaces, but that is now defunct
and out of date.

As Kevin answered Michael's original post, all you have to do is create the
necessary A record www and give it the IP of the external web server.
Another way is you can delegate www to the IP of the external webserver IP
also. This method offers less adminsitration if the ISP changes the website
IP for whatever reason.

Proxy server on the other hand, is a different ballgame. The internal
nameserver will be root for the AD zone (no forwarding). Proxy will handle
name resolution for the web services for the clients.

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
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Ryan Wilderman  
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 More options Nov 1 2002, 9:36 am
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns
From: "Ryan Wilderman" <ryan.wilder...@storaenso.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:29:54 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Resolving Problem
Ace,

I think you guys may be off base here.  Michael stated
that he can ping the name just fine from the inside, he
just can't get to it through a browser.  This would mean
DNS is functioning fine.  That's why I'm leaning towards
the proxy issue.

Ryan

namespace. On the contrary,
>the same namespace is becoming more popular lately. The
original MS
>documentationrecommended the different namespaces, but
that is now defunct
>and out of date.

>As Kevin answered Michael's original post, all you have
to do is create the
>necessary A record www and give it the IP of the external
web server.
>Another way is you can delegate www to the IP of the

external webserver IP


 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]  
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 More options Nov 1 2002, 9:26 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns
From: "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseSubstituteMyFirstName&LastNameH...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:13:42 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: Resolving Problem
"Ryan Wilderman" <ryan.wilder...@storaenso.com> wrote in message

news:317501c281b3$254393b0$36ef2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...

> Ace,

> I think you guys may be off base here.  Michael stated
> that he can ping the name just fine from the inside, he
> just can't get to it through a browser.  This would mean
> DNS is functioning fine.  That's why I'm leaning towards
> the proxy issue.

> Ryan

Hi Ryan

Michael didn't specifically state that he can ping by name, but for this
purpose, we'll assume that. I still don't think that would cause
justification of using a different namespace. But that can be a whole other
discussion that we'll leave for another time.

So if it is Proxy, and he didn't specify that either, but being a good
assumption, Proxy would still use DNS to resolve it. If he can ping by name
from the internal machine, then I am tending to think that he doesn't have a
Proxy, since it won't pass ICMP (most Proxies, depending on the vendor
and/or version).

I posted  a few questions to Michael. Maybe he isn';t reading the responses,
especially this thread. I mentioned that this thread exists that is trying
to help his issues.

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