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Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
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Interesting... months go by with no helpful responses from Microsoft. And no,
it seems it still isn't fixed in 2000 Pro. In fact, it looks like they gave
up. You say the program lets you mix orientations when creating diagrams; I
can' t even do that. If I change the orientation -- carefully following the
instructions in the Help file and manual -- to change the orientation for a
page, the entire file gets changed.

I'd sure like to hear about a fix or workaround.

David Nason

Colin Young wrote:

> Is there any way in Visio to print a document that has pages in both
> landscape and portrait orientation (I'm using 5, but just checked it out in
> 2000 and it still isn't fixed)? And if there isn't, why does the program
> allow me to mix orientations when creating diagrams, only to tell me that it
> can't print properly when I finally try to print? Are they trying to win an
> award for bad design?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Colin


Bob Buckland ?:-)

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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Hi Dave,

It may be the difference in the way folks think about changing orientation
in Word and Visio and the way that the two programs try to explain
things that are different, yet using the same language :) It took me awhile
to see this in Visio and while I can understand it, I would like to be able
to do it like Word as well <g> but it's similar to Excel. Graham or John
or others may jump in if I've missed something to be able to physically
change the paper setup to do this.

In Word 2000 you could be working on a portrait page, Insert=>Break and
set a new page break and change the orientation of the new page to landscape
and you'd be working with a page that would physically print rotated to landscape.

In Visio 2000 it appears that the size and orientation of the drawing 'page' and
the printed 'page' are separated and what you are selecting is how to scale the
dimensions of each page in your drawing set that are bigger or smaller than the
selected paper size for the drawing (all of its pages).

This may help illustrate ( at least what I'm seeing).

Create a new Drawing, letter size and select a letter size printer and set the
orientation to (o) Portrait in File=>Page Setup=>Printer Setup.

Use Insert=>Page to create Page 2 and then while Page 2 is
selected go to File=>Page Setup=>Page Size (or select 'Page Size' while
in the Insert=>Page dialog) and select (o) Pre-defined Size
and leave the settings for the

[ Standard | v]
[Letter: 8.5 in. x 11in. | v]

settings. At the bottom of the Page Size dialog the

(o) Portrait (o) Landscape
orientation should be available when you choose a selection other than
(o) Same as Printer.

Click (o) landscape (note how the drawing page is now
shown as overlapping the paper size) and then click the [Apply] button.
then[Okay].

Zoom the drawing to 'Page' to see the whole page and draw a rectangle
the same size as the full drawing page and fill it with a solid color (I chose
yellow)

Switch to Page 1, change zoom and also draw a full page rectangle and
fill it with a different solid color (I chose Red)

Now click on the Print Preview Icon (or use File=>Print Preview) and
click on the 'multipage' view icon on the toolbar. Switch back and forth
between viewing page 1 and page 2 and you'll see that one of the
rectangles matches the paper layout and the other is showing that it
will tile across two paper sheets when it prints 'actual size' (hovering the
mouse over parts of the drawing will show where the paper limits will
be, approximately).

While still in Print Preview and with the tiled drawing page selected
click on the [Setup...] Button and in /Print Setup\ change
Print Zoom (all pages) from 100% to the 'Fit to' choice and
choose 1 across by 1 down and click [Apply] and [Okay] and then
look at the print preview pages and now the drawing page that tiled
has been reduced to fit the paper-page.

To have the rotated (yellow) drawing page not be shrunken or tiled but
to print on the paper oriented to match the drawing create a new drawing
and in File=>Page Setup=>Print Setup set the paper to letter size and
(o) Landscape. In the first drawing use Edit=>Copy Drawing while
you're viewing the landscape (yellow) page, then switch to your new
drawing and paste it and check in Print Preview and it should be a fit
for the printed page.

(One thing that can confuse it more <g> is if you're looking at the page
and right click and under View-> switch between view vertical and view Horizontal.
as the View won't necessarily what will print.
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Interesting... months go by with no helpful responses from Microsoft. And no,
it seems it still isn't fixed in 2000 Pro. In fact, it looks like they gave
up. You say the program lets you mix orientations when creating diagrams; I
can' t even do that. If I change the orientation -- carefully following the
instructions in the Help file and manual -- to change the orientation for a
page, the entire file gets changed.

I'd sure like to hear about a fix or workaround.

David Nason>>
--
Hope that helps,

Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office/Word MVP

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